Floyd Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 51 minutes ago, Atomic said: Why do you hate Spencer Watt so much? I find him electrifying I feel like he's a flash in the pan. Atomic and CodyT 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, TrueBlue said: Because Hamilton didn't want to pay him one. It's his veteran status. He got paid more because of the number of years he played. The Ti Cat want to go younger & cheaper. Edited May 16, 2017 by SpeedFlex27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 37 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: It's his veteran status. He got paid more because of the number of years he played. The Ti Cat want to go younger & cheaper. He got paid more because he was a free agent coming off a relatively big year. DR. CFL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 The risk of signing a vet who has an injury history is you may own him if he gets hurt. Hoping that a quality National is going to get released from another team is not a good plan. National depth is paramount and teams know it. You better hoard, hide or fake injure them to secure depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 3 hours ago, WBBFanWest said: Ha! I'm all amped up by the current talk about Watt Heard he was charged with battery and put in a dry cell. wbbfan and WildPath 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) Witzelsucht (from the German witzeln, meaning to joke or wisecrack, and sucht, meaning addiction or yearning) is a set of rare neurological symptoms characterized by a tendency to make puns, Edited May 16, 2017 by Mark F GCJenks and wbbfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 1 hour ago, DR. CFL said: The risk of signing a vet who has an injury history is you may own him if he gets hurt. Hoping that a quality National is going to get released from another team is not a good plan. National depth is paramount and teams know it. You better hoard, hide or fake injure them to secure depth. In the cfl the vet cut day is soo far back in the season you arent likely to be stuck paying some one hurt and regret it unless its a QB. Hoping for it, no thats a bad plan. Taking it if it comes is fine. Like JFG, remple (iirc) and a few others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 12 minutes ago, Mark F said: Witzelsucht (from the German witzeln, meaning to joke or wisecrack, and sucht, meaning addiction or yearning) is a set of rare neurological symptoms characterized by a tendency to make puns, thats the best thing ive read all day Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, JCon said: He got paid more because he was a free agent coming off a relatively big year. That's the same thing just worded differently, IMO. A rookie always gets paid less than a veteran. The Ti Cats want to go younger & cheaper at the SB position so Watt was released. Edited May 16, 2017 by SpeedFlex27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 (edited) Can Marc Trestman pull Drew Willy off the scrap heap the same way he did Anthony Calvillo? Not a better qb coach to learn the game from as a qb than Trestman. We'll see as the jury is still out on Willy. http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/05/16/willy-ready-for-whatever-comes-with-argos Edited May 17, 2017 by SpeedFlex27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 To argue the other side, it can be said that A.C.'s scrapheap year of 2007 where he threw for over 3600 yards, 17 tds versus 8ints in only 13 games is better than any season Willy has ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) 17 minutes ago, rebusrankin said: To argue the other side, it can be said that A.C.'s scrapheap year of 2007 where he threw for over 3600 yards, 17 tds versus 8ints in only 13 games is better than any season Willy has ever had. I remember AC was ready to pack it in after his years in Hamilton. He had lost all his confidence & credits playing behind Tracy Ham as well as Trestman for making him a better qb. He certainly had a great later career while with the Als. Edited May 17, 2017 by SpeedFlex27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Can Marc Trestman pull Drew Willy off the scrap heap the same way he did Anthony Calvillo? Not a better qb coach to learn the game from as a qb than Trestman. We'll see as the jury is still out on Willy. http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/05/16/willy-ready-for-whatever-comes-with-argos How did he pull ac off the heap? he joined in 07, ac threw for 3600 17-8. in 06 4700/20. The three years before that 5500+ 6k+ 5800+ with 37/34/31. The don in 02 and dave ritchie before him would be far more the guys who pulled him off the heap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) 27 minutes ago, wbbfan said: How did he pull ac off the heap? he joined in 07, ac threw for 3600 17-8. in 06 4700/20. The three years before that 5500+ 6k+ 5800+ with 37/34/31. The don in 02 and dave ritchie before him would be far more the guys who pulled him off the heap. Okay whatever but AC's best years were still with Trestman. His years in Hamilton were losing seasons. He has said on multiple occasions he was ready to quit when he left the Ti Cats until he went to the Als. He went 8-10 (1995), 8-10 (1996) & 2-16 (1997) with the Ti Cats. Calvillo gives a ton of credit to Trestman for designing an offense that really suited his style of play. My point is can Trestman turn Willy's career around? That's the million dollar question, isn't it? Edited May 17, 2017 by SpeedFlex27 TBURGESS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 1 hour ago, wbbfan said: thats the best thing ive read all day An apt occasion for pun-ishment. Mark F and wbbfan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wbbfan Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 58 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: Okay whatever but AC's best years were still with Trestman. His years in Hamilton were losing seasons. He has said on multiple occasions he was ready to quit when he left the Ti Cats until he went to the Als. He went 8-10 (1995), 8-10 (1996) & 2-16 (1997) with the Ti Cats. Calvillo gives a ton of credit to Trestman for designing an offense that really suited his style of play. My point is can Trestman turn Willy's career around? That's the million dollar question, isn't it? except for the 3 years he flirted with 6k before trestman. Yes, he was in bad shape in his career going to MTL. but in that era trestman was in the nfl. he didnt come to the cfl till 2007. what does he have to do with the time when AC first went to the als? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 SpeedFlex27, you seem to be ignoring 7 pretty good years between 2000 and 2006 for AC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, wbbfan said: except for the 3 years he flirted with 6k before trestman. Yes, he was in bad shape in his career going to MTL. but in that era trestman was in the nfl. he didnt come to the cfl till 2007. what does he have to do with the time when AC first went to the als? I don't know. You take a simple quote I said & then make a huge deal about it when the point was about Trestman working with Drew Willy to perhaps make him into a great CFL qb. You win. You got me. I screwed up. I admit that I made a mistake on the AC timeline. Horror of horrors, I effed up. Imagine, what an embarrassment making a mistake like that in front of everyone here like I did. I feel just terrible right now. Edited May 17, 2017 by SpeedFlex27 Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 25 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said: I don't know. You take a simple quote I said & then make a huge deal about it when the point was about Trestman working with Drew Willy to perhaps make him into a great CFL qb. You win. You got me. I screwed up. I admit that I made a mistake on the AC timeline. Horror of horrors, I effed up. Imagine, what an embarrassment making a mistake like that in front of everyone here like I did. I feel just terrible right now. Welcome to my world. Atomic and SpeedFlex27 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 1 minute ago, Floyd said: Welcome to my world. I'm shaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 Just now, SpeedFlex27 said: I'm shaken. Man hugs. bearpants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedFlex27 Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) Edited May 17, 2017 by SpeedFlex27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, wbbfan said: How did he pull ac off the heap? he joined in 07, ac threw for 3600 17-8. in 06 4700/20. The three years before that 5500+ 6k+ 5800+ with 37/34/31. The don in 02 and dave ritchie before him would be far more the guys who pulled him off the heap. Trestman joined the Als in 2008. Jim Popp was HC in 2007. After the 2007 season it was widely reported that AC was considering retiring and many wondered whether he was done because of the pounding he took (Als gave up over 60 sacks that year). Edited May 17, 2017 by Jacquie Bigblue204, Noeller, SpeedFlex27 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 It's common knowledge in the CFL that Trestman extended AC's career by several seasons. All the talk this offseason has been about whether he can do the same for Frito that he did for Miscellaneous Calvillo... SpeedFlex27 and Bigblue204 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holoman Posted May 17, 2017 Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 7 hours ago, Jacquie said: Trestman joined the Als in 2008. Jim Popp was HC in 2007. After the 2007 season it was widely reported that AC was considering retiring and many wondered whether he was done because of the pounding he took (Als gave up over 60 sacks that year). The Marcel effect blue_gold_84, Bigblue204, Fatty Liver and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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