Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

On 2022-10-24 at 11:20 AM, Tracker said:

Trump Tapes Reveal He's 'Dangerous' And 'A Threat To Democracy,' Bob Woodward Warns

Legendary Watergate journalist Bob Woodward sounded the alarm on former President Donald Trump Sunday, releasing eight hours of interview recordings he says show the ex-president as a serious “threat to democracy.”

Trump was “just the wrong man for the job,” Woodward told host John Dickerson on “CBS Sunday Morning,” referring to Trump’s presidency.
“He’s not just the wrong man for the job,” Woodward added. “He’s dangerous, and he is a threat to democracy — and he’s a threat to the presidency because he doesn’t understand the core obligations that come with that office.”

Woodward used the 20 recorded interviews with Trump for his 2020 book “Rage.” Now he’s releasing the tapes separately in “The Trump Tapes: Bob Woodward’s Twenty Interviews with President Donald Trump.”

“Trump is an unparalleled danger,” Woodward wrote in a Washington Post essay adapted from the new audiobook. “When you listen to him on the range of issues from foreign policy to the virus to racial injustice, it’s clear he did not know what to do. Trump was overwhelmed by the job. He was largely disconnected from the needs and leadership expectations of the public and his absolute self-focus became the presidency."

Bob Woodward, another to add to the growing pile of ‘besides writing a book, why didn’t you do anything about this **** face?’

3 hours ago, JCon said:

Soon every state will be a RED state. Illiterate and poor. 

Just the way the GOP likes 'em.

Fettermen had a real tough debate last night not because Dr. Oz was a better debater or hit home runs with his points of view, but because it's obvious that he has not come all the way back from his stroke and he is struggling but kudos that he is trying his hardest. McCain needs to remember that her father was sick but still carried out his duties. As for this idiot I'm mean come on is being an imbecile a disease.

 

All the criminals are running to the SCOTUS for cover, should be interesting to see if they are for democracy or against it by the way they rule.

Stroke victims often do recover most of their faculties, but for most it takes time for the neural pathways to be rewired. Ms. McCain may be one of the most moderate-appearing GOPers, but she is far from a big fans of democracy. Her voting record puts well to the right of center.

Poached this sentence from an opinion piece by Ryan Coogan on Kanye West:

 . . . we’re currently living in a cultural moment where espousing far-right rhetoric is “just another side to the conversation”.

I think he's being kind by labelling it 'far-right rhetoric'. 

 

 Steve Bannon says Republicans will teach Democrats a lesson 'by bayonet'

White nationalist and twice-convicted felon Steve Bannon told Kash Patel – who served as chief of staff to the acting secretary of defense under former President Donald Trump – that Republicans are going to go after Democrats "with a bayonet" if the GOP wins majorities in the United States House of Representatives and the Senate in the November midterm elections.

Jesus.

WashingtonCNN — 

Paul Pelosi, the husband of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, was attacked with a hammer at the couple’s home in San Francisco by a male assailant early Friday morning, law enforcement sources tell CNN.

Pelosi, 82, is expected to make a full recovery, the Democratic speaker’s office said in a statement.

Drew Hammill, a spokesman for Nancy Pelosi, said the assailant is in custody and a motive is being investigated. The speaker was in Washington at the time of the attack, a spokesperson said.

The Pelosis have been married since 1963 and have five children.

This story is breaking and will be updated.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/28/politics/paul-pelosi-attack/index.html

 

18 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Poached this sentence from an opinion piece by Ryan Coogan on Kanye West:

 . . . we’re currently living in a cultural moment where espousing far-right rhetoric is “just another side to the conversation”.

I think he's being kind by labelling it 'far-right rhetoric'. 

 

Looking at the other extreme, what would be an example of far-left rhetoric?

Burn down capitalism? Defund the Police?

18 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Looking at the other extreme, what would be an example of far-left rhetoric?

Burn down capitalism? Defund the Police?

I believe that the far-left is extreme socialism... everybody help everyone else and bring everybody up... sounds dangerous.

14 minutes ago, Sard said:

I believe that the far-left is extreme socialism... everybody help everyone else and bring everybody up... sounds dangerous.

Scary stuff. Take care of one another.

6 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Scary stuff. Take care of one another.

I believe this type of inflammatory rhetoric can be traced back to a rabble-roused by the name of Yeshua Ben-Yusof, who said outrageous things like "Love your neighbour as yourself" and "whatever you do to the least of these, my children, you do unto me". If He was alive now, He would surely be in prison or killed.

Edited October 28, 20223 yr by Tracker

51 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Scary stuff. Take care of one another.

Won't somebody please think of the shareholders!!!!

 

 

19 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

 

 

Very fine people. 

1 hour ago, Tracker said:

I believe this type of inflammatory rhetoric can be traced back to a rabble-roused by the name of Yeshua Ben-Yusof, who said outrageous things like "Love your neighbour as yourself" and "whatever you do to the least of these, my children, you do unto me". If He was alive now, He would surely be in prison or killed.

Monster.

3 minutes ago, JCon said:

Very fine people. 

Yea but what about Antifa, the black life matters riots???

Oh and I've already done my research on this, Antifa is responsible for this attack to frame the Christ driven MAGA movement.

                                         

2 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Looking at the other extreme, what would be an example of far-left rhetoric?

Whatever Jesus said? (That’s it, waiting for the lightning strike). 

9 minutes ago, Tracker said:

                                         

As an aside, very “interesting” pictures they chose for each person. Although the statement is neutral and a simple fact, void of opinion or slant, the photos seem to suggest a villain and a victim, no?

The subliminal power of the media. 

Pure garbage. 

 

9 minutes ago, JCon said:

Pure garbage. 

 

 

4 hours ago, Wideleft said:

Paul Pelosi, the husband of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, was attacked with a hammer at the couple’s home

this is astounding.

the nazis that almost succeeded in kidnapping wittmer , are being convicted, and sentenced. 

Wonder how far this will go?

really frightening.

didnt read how the nazi got near pelosi, but...

 

This incident supports my thinking in spite of everything that has happened, since Trump,

the people in power, in the States, Biden, Nancy, Schumer, et al,

just have not grasped the seriousness of the situation. They just dont seem to get it, viscerally.

They seem to think that proceeding with polite, orderly hearings, will take care of the problem. making smart ass comments to the press now and then.

it might be beyond their comprehension.

Edited October 28, 20223 yr by Mark F

Apparently the attacker was shouting "Where's Nancy?" when he burst into the home. At this point, it is unarguable that this incident is a direct result of the rhetoric of Fox, Alex Jones, Bannon and their ilk. Beyond sad,

6 hours ago, Wideleft said:

Jesus.

WashingtonCNN — 

Paul Pelosi, the husband of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, was attacked with a hammer at the couple’s home in San Francisco by a male assailant early Friday morning, law enforcement sources tell CNN.

Pelosi, 82, is expected to make a full recovery, the Democratic speaker’s office said in a statement.

Drew Hammill, a spokesman for Nancy Pelosi, said the assailant is in custody and a motive is being investigated. The speaker was in Washington at the time of the attack, a spokesperson said.

The Pelosis have been married since 1963 and have five children.

This story is breaking and will be updated.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/28/politics/paul-pelosi-attack/index.html

 

people on twitter are already comparing this to the Jussie Smollet situation......but CNN is saying that the suspect attacked Pelosi in front of police officers

There will be violence during the mid terms and the media will have a field day trying to explain that this is not what America stands for but they are wrong that's exactly what America stands for now and it's not going to get any better any time soon. Republicans are coming after the Democrats after they take the house and the Democrats are meekly going around with the golly gee everything will be okay attitude. How can any country that says they are civilized let people in tactical gear with guns walk around in public and think they are the greatest country in the world.

1 hour ago, Mark F said:

this is astounding.

the nazis that almost succeeded in kidnapping wittmer , are being convicted, and sentenced. 

Wonder how far this will go?

really frightening.

didnt read how the nazi got near pelosi, but...

 

This incident supports my thinking in spite of everything that has happened, since Trump,

the people in power, in the States, Biden, Nancy, Schumer, et al,

just have not grasped the seriousness of the situation. They just dont seem to get it, viscerally.

They seem to think that proceeding with polite, orderly hearings, will take care of the problem. making smart ass comments to the press now and then.

it might be beyond their comprehension.

I think I would add again that it’s also them wanting to preserve their own legacies (ie I hold myself to the standards needed to best serve the people of the United States and I will have nothing to do with the unbecoming behaviour of these miscreants, I will Twitter shame them to death) and ironically is a completely selfish thing to do because they are just thinking about themselves and how they look no matter the destruction around them and what needs to be done. They think twitter shaming people to persuade them to follow the honor system will work and keep them in good standing for the history books (while making gobs of money as well).