iHeart Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Goalie said: Arizona is worse than we are and embarrassed us last game. If this team comes out and craps the bed again against them... time for real change not bandaid solutions or fishing in the dark like they are right now If this team wins tomorrow with Pavelec in net, you'll be eating so much crow you'll be flying Edited January 18, 2017 by iHeart Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 2 hours ago, JCon said: Amazing what happens when editors aren't involved. Back in Winnipeg? Yeah, who knows?! He's is back in town afaik. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 Just now, FrostyWinnipeg said: He's is back in town afaik. Would be nice to get an injury update on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted January 17, 2017 Report Share Posted January 17, 2017 17 minutes ago, iHeart said: If this team wins with Pavelec in net you'll be eating so much crow you'll be flying The winning streak starts now... IC Khari 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 21 minutes ago, kelownabomberfan said: The winning streak starts now... Boasting streak! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IC Khari Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Pavs Back!!! Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 20 minutes ago, IC Khari said: Pavs Back!!! IC Khari 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 2 hours ago, iHeart said: If this team wins tomorrow with Pavelec in net, you'll be eating so much crow you'll be flying I expect them to win. If they don't tho... then what? I mean let's be honest here... Arizona is tanking. It's not like beating Arizona proves anything. The Unknown Poster and HardCoreBlue 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 I also expect Pavs to be on top of his game. So what? This city is so backwards that Pavs will go on a run and everyone will want to re-sign Pavs to a five year deal. His career numbers don't lie. I've already traded him in Nhl 17. Goalie and FrostyWinnipeg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Why would Pavs be on top of his game? To save the job of the coach that sent him to the AHL...? Lost this first game - Maurice is canned... then turn it on... That's the Russian way. Revenge. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 If the Jets actually play better defensively they have a chance but if it's the Jets team who has shown up the last 4 games... they will lose. Pavelec is what he is. Career 907 goalie. Helle this year is 907. Hutch is 894. He's better option than Hutch. But thats not saying much. It's a team game and the goalie will only be as good as the team he plays in front of. I still don't see how he fixes our PP or PK or D zone play or dump and chase O play or lack of discipline or a whole bunch of other issues plaguing this team. The uneducated fan will think... oh we won... it's because pav was in goal... but if we win it's because we were the better team and recently outside of the Calgary game about a week ago... the team has been awful. Maurice has ripped in to them 2 of tge last 3 games calling their play horseshit. If they play like horseshit again... they will lose yet again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Floyd said: Why would Pavs be on top of his game? To save the job of the coach that sent him to the AHL...? Lost this first game - Maurice is canned... then turn it on... That's the Russian way. Revenge. He's a Czech Republic guy tho IC Khari and The Unknown Poster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 13 minutes ago, Goalie said: He's a Czech Republic guy tho Same thing. Ask Trump. bearpants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 18, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 hour ago, Floyd said: Why would Pavs be on top of his game? To save the job of the coach that sent him to the AHL...? Lost this first game - Maurice is canned... then turn it on... That's the Russian way. Revenge. Thought taking the playoffs off was the Russian way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 15 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: Thought taking the playoffs off was the Russian way. Playoffs? We don't need no stinking playoffs?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Blame players, coaches, refs or whom ever you like. This team is a Budget first team and will always be that. The priority is the bottom line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 7 hours ago, DR. CFL said: Blame players, coaches, refs or whom ever you like. This team is a Budget first team and will always be that. The priority is the bottom line. This part I disagree with. And is actually a myth when you look at some of the contracts given out. It might be a budget conscious team but its not a budget team per se. JCon and Goalie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 What I find very interesting is the Jets are projected to be $5M under the cap this year. That still puts them bottom 5 in the league for salary, but a $5M difference in overall salary is about 7% of the cap. As the cap has stayed relatively stagnant in the last few years, while I haven't actually done the analysis, it feels like the gap between the top spenders and low spenders is shrinking. The Unknown Poster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 8 minutes ago, Rich said: What I find very interesting is the Jets are projected to be $5M under the cap this year. That still puts them bottom 5 in the league for salary, but a $5M difference in overall salary is about 7% of the cap. As the cap has stayed relatively stagnant in the last few years, while I haven't actually done the analysis, it feels like the gap between the top spenders and low spenders is shrinking. $5m is one good player. That's Ehlers, Laine's next contract. Thats a solid D man coming in. That's Trouba getting paid on a long term deal. Not like the Jets are scraping the bottom of the barrel. Goalie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 43 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said: $5m is one good player. That's Ehlers, Laine's next contract. Thats a solid D man coming in. That's Trouba getting paid on a long term deal. Not like the Jets are scraping the bottom of the barrel. Yeah, I don't see any indications of the team being constrained by the budget. If Trouba had signed long-term as planned then we would be right up against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 I think a lot of fans and media (especially outside of Winnipeg) got caught up in the idea that Jets fans would have to be happy with a cheap, under performing team. Chipman even said early that they would not be a cap team but he was willing to spend more if the team was a legit contender. But I think the team has been a greater success than they believed originally and is profitable. As long as the team generates a profit every year, then player costs dont matter. They have room to spend more. The stupidest **** I see on social media is people saying the Jets 1.0 left because they sucked and lost fan support and that is a risk here. Its not a risk now. A guy doesnt spend hundred of millions on multiple developments around his NHL team as an anchor without being committed for the long haul. And long haul isnt 20 years. It's multiple generations. A time will come when lack of success impacts attendance (or enthusiasm of fans) and Chipman will know and want an improvement. I dont believe for a second that Chevy is constrained by budget. I think the Jets are very budget conscious in a macro way. Chipman explained last year that they have salary forecasts for years for each player. So they know what they want to spend years and years from now. Other teams gamble. Other teams think in the moment. The Jets think long term. And that can be frustrating to fans who want immediate consequences or immediate reinforcements. But ultimately its probably the right plan. Once the Jets actually become a playoff team consistently, they should be easier to maintain that status for a longer period than teams that try to win now every year. Atomic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 There are thousands of fans on the waiting list for season tickets. Attendance will not be an issue for a long, long time. And we have possibly the best ownership group in Canada. I also don't think Chipman will tolerate much more losing from Chevy. He doesn't need empty seats to take action. If we miss the playoffs this year and the next, Chevy is gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Atomic said: There are thousands of fans on the waiting list for season tickets. Attendance will not be an issue for a long, long time. And we have possibly the best ownership group in Canada. I also don't think Chipman will tolerate much more losing from Chevy. He doesn't need empty seats to take action. If we miss the playoffs this year and the next, Chevy is gone. I agree. Isnt Chevy's deal up after next year? So he needs a new contract too. That will be interesting as to whether he gets another 5 years or something shorter. Playoffs is where owners get rich. its found money. If Jets made the playoffs consistently into the second round, it would be a massive windfall of cash for True North. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Laine skated today so getting closer. Maurice gave no time line. But if I understand correctly this is part of the concussion protocol - every benchmark requires a symptom assessment. So he will skate and if he feels good he will practice, if he feels good he's probably good to go. Couple more games maybe. Atomic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted January 18, 2017 Report Share Posted January 18, 2017 Chevy will get a 3 or 4 year extension. I think the bigger question Is... what will Maurice get and these last few games probably will determine his fate. If they go on a run... who knows but I honestly don't see it. Jets have been consistently inconsistent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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