Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

4 minutes ago, Tracker said:

"It is easier to fool people than convince them they have been fooled"- Mark Twain

“Pretty much the last step”: Legal experts say subpoena shows special counsel closing in on Trump

Special counsel Jack Smith issued a subpoena to former Vice President Mike Pence after months of negotiations in a sign that the investigation into the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol is nearing its "climax," according to legal experts.

Smith, who is overseeing Justice Department probes into former President Donald Trump's Mar-a-Lago documents scandal and the Jan. 6 Capitol riot, requested testimony and documents from Pence related to Trump's failed effort to overturn his election, ABC News and other outlets reported on Thursday.

The subpoena followed months of negotiations between prosecutors and Pence's attorneys, according to the report. The move suggests that the probe is entering a "more advanced stage," ABC News reported, but it's not clear whether Pence may try to use executive privilege claims to fight the subpoena, which could set off a lengthy legal battle.

Former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti predicted that Pence will "testify one way or another"

https://www.salon.com/2023/02/10/pretty-much-the-last-step-legal-experts-say-subpoena-shows-special-counsel-closing-in-on/

 

But, seriously, they're not doing anything. 

Rep. Santos says in interview that Sen. Sinema consoled him after his tense exchange this week with Sen. Romney, but Sinema's office says she never spoke to Santos. https://nbcnews.to/3lpSL87

15 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Rep. Santos says in interview that Sen. Sinema consoled him after his tense exchange this week with Sen. Romney, but Sinema's office says she never spoke to Santos. https://nbcnews.to/3lpSL87

Could never have imagined someone who exhales lies more easily than Donald Trump.

Human trafficking is their new business? Gov. DeSantis’ administration will now be able to relocate migrants elsewhere from any state in the country, not just from Florida. https://nbcnews.to/3YrBXMr

7 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

Could never have imagined someone who exhales lies more easily than Donald Trump.

Santos is a straight up pathological liar. He's completely detached from reality.

2 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:

Santos is a straight up pathological liar. He's completely detached from reality.

So is Trump, but Santos is even "better" at it.

3 hours ago, JCon said:

 

But, seriously, they're not doing anything. 

All sizzle no steak.

Yet another 'last step, something's coming' report.

What evs.

Bluster, bravado, and cowardice all wrapped into one. 

Do your f'ing jobs or shut the hell up.

 

2 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Rep. Santos says in interview that Sen. Sinema consoled him after his tense exchange this week with Sen. Romney, but Sinema's office says she never spoke to Santos. https://nbcnews.to/3lpSL87

Santos handler's crisis management response to this latest fiasco:

'Ahh no, actually it was the Pope. Rep. Santos misspoke. We apologize for the confusion'. 

More DeSantis Lies And Cowardice

Gov. Ron DeSantis wanted guns banned from his re-election, but he also wanted the city of Tampa to take the blame for it, which demonstrates that the Florida governor is a Trump clone.

The Washington Post reported:
The Republican governor’s campaign wanted weapons banned from his victory celebration at the city-run Tampa Convention Center, a city official said in emails obtained by The Washington Post. And the campaign suggested that the city take responsibility for the firearms ban, the official said — not the governor, who has been a vocal supporter of gun rights.

“DeSantis/his campaign will not tell their attendees they are not permitted to carry because of the political optics,” Chase Finch, the convention center’s safety and security manager, said in an Oct. 28 email to other city officials about the request, which was conveyed by the Florida Department of Law Enforcement, a state police agency led by a DeSantis appointee.  DeSantis wanted the city to tell anyone who asked that it was their policy not to allow guns in the building, which was a lie.

Officer took photos of beaten Tyre Nichols 'and sent the photos' to 'a female acquaintance'

In Memphis, five fired police officers — Demetrius Haley, Justin Smith, Desmond Mills Jr., Emmitt Martin III and Tadarrius Bean — are facing second-degree murder charges in connection with the death of Tyre Nichols, who, according to prosecutors, was severely beaten on January 7 and died three days later. Details in the case, which has inspired protests all over the United States, continue to emerge. And according to the Associated Press (AP), newly released documents indicate that when Nichols was pulled out of his car that day, Haley “never explained why he was being stopped.”

AP reports, “The Memphis Police Department blasted Demetrius Haley and four other officers as ‘blatantly unprofessional’ and asked that they be stripped of the ability to work as police for their role in the January 7 beating, according to documents released Tuesday by the Tennessee Peace Officers Standards and Training Commission. They also include revelations that Haley took photographs of Nichols as he lay propped against a police car, then sent the photos to other officers and a female acquaintance.”

 

                                      

Well apparently people are starting to as why the Saudi's gave Kushner and Trump billions of dollars and exactly what did the two give the Saudi's

58 minutes ago, bustamente said:

and exactly what did the two give the Saudi's

What ever they wanted. Let's not forget Kushner was denied security clearance more than once before Donnie dipshit gave it to him anyway. 

 

                                         

“Never seen anything like it”: "Aggressive" Trump special counsel hauls lawyers before grand jury

Two of former President Donald Trump's attorneys have reportedly appeared before a federal grand jury investigating the former president's handling of sensitive government documents that he took to his Mar-a-Lago club and residence after he left office.

Trump attorney Evan Corcoran, who handled the former president's responses to the government over its requests for the return of records, was interviewed before a grand jury, The New York Times reported on Friday. Fellow attorney Christina Bobb, who signed an affidavit affirming that Trump had returned all classified materials in response to a grand jury subpoena in June before the FBI found additional documents marked classified during an August search, also appeared before the grand jury, according to The Wall Street Journal.

Special counsel Jack Smith, who was appointed to oversee the investigation into Trump's handling of classified documents and his involvement in the Jan. 6 assault on the Capitol less than three months ago, is "moving aggressively" in the probe before the 2024 presidential campaign gets underway this summer, according to a recent report by The Times. 
Smith's team is also looking to interview Trump attorney Alina Habba, who is not representing Trump in the Mar-a-Lago case but said in an affidavit in another case that she searched the former president's office and residence in May, according to the report.  Prosecutors are also seeking to question former Trump attorney Alex Cannon, who reportedly advised Trump to cooperate with the government's requests to return the documents.

"I've never seen anything like it," Chuck Rosenberg, a former U.S. attorney and senior FBI official, told the Times. "It's just a whirling dust cloud, and everyone who gets near it gets covered in grime."

Former U.S. attorney Joyce White Vance said the report makes it sound like Smith is "fixing to give some Trump lawyers & aides the option of being codefendants or cooperating witnesses."

                                                                       Becoming very popular in the US:

 

                               

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-haley-republicans-president-1.6747433

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Nikki Haley, the former South Carolina governor and United Nations ambassador, announced her candidacy for president on Tuesday, becoming the first major challenger to former president Donald Trump for the 2024 Republican nomination.

The announcement, delivered in a video, marks an about-face for the ex-Trump cabinet official, who said two years ago that she wouldn't challenge her former boss for the White House in 2024.

But she changed her mind in recent months, citing, among other things, the country's economic troubles and the need for "generational change."

"You should know this about me. I don't put up with bullies. And when you kick back, it hurts them more if you're wearing heels," Haley said. "I'm Nikki Haley and I'm running for president."

Haley, 51, is expected to launch her campaign with an event in Charleston, S.C., on Wednesday.

 

Today's mass shooting, spins wheel Michigan State University

 

                               

from the mouth of someone who is fed up

 

Mike Pence's mother says no way no how can he honour the subpoena, this should be fun when he finds out he has no choice

I wonder how many politicians are wearing their AR 15 pins today

'Evidence of a crime': Feds file sealed motion compelling Donald Trump's lawyer to testify

Prosecutors for Special Counsel Jack Smith, investigating Donald Trump‘s unlawful retention and refusal to return hundreds of documents with classified markings, are trying to compel one of the ex-president’s attorneys, Evan Corcoran, to testify before a grand jury again. They are asking a judge to allow them to invoke the crime-fraud exception, which voids attorney-client privilege.

The move, in the form of a seal motion, suggests they may have evidence of a crime.

1 hour ago, bustamente said:

Mike Pence's mother says no way no how can he honour the subpoena, this should be fun when he finds out he has no choice

Reported in the media today that Pence has lawyered up and will fight the subpoena. Predictably, the Democrats heaped scorn on him for this.

Adam Schiff Hammers Mike Pence Trying To Dodge Testifying About 1/6

Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) called out former vice president Mike Pence for trying to dodge the DOJ and avoid testifying about the 1/6 attack.

Schiff tweeted:

Adam Schiff @RepAdamSchiff

 

Pence is now claiming the Speech and Debate Clause — meant for senators and members — allows him to avoid testifying about Jan 6. Just shows the lengths Pence will go to avoid doing his duty and telling the truth. What a way to launch a presidential campaign.

What Rep. Schiff was referring to is a report in The New York Times that Pence is going to try to argue that his role as president of the Senate gives him speech or debate clause protection:

Mr. Pence is expected to argue that the vice president’s role as the president of the Senate means that he is protected from legal scrutiny of his official duties by the Constitution’s “speech or debate” clause, intended to protect the separation of powers.

Such an approach would be novel and a departure from the more traditional argument that a vice president’s interactions with a president would be subject to executive privilege.

Edited February 15, 20232 yr by Tracker

On 2023-02-10 at 12:22 PM, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Human trafficking is their new business? Gov. DeSantis’ administration will now be able to relocate migrants elsewhere from any state in the country, not just from Florida. https://nbcnews.to/3YrBXMr

Scary sh##t to be honest.

On 2023-02-14 at 5:09 PM, bustamente said:

I wonder how many politicians are wearing their AR 15 pins today

A tremendous amount because they truly believe (read $$$) every mass shooting proves their point that the solution is more guns and less regulation. My right to bear arms, more good guys with guns than bad guys with guns.

That's where we're at.