bustamente Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 You think the Rudy would just keep his mouth shut but he hell bent on digging a bigger hole which in the end Trump will gladly throw him into blue_gold_84 and Bigblue204 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 3 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: This dude gets it. There is no need to extend bipartisanship to those who don't believe in democracy. Golf clap, standing ovation, preach. Wanna-B-Fanboy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 Marjorie Taylor Greene Warned That Freedom Comes With ‘Price of Blood’ in Pre-Election Video -Getty Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) suggested that violence was a means for protecting freedom in a video interview shared days before the 2020 presidential election. “If this generation doesn’t stand up and defend freedom, it’s gone,” Greene said in a live-stream interview on the Pennsylvania Firearms Association’s Facebook page. “And once it’s gone, freedom doesn’t come back by itself. The only way you get your freedoms back is it’s earned with the price of blood.” The video, uncovered by Mother Jones, was a 22-minute conversation between Greene and fringe gun activist Chris Dorr in which she said America would “completely end... as we know it” if Trump and Republicans didn’t win. In recent days, social media posts have emerged in which Greene, a staunch gun advocate, has endorsed the execution of Democrats and said school shootings were fake. She once liked a Facebook post saying House Speaker Nancy Pelosi deserved “a bullet to the head.” Marjorie Taylor Greene Warned That Freedom Comes With ‘Price of Blood’ in Pre-Election Vid (thedailybeast.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, bustamente said: You think the Rudy would just keep his mouth shut but he hell bent on digging a bigger hole which in the end Trump will gladly throw him into Looks like he's taking makeup tips from his pal too! blue_gold_84 and bustamente 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 Not close to over. "What we see most clearly today is the GOP moving quickly to align itself with the instigators of the January 6 insurrection and the coup plotters who laid the groundwork for it. This may seem like hyperbole, but it is not. Kevin McCarthy, who earlier this month was saying President Trump bore responsibility for instigating the assault, is now making his pilgrimage to Mar-a-Lago to meet with the disgraced former President and secure his blessing. " https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-gop-is-rapidly-making-its-way-to-embrace-of-the-insurrection Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Tracker said: Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) suggested that violence was a means for protecting freedom in "the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants." often quoted by American fascists. as long as it's somebody else's blood of course. Tracker and JCon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 Two Women in Capitol Riot Were ‘Looking for Nancy to Shoot Her Friggin’ Brain’: Docs Two Pennsylvania women were arrested on Friday after allegedly storming the Capitol on Jan. 6—and expressing their intent to kill House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Dawn Bancroft and Diana Santos-Smith are facing three charges including knowingly entering or remaining in a restricted building without lawful authority, and violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds. In a criminal complaint, prosecutors allege the pair were seen in a video trying to exit the Capitol after the riots. “We broke into the Capitol…we got inside, we did our part,” Bancroft, who is wearing a MAGA ski-cap, said in the video. “We were looking for Nancy to shoot her in the friggin’ brain but we didn’t find her.” When the FBI questioned Santos-Smith on Jan. 20, she initially said she only attended former Trump’s rally and didn’t physically enter the Capitol. After agents showed her the video of her and Bancroft, Santos-Smith admitted they went inside but didn’t “have a pre-planned agenda” to do so. She added that when she and Bancroft arrived at the Capitol, they heard protesters saying “they’re letting us in,” which she interpreted as being allowed entry. The pair entered through a broken window—which Santos-Smith said she knew they should not have done. Two Women in Capitol Riot Were ‘Looking for Nancy to Shoot Her Friggin’ Brain’: Docs (thedailybeast.com) Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 Six degrees of sedition: Was master trickster Roger Stone behind the Capitol riot? The night before a mob of Donald Trump's diehard supporters laid siege to the U.S. Capitol, longtime Trump confidant and presidential-pardon recipient Roger Stone made his first public appearance in Washington since his trial, giving a pump-up speech at a Freedom Plaza rally organized by a group called Stop the Steal. In a helpful moment of clarity, the emcee for the evening, Stone associate and fellow convicted felon Ali Alexander (formerly Ali Akbar), a driving force behind the events that led to the attack the following afternoon, noted that "It was Roger Stone who coined the term first: Stop the Steal." Stone did more than coin the term. He registered it with the federal government as a political nonprofit more than four years earlier, in 2016, and appears to have a hand in its successor, which was created less than a month before the 2020 election. But while Alexander went on to claim to be the "father of the movement," that too traces to Stone, who had organized not just the 2016 effort, but another one two years later. All of this traces back deep in Republican dirty-trick history, all the way to the "Brooks Brothers Riot" orchestrated by Stone to interfere with the 2000 Miami-Dade County recount and help make George W. Bush president. When Stone, escorted by bodyguards from the Oath Keepers anti-government militia group, delivered the keynote speech at the Freedom Plaza rally on Jan. 5, after showing off his dance moves, in his pinstripe suit and fedora hat, to a hip-hop remix of a song honoring his innocence, he made clear that Alexander had only "revived the Stop the Steal movement." In other words, all of this was, at its root, a Roger Stone production. It appears that Stone bears as much responsibility as anyone — and quite a bit more than most — for the deadly riot that unfolded the next day, though the extent of his influence has not yet come into public focus. Roger Stone created the first Stop the Steal organization in April 2016, raising and spending tens of thousands of dollars for the anticipated mission of defending Trump through the contested Republican primary and later challenging an apparent Hillary Clinton general election win, neither of which proved necessary. That group was shuttered in 2017, but Stone, a Florida resident, reactivated the movement after the 2018 midterms — specifically to protect then-Florida Gov. Rick Scott's narrow victory in a U.S. Senate race over Democratic incumbent Bill Nelson. Stone even got help from Alexander, an itinerant provocateur who came aboard to help recruit for the effort, laying out his vision in a Periscope video, as reported in Right Wing Watch, in which Alexander said he hoped to motivate not just Republicans, but QAnon followers, Democrats and "homeless people in all the adjacent counties" to monitor the vote count. Six degrees of sedition: Was master trickster Roger Stone behind the Capitol riot? | Salon.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) Quote Rep. Jason Crow, D-Colo., who served as an Army Ranger in Afghanistan, said on the day following the raid in a joint interview with fellow veteran Rep. Mike Gallagher, R-Wis., “We both served overseas, we served in combat to meet our enemies outside of the country. That’s something we signed on to do. I don’t think either of us in a million years ever thought that we would be in the situation as members of Congress on the House floor in the United States Capitol of having to be in a situation of potentially having to fight our way out.” Republicans wanted this. Edited January 30, 2021 by Mark F Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Mark F said: Not close to over. "What we see most clearly today is the GOP moving quickly to align itself with the instigators of the January 6 insurrection and the coup plotters who laid the groundwork for it. This may seem like hyperbole, but it is not. Kevin McCarthy, who earlier this month was saying President Trump bore responsibility for instigating the assault, is now making his pilgrimage to Mar-a-Lago to meet with the disgraced former President and secure his blessing. " https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-gop-is-rapidly-making-its-way-to-embrace-of-the-insurrection This makes it both obvious and imperative that the Democrats pursue Trump with all possible and legal vigour and speed. Once Trump is shown up in court and the US Senate as the cowardly racist and would-be tyrant he lusts to become, much of his mystique will vanish But it also follows that the indictment and trial of Trump will absolutely provoke his zealots to violence. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Tracker said: Marjorie Taylor Greene Warned That Freedom Comes With ‘Price of Blood’ in Pre-Election Video -Getty Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-GA) suggested that violence was a means for protecting freedom in a video interview shared days before the 2020 presidential election. “If this generation doesn’t stand up and defend freedom, it’s gone,” Greene said in a live-stream interview on the Pennsylvania Firearms Association’s Facebook page. “And once it’s gone, freedom doesn’t come back by itself. The only way you get your freedoms back is it’s earned with the price of blood.” The video, uncovered by Mother Jones, was a 22-minute conversation between Greene and fringe gun activist Chris Dorr in which she said America would “completely end... as we know it” if Trump and Republicans didn’t win. In recent days, social media posts have emerged in which Greene, a staunch gun advocate, has endorsed the execution of Democrats and said school shootings were fake. She once liked a Facebook post saying House Speaker Nancy Pelosi deserved “a bullet to the head.” Marjorie Taylor Greene Warned That Freedom Comes With ‘Price of Blood’ in Pre-Election Vid (thedailybeast.com) Speaking of MTG... NSFW Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tracker Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 2 hours ago, Mark F said: Republicans wanted this. Absolutely, at least many if them did. A large scale uprising would have justified Trump, or rather have given him an excuse to declare martial law. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 (edited) Lemke charged for sending violent text message "On January 6, 2021, the same day that individuals purporting to protest the 2020 Presidential Election gathered in Washington, D.C. and stormed the Capitol Building, ROBERT LEMKE sent threatening text messages to the brother of the New York City-based Congressman, citing the Congressman’s statements about the results of the 2020 Presidential Election. LEMKE’s text messages, which included a picture of a home in the same neighborhood as the home of the Congressman’s brother, stated: Quote Your brother is putting your entire family at risk with his lies and other words. We are armed and nearby your house. You had better have a word with him. We are not far from his either. Already spoke to [the Congressman’s son] and know where his kids are. . . . your words have consequences. Stop telling lies; Biden did not win, he will not be president. We are not[] white supremacists. Most of us are active/retired law enforcement or military. " https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/california-man-charged-making-threats-directed-against-new-york-city-based-us Edited January 30, 2021 by Mark F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 28 minutes ago, Mark F said: Lemke charged for sending violent text message "On January 6, 2021, the same day that individuals purporting to protest the 2020 Presidential Election gathered in Washington, D.C. and stormed the Capitol Building, ROBERT LEMKE sent threatening text messages to the brother of the New York City-based Congressman, citing the Congressman’s statements about the results of the 2020 Presidential Election. LEMKE’s text messages, which included a picture of a home in the same neighborhood as the home of the Congressman’s brother, stated: https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/california-man-charged-making-threats-directed-against-new-york-city-based-us One would think that would automatically mean arrest for anyone who says these sort of things, but with a lot of cops sympathetic to Qanon, the wheels of justice turn very slowly if at all. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 17 hours ago, Mark F said: Not close to over. "What we see most clearly today is the GOP moving quickly to align itself with the instigators of the January 6 insurrection and the coup plotters who laid the groundwork for it. This may seem like hyperbole, but it is not. Kevin McCarthy, who earlier this month was saying President Trump bore responsibility for instigating the assault, is now making his pilgrimage to Mar-a-Lago to meet with the disgraced former President and secure his blessing. " https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-gop-is-rapidly-making-its-way-to-embrace-of-the-insurrection Take all of this hot mess of criminality thru the courts not congress as we really don’t want the accused being the judges here. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted January 30, 2021 Report Share Posted January 30, 2021 Florida rabbi arrested in connection with deadly US Capitol riot A rabbi in Florida is now the latest person of interest in connection with the deadly U.S. Capitol riots that erupted on Jan. 6 amid the Electoral College certification. According to WFLA-TV, the U.S. Department of Justice has arrested Michael Stepakoff, of Tampa Bay, Fla., on a string of charges for his role in the U.S. Capitol siege. A criminal complaint, filed in the U.S. District Court of Washington D.C., details the incriminating evidence that led to Stepakoff's arrest. Federal authorities have revealed that there is "surveillance video which shows him standing inside the Capitol building during the raid and a Facebook post the FBI says was made by his wife, which states he was inside the building and asks the public for prayers for his safety," according to FOX-13. Florida rabbi arrested in connection with deadly US Capitol riot - Alternet.org Republican accused of threatening AOC after he warns of 'alternative means' to condemn her remarks Horned Viking 'Shaman' Who Stormed Capitol Now Willing To Testify Against Trump The Capitol decked out in a fur hat with horns is now willing to testify against his former hero Donald Trump at the former president’s impeachment trial, according to his lawyer. Jacob Chansley of Arizona, who calls himself the “QAnon Shaman,” feels that he has been “betrayed” by Trump, who failed to pardon him and others who attacked the Capitol, said attorney Al Watkins, The Associated Press reported. Watkins said in a statement Thursday that Chansley is willing to discuss “whether the words of former President Trump were understood by Mr. Chansley to be nothing short of an invitation to go to the Capitol with the president to fight like hell,” the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported. Horned Viking 'Shaman' Who Stormed Capitol Now Willing To Testify Against Trump | HuffPost Canada (huffingtonpost.ca) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanna-B-Fanboy Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 Well... this is terrifying. How in the world did they get to this point? blue_gold_84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 Part of being in today's GOP is being flat out stupid, they hitched their horse to a con man who will never be President again despite what Republican legislators will do in certain states, 3 parties wont work down there and splitting the Republicans will only help the Democrats remain in power for at least another election cycle, as the next few years go by for Trump the only people that will be left in his base with be gun nuts and crazy unstable humanoids. Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 3 minutes ago, bustamente said: Part of being in today's GOP is being flat out stupid, they hitched their horse to a con man who will never be President again despite what Republican legislators will do in certain states, 3 parties wont work down there and splitting the Republicans will only help the Democrats remain in power for at least another election cycle, as the next few years go by for Trump the only people that will be left in his base with be gun nuts and crazy unstable humanoids. This is a probable scenario, but it comes with real risks. If you think the right wingers went nuts over losing the election, both houses and the presidency, what would follow another loss in the mid-terms and the 2024 election is close to outright guerilla civil war. That would fulfill Putin's fondest dreams- a broken and divided America. bustamente 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 Rudy really just needs to go away before they put him away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue4ever Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, wanna-b-fanboy said: Well... this is terrifying. How in the world did they get to this point? Read the hole MTG thread, and it was word for word a copy of any Trump speech, right down to the wall to wall lies, hyperbolic America first and evil socialist rhetoric, and insults and put downs. So we have Trump 2.0, and she sounds just as moronic as him. I agree that somewhere out there is an intelligent fascist who could do real damage to that country if they got into power. Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 Maybe the reason all these lawyers are quitting Trump are because you can't defend the indefensible, and they are looking out for their own careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 15 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said: Read the hole MTG thread, and it was word for word a copy of any Trump speech, right down to the wall to wall lies, hyperbolic America first and evil socialist rhetoric, and insults and put downs. So we have Trump 2.0, and she sounds just as moronic as him. I agree that somewhere out there is an intelligent fascist who could do real damage to that country if they got into power. We already have had a fascist president who was as dumb as a bag of rocks but was a glove-puppet of some people who were smarter than he (not a great feat). There is the Putin scenario- he was installed as a useful fool by powerful men in Russia but was clever enough to outwit, and jail them. I am not sure in the GOP or adherents would fit that description, but many who would try. Trump was undone by his pride and stupidity, but the next one may not be. Top Trump campaign fundraiser played key role in planning the rally that preceded the siege: text messages In the week leading up to the Jan. 6 rally in Washington, D.C., that exploded into an attack on the Capitol, a top Trump campaign fundraiser issued a directive to a woman who had been overseeing planning for the event. “Get the budget and vendors breakdown to me and Justin," Caroline Wren wrote to Cindy Chafian, a self-described “constitutional conservative," in a Dec. 28 text message obtained by ProPublica. Wren was no ordinary event planner. She served as a deputy to Donald Trump Jr.'s girlfriend, Kimberly Guilfoyle, at Trump Victory, a joint presidential fundraising committee during the 2020 campaign. The Justin mentioned in her text was Justin Caporale, a former top aide to first lady Melania Trump, whose production company helped put on the event at the Ellipse. Text messages and an event-planning memo obtained by ProPublica, along with an interview with Chafian, indicate that Wren, a Washington insider with a low public profile, played an extensive role in managing operations for the event. The records show that Wren oversaw logistics, budgeting, funding and messaging for the Jan. 6 rally that featured President Donald Trump. Chafian told ProPublica that Wren and others had pushed her aside as plans intensified, including as a late effort was made to get Trump to speak at the event. On Dec. 29, after receiving the budget, Wren instructed Chafian, via text, to hold off on printing event-related slogans “until we decide what the messaging is and we have no clue on timing because it all depends on the votes that day so we won't know timing for a few more days." The “timing" appears to be a reference to Congress' Jan. 6 vote to certify the election results. Wren's services were enlisted by a major donor to Trump's presidential campaign, according to The Wall Street Journal, which reported Saturday that Julie Jenkins Fancelli, the heiress to Publix Super Markets, committed some $300,000 to fund the Jan. 6 rally. Top Trump campaign fundraiser played key role in planning the rally that preceded the siege: text messages - Alternet.org Five attorneys quit days before impeachment trial and his backers turn on him Former President Donald Trump is apparently having some trouble finding legal representation in his upcoming impeachment trial. All five lawyers, including former federal litigators and Trump's anticipated lead attorneys Butch Bowers and Deborah Barbier, have quit less than two weeks before the trial is scheduled to begin the week of February 8, unnamed sources told CNN. Other attorneys with the good sense to distance themselves from Trump include South Carolina lawyers Johnny Gasser and Greg Harris and Josh Howard, a North Carolina attorney who worked on the Monica Lewinsky investigation during former President Bill Clinton's time in office, CNN reported. "A person familiar with the situation called it a 'mutual" decision,' New York Times correspondent Maggie Haberman tweeted Saturday. "Bowers has been noticeably muted for someone leading a Trump defense, choosing not to talk to most reporters. The person familiar with the situation said there was no chemistry between Bowers and Trump." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted January 31, 2021 Report Share Posted January 31, 2021 GOP Lawmakers Seek Tougher Voting Rules After Record Turnout, Election Losses AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Republican lawmakers in statehouses across the country are moving swiftly to attack some of the voting methods that fueled the highest turnout for a presidential election in 50 years. Although most legislative sessions are just getting underway, the Brennan Center for Justice, a public policy institute, has already tallied more than 100 bills in 28 states meant to restrict voting access. More than a third of those proposals are aimed at limiting mail voting, while other bills seek to strengthen voter ID requirements and registration processes, as well as allow for more aggressive means to remove people from voter rolls. “Unfortunately, we are seeing some politicians who want to manipulate the rules of the game so that some people can participate and some can’t,” said Myrna Pérez, director of the voting rights and elections program at the Brennan Center. GOP Lawmakers Seek Tougher Voting Rules After Record Turnout, Election Losses | HuffPost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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