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Around The League Off Season Discussion

Well that loss stung last night. Not happy with the decision to kick the FG but that can be discussed elsewhere :) All in all there was a lot of improvement this year over last year and looking like they are trending upwards. If Walters can pull off another great draft and some more key FAs this offseason I like our chances going into 2017. Who is on the FA watch list and what areas are we in desperate need of fixing?

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    The Bombers really need to kick the Riders ass sideways in their first game in the new park to set the tone for the season and send their fans off on the crazy train.  Nothing else matters.

  • Riders haven't lost yet so their fans feel emboldened to venture out of their own little bubble. Won't have to wait long for them to scurry back into their holes.

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Just now, Noeller said:

FYI: The #CFLDraft Date has been set! ?? May 7, 2017 ??

The draft date is set!!!!  It's March 21 March 21 May 7 March 21 March 21!!!

Was an odd use of emojis by CFL Twitter...I've since deleted. Also of note, May 7 is a Sunday...

10 minutes ago, Mr Dee said:

Whoa, BC pulls off a big one...Swayze Waters

 

Huge signing, can't believe Swayze was available.  No favour from the Argos, they can't even retain the players they let go to the NFL.  Was Leone released to try and land an NFL gig?

1 minute ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

Huge signing, can't believe Swayze was available.  No favour from the Argos, they can't even retain the players they let go to the NFL.  Was Leone released to try and land an NFL gig?

Argos has Lirim, no need for him.

What happens in a situation like the Foucault one? Montreal has his rights, but he's certainly worth WAY more than that. That's not realistic to expect him to play for peanuts.

 

CFLPA?

30 minutes ago, Atomic said:

What a mess in Montreal.  Young, talented, possibly ratio breaking tackle and they can't afford to bring him in.

Montreal already has a ton of $$ tied up in the OL...  LBJ, Blake, Matte...  probably counting on Ruby at RT or looking for cheaper imports

Now trade our 3rd rounder for neg rights to Foucault please!

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3 minutes ago, M.O.A.B. said:

Argos has Lirim, no need for him.

That depends on which Lirim shows up...

6 minutes ago, Mike said:

What happens in a situation like the Foucault one? Montreal has his rights, but he's certainly worth WAY more than that. That's not realistic to expect him to play for peanuts.

 

CFLPA?

I doubt the CFLPA can do much. The offer, although really low IMO, is over the minimum contract.

Foucault could sit out, but that doesn't pay the rent and then he's another year out of football and back in the same situation... His rights are still owned by Montreal. He could sign a 1 year deal to get out from under his Montreal commitment. He could demand a trade and I'm sure a lot of teams would want to make that trade, but there has to be something good to great in it for Montreal, like a first rounder in the draft. (Most likely situation IMO)

15 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

Huge signing, can't believe Swayze was available.  No favour from the Argos, they can't even retain the players they let go to the NFL.  Was Leone released to try and land an NFL gig?

Huge indeed.  It was expected out here though.

12 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

That depends on which Lirim shows up...

He had a good 2016 season. 

5 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:

I doubt the CFLPA can do much. The offer, although really low IMO, is over the minimum contract.

Foucault could sit out, but that doesn't pay the rent and then he's another year out of football and back in the same situation... His rights are still owned by Montreal. He could sign a 1 year deal to get out from under his Montreal commitment. He could demand a trade and I'm sure a lot of teams would want to make that trade, but there has to be something good to great in it for Montreal, like a first rounder in the draft. (Most likely situation IMO)

I'd consider the 6th overall for Foucault but here's the thing: wouldn't that player want more than 80k too?

Montreal might be better off asking for a 2018 first rounder. I'd probably offer that up too, except Foucault being 28 concerns me a little.

10 minutes ago, M.O.A.B. said:

He had a good 2016 season. 

Lirim haters make me laugh. Was 2015 brutal for him? Absolutely. That said his college numbers were solid, as were his figures in 2014. Kickers have down years - Nature of the beast. He also has a higher career field goal percentage than Swayze Waters, who a lot of people are going overboard saying it's a great signing (good, but FAR from great).

24 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

Huge signing, can't believe Swayze was available.  No favour from the Argos, they can't even retain the players they let go to the NFL.  Was Leone released to try and land an NFL gig?

Unless he goes jon ryan i have trouble seeing him stick down there. His directional control / coffin corner needs too much work imop.

28 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Was an odd use of emojis by CFL Twitter...I've since deleted. Also of note, May 7 is a Sunday...

nice, gonna be a good day in bomberville. did they announce the combine days?

22 minutes ago, Mike said:

What happens in a situation like the Foucault one? Montreal has his rights, but he's certainly worth WAY more than that. That's not realistic to expect him to play for peanuts.

 

CFLPA?

Iirc a player can inform the league he is looking for a deal in the cfl and then a clock starts on the team that holds his rights. They have to offer a deal with in 7-10 days, but i dont think there is any thing that says it has to be a reasonable deal. I am by no means an expert in such paper work though. I would think he could hold out and demand a trade to a team willing to pay a reasonable contract to him. Some years back a NI ol i think from sask signed as a FA with sask but then signed days later with mtl. Changed his mind and the cfl forced a trade of his right from sask back to mtl. IIRC it wasnt great value for him at all. 

8 minutes ago, Mike said:

I'd consider the 6th overall for Foucault but here's the thing: wouldn't that player want more than 80k too?

Montreal might be better off asking for a 2018 first rounder. I'd probably offer that up too, except Foucault being 28 concerns me a little.

Id do that in a heart beat. 6th or next years. 28 doesnt worry me too much with the lack of wear and tear he should have. 

2 minutes ago, Mr. Perfect said:

Lirim haters make me laugh. Was 2015 brutal for him? Absolutely. That said his college numbers were solid, as were his figures in 2014. Kickers have down years - Nature of the beast. He also has a higher career field goal percentage than Swayze Waters, who a lot of people are going overboard saying it's a great signing (good, but FAR from great).

Thats a kickers life. Look at how medlock did in the NFL. Hes great people and i wish him the best, when ever he isnt playing us any way.

5 minutes ago, Mike said:

I'd consider the 6th overall for Foucault but here's the thing: wouldn't that player want more than 80k too?

Montreal might be better off asking for a 2018 first rounder. I'd probably offer that up too, except Foucault being 28 concerns me a little.

I'd have zero problems giving up our 6th overall and obviously paying above 80K. His age doesn't worry me much as 3 years in NFL on the Panthers is probably worth more than 3 years in the CFL.

As for the new 6th rounder wanting more than 80K. You bet they would, but they wouldn't have a lot of negotiation power as long as Montreal doesn't need them this year.

Just now, M.O.A.B. said:

I have no problem for 6th rounder for Focault. 

But if Walters can make it Bilukidi for Focault I will be impressed.

that would be toronto-willy esq if focault signs. 

9 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Some years back a NI ol i think from sask signed as a FA with sask but then signed days later with mtl. Changed his mind and the cfl forced a trade of his right from sask back to mtl. IIRC it wasnt great value for him at all. 

Lol.  Scott Flory.  Rider fans just loooove him.

Just now, Atomic said:

Lol.  Scott Flory.  Rider fans just loooove him.

right! thanks i allways forget who it was. Worse then what richard karikari did to us. 87% done...

1 hour ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

Huge signing, can't believe Swayze was available.  No favour from the Argos, they can't even retain the players they let go to the NFL.  Was Leone released to try and land an NFL gig?

Leone was let go so he could sign with the Arizona Cardinals

40 minutes ago, Atomic said:

Lol.  Scott Flory.  Rider fans just loooove him.

Ya,  you can only go to the zoo so many times in Regina hey?

For the record on Flory, he got his panties in a knot once he realized he was playing second fiddle to Andrew Greene at guard and would have to flip flop to the weak side depending on spot of the ball. Makowsky and Greene always lined up on the strong side in Danny Barrett's offense. He refused to come and we traded him back to Montreal for a first round pick. We did good on the deal I would say.

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32 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

right! thanks i allways forget who it was. Worse then what richard karikari did to us. 87% done...

78% actually.....friiiiig. That 2006 FA Day was good (Blue Barrin) and bad (Karikari)....

Karikari, yup.   Whoever the hell he was.....

;)

7 minutes ago, Noeller said:

78% actually.....friiiiig. That 2006 FA Day was good (Blue Barrin) and bad (Karikari)....

oh right 78 my bad haha iirc he didnt last any way >.>

 I like Taman's quote after karikari went back to the Als

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I didn't have a good feeling on this the whole way through," Taman said yesterday. "Last weekend when I was in Tampa, I just felt I was getting used. And then it worked out that I wasn't getting used. Whatever.

pretty sure in the end he was taken for a ride.  god what a horrible gm

http://slam.canoe.com/Slam/Football/CFL/Winnipeg/2006/03/11/1483154-sun.html

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