Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

30 minutes ago, Mark F said:

what did that work to per team?  Ray Jauch coached the USFL generals.

more importantly he was my substitute teacher in jr high school for a day or two.

Speedflex may be old enough to remember ray tore his Achilles, playing career over.

oops wrong thread.

There is no "old farts" thread.

1 hour ago, bustamente said:

For a fringe movement Q seems to be everywhere, especially in the Republican party and especially when Republicans says they don't know what Q is

It's seems to be moving away from fringe and moving more and more toward mainstream base for the QOP formerly known as the GOP. Anderson Cooper, Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon had good segments on it last night.

Edited February 4, 20215 yr by HardCoreBlue

23 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said:

His sociopathic narcissism almost singlehandedly destroyed the USFL: https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/13255737/five-things-know-donald-trump-usfl-experience 

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/sep/11/the-day-donald-trumps-narcissism-killed-the-usfl

Comical stuff. And that's been his MO for years, his presidency being absolutely no exception.

 

I have absolutely no doubt that Trump would have sold out his fellow-USFL owners in a New York minute if it would have benefitted him. Should his lawyers be unable to dissuade him from taking the stand, that would be PVR highlight material to be enjoyed again and again.

1 hour ago, Tracker said:

Trump owned a team in the USFL  which sued the NFL for pressuring the TV  networks to not give the USFL coverage. The USFL lawyers had the case in the bag (according to the jurors) until Trump took the stand at his insistence and against the pleas of the lawyers. He came across as so stupid and arrogant that the entire jury found the NFL guilty but awarded the USFL the princely sum of ONE DOLLAR.  The other USFL owners were so angry that none of them chose to appeal the verdict and none ever spoke to Trump or did business with him again. I would think that Trump would not pass up an opportunity to be the center of attention in the belief that he would be so clever and convincing that he would single-handedly convince the whole nation of his righteousness.

Excellent 30 for 30 on this subject its call. Small Potatoes: Who Killed the USFL. 

As many have said before, what ever Trump touches dies

Speaking of the loser, can you get anymore pathetic?

 

Mainstream media should just stop covering all the Republicans that are giving MTG cover, she and her God have decided that they are the enemy, let them go on their own networks to spread the gospel of Q, Democrats need to just ignore the Republicans and start to concentrate on turning legislatures of Red states before it's to late.

18 minutes ago, JCon said:

Speaking of the loser, can you get anymore pathetic?

 

This is real?! Wow. How did this earth not blow up with him in command.

Just now, HardCoreBlue said:

This is real?! Wow. How did this earth not blow up with him in command.

He did everything in his power to do it but he's just too incompetent. Some around here really revere this man-baby. 

I'm surprised that he didn't end with President in Exile, not that wrote a word on that bird pooping letter

17 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Mainstream media should just stop covering all the Republicans that are giving MTG cover, she and her God have decided that they are the enemy, let them go on their own networks to spread the gospel of Q, Democrats need to just ignore the Republicans and start to concentrate on turning legislatures of Red states before it's to late.

The part about saving the news is kinda true, batshit crazy sells today. The news has just become a ratings game. 

22 minutes ago, pigseye said:

The part about saving the news is kinda true, batshit crazy sells today. The news has just become a ratings game. 

Yup, certain right wing commentators found that foaming at the mouth.....was highly profitable.   And still do.

4 minutes ago, do or die said:

Yup, certain right wing commentators found that foaming at the mouth.....was highly profitable.   And still do.

Circus freak shows have always been popular.

1 hour ago, JCon said:

He did everything in his power to do it but he's just too incompetent. Some around here really revere this man-baby. 

It’s absolutely embarrassing how some can glide right over his immense grossness of a human being and it’s tremendous negative impact that it has had with a shrug, a weak acknowledgement that he’s not that great of a guy while defaulting/deflecting to whataboutism.

26 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

It’s absolutely embarrassing how some can glide right over his immense grossness of a human being and it’s tremendous negative impact that it has had with a shrug, a weak acknowledgement that he’s not that great of a guy while defaulting/deflecting to whataboutism.

Not all that surprising, given that Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin have their supporters to this day. And there are those who still revere Steven Harper.

2 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

It’s absolutely embarrassing how some can glide right over his immense grossness of a human being and it’s tremendous negative impact that it has had with a shrug, a weak acknowledgement that he’s not that great of a guy while defaulting/deflecting to whataboutism.

Politicians are soulless ghouls. Power is all that matters to them.

1 hour ago, Tracker said:

Not all that surprising, given that Hitler, Mussolini and Stalin have their supporters to this day. And there are those who still revere Steven Harper.

Lol not quite in the same category as those murders. 

20 minutes ago, pigseye said:

Politicians are soulless ghouls. Power is all that matters to them.

Lol not quite in the same category as those murders. 

Wasn’t only taking about politicians. 

Wow.

 

Amazing. Serious props to Rep. Phillips- that was pretty moving.

7 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

His sociopathic narcissism almost singlehandedly destroyed the USFL: https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/13255737/five-things-know-donald-trump-usfl-experience 

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/sep/11/the-day-donald-trumps-narcissism-killed-the-usfl

Comical stuff. And that's been his MO for years, his presidency being absolutely no exception.

 

Best part of the Guardian article is the last two sentences of this snippet. A delicious middle finger to the grifter .

”And yet, in less than five minutes, USFL joy was replaced by USFL horror, and NFL horror was replaced by NFL joy. After confirming that, yes, the NFL had violated the law, the jury awarded damages of … $1.

Yes, one dollar.

“Actually, $3,” said David Cataneo, who covered the trial for the Boston Herald. “Damages in antitrust laws are tripled.”

Rozelle had the car turn around again and speed to the courthouse. Trump, already there, was sitting alongside John Mara, the son of New York Giants’ owner Wellington Mara. When the words “one dollar” emerged from Leisure’s lips, the younger Mara pulled out a $1 bill from his wallet and handed it to the Generals’ owner. Trump’s sunken expression was worth the price.”

3 hours ago, pigseye said:

Politicians are soulless ghouls. Power is all that matters to them.

Lol not quite in the same category as those murders. 

Its only a matter of degree. Trump and his miscreants are responsible, not only for the deaths at the Capitol, but at least 150,000of the 460,000 COVID deaths where prompt, appropriate action would have saved lives. He exhibits the same psychopathology as the others, with the possible exception of Stalin. BTW; Stalin was so thorough at wiping out doctors (who he considered reactionaries) that he died of pneumonia, which they could have easily treated.

13 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Its only a matter of degree. Trump and his miscreants are responsible, not only for the deaths at the Capitol, but at least 150,000of the 460,000 COVID deaths where prompt, appropriate action would have saved lives. He exhibits the same psychopathology as the others, with the possible exception of Stalin. BTW; Stalin was so thorough at wiping out doctors (who he considered reactionaries) that he died of pneumonia, which they could have easily treated.

I love this circular arguement. Trump is responsible for deaths in the states not the actual state government. Yet in Canada the provincial government is responsible for the deaths and not Trudeau. So why is that the blue states have twice the death rate as red states? How did Trump pull that off?

3 hours ago, pigseye said:

So why is that the blue states have twice the death rate as red states? How did Trump pull that off?

Are you talking about per capita or outright deaths?

8 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Are you talking about per capita or outright deaths?

The only thing that matters, outright deaths. 

12 hours ago, pigseye said:

I love this circular arguement. Trump is responsible for deaths in the states not the actual state government. Yet in Canada the provincial government is responsible for the deaths and not Trudeau. So why is that the blue states have twice the death rate as red states? How did Trump pull that off?

There's the full quote, don't want any cherry picking here.

Care to explain how in Canada the Provinces are blamed for their covid response yet in the USA state governments are not? Just asking, I'd really like to hear an answer to this. 

10 minutes ago, pigseye said:

The only thing that matters, outright deaths

Ahh so the higher population areas that were hit first and are most likely to accurately report data. Gotcha.

7 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Ahh so the higher population areas that were hit first and are most likely to accurately report data. Gotcha.

Major fail 

NY nursing home COVID deaths 50% higher than stated: AG probe (nypost.com)