bigg jay Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 4 minutes ago, Noeller said: It's the players/agents who put those bonuses in there at that time.... to force the team to **** or get off the pot, and allow them to move on to another team if they don't get the bonus. This is what they want. Would they really want to be released this late in the off-season though? Teams have already been planning out their FA spending and if they've committed their cap space elsewhere, it lessens where the player can sign & for how much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 2 minutes ago, bigg jay said: Would they really want to be released this late in the off-season though? Teams have already been planning out their FA spending and if they've committed their cap space elsewhere, it lessens where the player can sign & for how much. This was a failure of the agent. Bonuses should be due two weeks prior to the tampering window, at the very least. bigg jay, Sard, blue85gold and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue85gold Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 1 minute ago, bigg jay said: Would they really want to be released this late in the off-season though? Teams have already been planning out their FA spending and if they've committed their cap space elsewhere, it lessens where the player can sign & for how much. If it wasn't for the legal tampering period the timing of release would be right as FA opens. That's probably a good time to get released. So this is only a week late. I'd bet these bonus dates start to coincide with the start of the tampering period. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 (edited) 12 minutes ago, bigg jay said: Would they really want to be released this late in the off-season though? Teams have already been planning out their FA spending and if they've committed their cap space elsewhere, it lessens where the player can sign & for how much. There is months to go before TC. Not that late in the offseason as well. Teams have not committed all their money at this point of the season unless they are fools. Edited February 9 by GCn20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 4 minutes ago, GCn20 said: There is months to go before TC. Not that late in the offseason as well. Teams have not committed all their money at this point of the season unless they are fools. Plus, cfl cap only matters at the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 (edited) 4 minutes ago, 17to85 said: Plus, cfl cap only matters at the end True. If a player is worth picking up a GM will figure it out. I think when we first signed Bighill it was in April or May of the offseason. Edited February 9 by GCn20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigg jay Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 24 minutes ago, blue85gold said: If it wasn't for the legal tampering period the timing of release would be right as FA opens. That's probably a good time to get released. So this is only a week late. I'd bet these bonus dates start to coincide with the start of the tampering period. But the tampering window is there so we can't pretend like it's not. 15 minutes ago, GCn20 said: There is months to go before TC. Not that late in the offseason as well. Teams have not committed all their money at this point of the season unless they are fools. Any offers made during the tampering window are binding so looking around at some teams (hello Saskatchewan), they have committed a significant amount already. I'm not saying teams can't or won't continue to sign guys. Just from a players point of view, it doesn't strike me as ideal to be looking for a dance partner after the music has already started. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 46 minutes ago, bigg jay said: Wonder if Awe's getting a signing bonus or if they'll just put the money towards all the fines he'll rack up this season? I would like to see Baron here, at the right price. Clements is 3 years younger, probably less expensive, and more versatile, pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigg jay Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 1 minute ago, Fatty Liver said: Clements is 3 years younger, probably less expensive, and more versatile, pass. Clements is a LB while Baron is a DT so I'm not getting the comparison? Noeller and rebusrankin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 13 minutes ago, GCn20 said: True. If a player is worth picking up a GM will figure it out. I think when we first signed Bighill it was in April or May of the offseason. Bighill was a special case, he was still engaged in finding work in the NFL when he made the decision to come back to the CFL permanently. I think everyone was shocked when the Bombers signed him, especially Sam Hurl. Just now, bigg jay said: Clements is a LB while Baron is a DT so I'm not getting the comparison? Sorry, I was thinking of Bear Woods, he was woody too. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said: Bighill was a special case, he was still engaged in finding work in the NFL when he made the decision to come back to the CFL permanently. I think everyone was shocked when the Bombers signed him, especially Sam Hurl. For sure. Just saying if a player shakes loose in May that can be a difference maker a good GM will carve out the cash to get him. 12 minutes ago, bigg jay said: But the tampering window is there so we can't pretend like it's not. Any offers made during the tampering window are binding so looking around at some teams (hello Saskatchewan), they have committed a significant amount already. I'm not saying teams can't or won't continue to sign guys. Just from a players point of view, it doesn't strike me as ideal to be looking for a dance partner after the music has already started. No doubt it is not ideal. 7 minutes ago, bigg jay said: Clements is a LB while Baron is a DT so I'm not getting the comparison? Woody Baron would be a nice add, but he commands pretty hefty dollars....or at least he did on his last contract. I can't remember what he was making but I remember being shocked at the amount. Edit: 150k for this season. Pretty expensive for his output. If he wanted to come in here at 120-125k I would hope we would consider it. Edited February 9 by GCn20 Fatty Liver and bigg jay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 8 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said: Bighill was a special case, he was still engaged in finding work in the NFL when he made the decision to come back to the CFL permanently. I think everyone was shocked when the Bombers signed him, especially Sam Hurl. Sorry, I was thinking of Bear Woods, he was woody too. Does Bear Woods even play anymore. Lost track of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue85gold Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 17 minutes ago, bigg jay said: But the tampering window is there so we can't pretend like it's not. Any offers made during the tampering window are binding so looking around at some teams (hello Saskatchewan), they have committed a significant amount already. I'm not saying teams can't or won't continue to sign guys. Just from a players point of view, it doesn't strike me as ideal to be looking for a dance partner after the music has already started. Ya that's why I said it's a week late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigg jay Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 BC cuts another starter. https://3downnation.com/2024/02/09/b-c-lions-release-starting-safety-quincy-mauger/ Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 58 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said: Bighill was a special case, he was still engaged in finding work in the NFL when he made the decision to come back to the CFL permanently. I think everyone was shocked when the Bombers signed him, especially Sam Hurl. Sorry, I was thinking of Bear Woods, he was woody too. Sam Hurl was constantly surprised- mostly on the field. Piggy 1, Fatty Liver and HC85 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 50 minutes ago, GCn20 said: Does Bear Woods even play anymore. Lost track of him. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 53 minutes ago, GCn20 said: Does Bear Woods even play anymore. Lost track of him. He is retired, but it Bears repeating. bearpants and WBBFanWest 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 3 minutes ago, Tracker said: He is retired, but it Bears repeating. Wood you stop with the puns. Piggy 1 and WBBFanWest 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, bigg jay said: Would they really want to be released this late in the off-season though? Teams have already been planning out their FA spending and if they've committed their cap space elsewhere, it lessens where the player can sign & for how much. I can not imagine a world where cfl players want to get cut late and be surprise free agents and lose 50-60k. That’s a big chunk of their earnings. pass on woody baron imo. Same 3t type smallish dt we’ve let walk this and last off season. Sayles is hands down better than him. Save the money and bring in import nose tackles. Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted February 9 Report Share Posted February 9 24 minutes ago, JCon said: Wood you stop with the puns. Is bear woods catholic? Wait... something.... Tracker, wbbfan, JCon and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 3 hours ago, GCn20 said: Does Bear Woods even play anymore. Lost track of him. He hasn't played in 5 or 6 years AT LEAST... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geebrr Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 (edited) 26 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Edited February 10 by Geebrr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 6 hours ago, wbbfan said: I can not imagine a world where cfl players want to get cut late and be surprise free agents and lose 50-60k. That’s a big chunk of their earnings. pass on woody baron imo. Same 3t type smallish dt we’ve let walk this and last off season. Sayles is hands down better than him. Save the money and bring in import nose tackles. Sayles is better and is being compensated well for it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 9 hours ago, bigg jay said: I would like to see Baron here, at the right price. Posters say that here all the time. Just what is the "right price"? You're not a GM nor do you know the financials of the Bombers when it comes to what we have to pay players. Therefore, what you said makes no sense. No offense, but you have no idea what the right price is. None of us do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigg jay Posted February 10 Report Share Posted February 10 4 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Posters say that here all the time. Just what is the "right price"? You're not a GM nor do you know the financials of the Bombers when it comes to what we have to pay players. Therefore, what you said makes no sense. No offense, but you have no idea what the right price is. None of us do. You're reading way too much into that. I said the right price - meaning whatever works for the team. While I would like to see a proven DT like Baron brought in, I doubt it happens as DT is clearly a spot Walters isn't willing to overpay for since we've let one walk year after year (Stove, Sayles & now Walker). Pete Catan's Ghost, BigBlueFanatic and Noeller 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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