Booch

I prefer Allen over Hurl too actually...and based from what I have scene is why I feel that way. Also pedigree plays into it, and with reps and learning the Canadian game he can be a Barrin Simpson type in the middle, but with more speed and better cover skillls.
 
I paid a lot of attention to the linebackers when I was there and Hurl didn't particularly impress me. He is in the bottom tier of linebackers in regards to cover skills (not just Canadian but all LB's)
 
Waggoner is much better, has the loose hips to be able to turn and run with a receiver easily from either side which is essential up here and is bigger and faster. Takes better angles and has much better closing and recovery speed.
 
He's a rookie here yes, but he has pro experience and has played in pro style schemes, and is smart and will pick stuff up fast. Our best scenario would be a LB core of Allen or Bass in the middle (whoever wins it outright) with the other guy rotating in..I sure we can DI one as we have done that before.
 
If Adams steps up and shows he can take over for Randall then you flank the MLB with him and a Waggoner/Hurl/Newman rotation. 
 
And truth fully i would like to see us start 7 Canadians, though with the ability if we wanted to go with 8. 
 
3 O-lineman, Westerman, Bucknor/Jones and 2 receivers and an all import LB core.
 
We would have a lot of in game flexibility this way. Can roster all the best Canadian LB's for teams and rotation and if offence is struggling can throw an additional import receiver or go with a two import RB set and change an Import LB with one of the Canadians who could essentially be starting 

I prefer Allen over Hurl too actually...and based from what I have scene is why I feel that way. Also pedigree plays into it, and with reps and learning the Canadian game he can be a Barrin Simpson type in the middle, but with more speed and better cover skillls.
 
I paid a lot of attention to the linebackers when I was there and Hurl didn't particularly impress me. He is in the bottom tier of linebackers in regards to cover skills (not just Canadian but all LB's)
 
Waggoner is much better, has the loose hips to be able to turn and run with a receiver easily from either side which is essential up here and is bigger and faster. Takes better angles and has much better closing and recovery speed.
 
He's a rookie here yes, but he has pro experience and has played in pro style schemes, and is smart and will pick stuff up fast. Our best scenario would be a LB core of Allen or Bass in the middle (whoever wins it outright) with the other guy rotating in..I sure we can DI one as we have done that before.
 
If Adams steps up and shows he can take over for Randall then you flank the MLB with him and a Waggoner/Hurl/Newman rotation. 
 
And truth fully i would like to see us start 7 Canadians, though with the ability if we wanted to go with 8. 
 
3 O-lineman, Westerman, Bucknor/Jones and 2 receivers and an all import LB core.
 
We would have a lot of in game flexibility this way. Can roster all the best Canadian LB's for teams and rotation and if offence is struggling can throw an additional import receiver or go with a two import RB set and change an Import LB with one of the Canadians who could essentially be starting 

I would be happy with that

I would be happy with that

Yea, The Greaves going somewhere rumor had no real substance whatsoever. If anyone was to be traded once all things shook out after camp and we could determine that we did have some roster and ratio flexibility with the O-linemen then truth be told it would probably have been Neufeld on the block...not Greaves.
 
If we have learned anything over the last few years it's Greaves is dependable and not prone to missing time. Also been more than adequate and that's been playing alongside garbage that affected his performance. Need to remember he is a D-line convert and learning as he goes...apprenticing on the fly so to speak.
 
So this year, with the dudes beside him his game should elevate and he will and should hit his potential, and next year if our two new recent pics continue to develop and push him out of starters role and we draft and develop another newbie, or acquire via free agency another younger cheaper canuck, well then he can be trade bait for a new need, as he would be a costly 6th or 7th olineman.

me....rest in some cases is welcomed...and needed and common...no biggie

ONCE AGAIN Buck has no control over the RBs, what a joke he is.
 
Cut Richards and send him back to Sask, we don't need him anyways. Who says he wont just skip every single practice and game the rest of his contract? Obviously the team has no control over ANY of their players, and Walters is happy in his lalaland as long as WOMEN'S SOCCER rules the roost.
 
With Bryant and Picard out the rest of the season (i have inside information), this team will be in shambles. Wylie STILL hasnt shown up at practice, we should be spending his contract money on bleachers for the TC field.
 
We won't be able to start a single canadian on defence due to the money it costs for their shampoo, especially those old Riders (who we should send back with Richards, maybe bring back Taman in the deal? Just spitballing)
 
Oh well, tomorrow's another day...

Spent some time observing various groups today, and this is my take on things,
 
RB's
 
Would nit surprise me in the least that if we roster 2 imports on game day they may be Marshall and Randal...Cotton a close second to Randall
Marshall is the most complete back..see's things well heading into the line and is really really good as a receiver coming out of the backfield. Much better than Grigsby was and takes in in stride, or positions himself to get it in most productive way to immediately accelerate and find seams. Grigsby couldn't do this and often stopped..stumbled or just plain ran into something...Marshall...great vision.
 
Randall...explosive...fast, knows how to let things develop and has ability to hide behind blockers and rip off big gains consistently. Him and Cotton are similar, but Randal has better running style and is who I would go with as part of the one-two running back combo.
 
Receiver, Denmark is just plain and simple a pro and good at everything. Moore if he stays on field which will make things happen and is key to the corps.
Darvin Adams looks good, and seasoned with the Canadian nuancies. And Tuineie I can see as the first option as the other import. He is good..refined and big. He has been coached well in the past and it shows.
 
No thers from the group of imports really has jumped out yet, though did see some glimpses from Childs and Gordon. They may be kept around.
 
Didn't pay much attention to the db's so can't comment too much on that, though i did notice a lot of speed and athleticism from the group.
 
i will comment on the lines and linebackers later as have things to do 

When someone says: "I know more about football than you do", they lose my respect.  Look, there's lots of guys that know more about football than me.  There are lots of guys that know less about football than me too, but some of them know more about one particular aspect.    I've been involved in amateur ball for decades, and have coached at a fairly high level.  I've attended numerous coaching clinics, and have travelled nationally to football events.  I've met and talked at length with top college and professional coaches.  Never has one of them said "I know more about football than you do"   In fact, the smart ones look to learn what they can from you.   I remember one professional American coach, new to Canada, asking me to draw up my favourite "gimmick" play, because a coach that we both knew told him of my passion for the uniqueness of the Canadian game.  It was over beers, and we talked about it for about an hour.   The next day, I got an email from him wanting to discuss it some more.   This guy was a much more experienced coach than me for sure, but he realized that he could learn something from me.
 
For a newbie like Tuscaloosa to come on this site and claim inside knowledge and that every who disagreed with him was a "moron", well, that's not a difference of opinion, that's a troll.

Spent some time observing various groups today, and this is my take on things,
 
RB's
 
Would nit surprise me in the least that if we roster 2 imports on game day they may be Marshall and Randal...Cotton a close second to Randall
Marshall is the most complete back..see's things well heading into the line and is really really good as a receiver coming out of the backfield. Much better than Grigsby was and takes in in stride, or positions himself to get it in most productive way to immediately accelerate and find seams. Grigsby couldn't do this and often stopped..stumbled or just plain ran into something...Marshall...great vision.
 
Randall...explosive...fast, knows how to let things develop and has ability to hide behind blockers and rip off big gains consistently. Him and Cotton are similar, but Randal has better running style and is who I would go with as part of the one-two running back combo.
 
Receiver, Denmark is just plain and simple a pro and good at everything. Moore if he stays on field which will make things happen and is key to the corps.
Darvin Adams looks good, and seasoned with the Canadian nuancies. And Tuineie I can see as the first option as the other import. He is good..refined and big. He has been coached well in the past and it shows.
 
No thers from the group of imports really has jumped out yet, though did see some glimpses from Childs and Gordon. They may be kept around.
 
Didn't pay much attention to the db's so can't comment too much on that, though i did notice a lot of speed and athleticism from the group.
 
i will comment on the lines and linebackers later as have things to do 

Spent some time observing various groups today, and this is my take on things,
 
RB's
 
Would nit surprise me in the least that if we roster 2 imports on game day they may be Marshall and Randal...Cotton a close second to Randall
Marshall is the most complete back..see's things well heading into the line and is really really good as a receiver coming out of the backfield. Much better than Grigsby was and takes in in stride, or positions himself to get it in most productive way to immediately accelerate and find seams. Grigsby couldn't do this and often stopped..stumbled or just plain ran into something...Marshall...great vision.
 
Randall...explosive...fast, knows how to let things develop and has ability to hide behind blockers and rip off big gains consistently. Him and Cotton are similar, but Randal has better running style and is who I would go with as part of the one-two running back combo.
 
Receiver, Denmark is just plain and simple a pro and good at everything. Moore if he stays on field which will make things happen and is key to the corps.
Darvin Adams looks good, and seasoned with the Canadian nuancies. And Tuineie I can see as the first option as the other import. He is good..refined and big. He has been coached well in the past and it shows.
 
No thers from the group of imports really has jumped out yet, though did see some glimpses from Childs and Gordon. They may be kept around.
 
Didn't pay much attention to the db's so can't comment too much on that, though i did notice a lot of speed and athleticism from the group.
 
i will comment on the lines and linebackers later as have things to do 

Spent some time observing various groups today, and this is my take on things,
 
RB's
 
Would nit surprise me in the least that if we roster 2 imports on game day they may be Marshall and Randal...Cotton a close second to Randall
Marshall is the most complete back..see's things well heading into the line and is really really good as a receiver coming out of the backfield. Much better than Grigsby was and takes in in stride, or positions himself to get it in most productive way to immediately accelerate and find seams. Grigsby couldn't do this and often stopped..stumbled or just plain ran into something...Marshall...great vision.
 
Randall...explosive...fast, knows how to let things develop and has ability to hide behind blockers and rip off big gains consistently. Him and Cotton are similar, but Randal has better running style and is who I would go with as part of the one-two running back combo.
 
Receiver, Denmark is just plain and simple a pro and good at everything. Moore if he stays on field which will make things happen and is key to the corps.
Darvin Adams looks good, and seasoned with the Canadian nuancies. And Tuineie I can see as the first option as the other import. He is good..refined and big. He has been coached well in the past and it shows.
 
No thers from the group of imports really has jumped out yet, though did see some glimpses from Childs and Gordon. They may be kept around.
 
Didn't pay much attention to the db's so can't comment too much on that, though i did notice a lot of speed and athleticism from the group.
 
i will comment on the lines and linebackers later as have things to do 

Spent some time observing various groups today, and this is my take on things,
 
RB's
 
Would nit surprise me in the least that if we roster 2 imports on game day they may be Marshall and Randal...Cotton a close second to Randall
Marshall is the most complete back..see's things well heading into the line and is really really good as a receiver coming out of the backfield. Much better than Grigsby was and takes in in stride, or positions himself to get it in most productive way to immediately accelerate and find seams. Grigsby couldn't do this and often stopped..stumbled or just plain ran into something...Marshall...great vision.
 
Randall...explosive...fast, knows how to let things develop and has ability to hide behind blockers and rip off big gains consistently. Him and Cotton are similar, but Randal has better running style and is who I would go with as part of the one-two running back combo.
 
Receiver, Denmark is just plain and simple a pro and good at everything. Moore if he stays on field which will make things happen and is key to the corps.
Darvin Adams looks good, and seasoned with the Canadian nuancies. And Tuineie I can see as the first option as the other import. He is good..refined and big. He has been coached well in the past and it shows.
 
No thers from the group of imports really has jumped out yet, though did see some glimpses from Childs and Gordon. They may be kept around.
 
Didn't pay much attention to the db's so can't comment too much on that, though i did notice a lot of speed and athleticism from the group.
 
i will comment on the lines and linebackers later as have things to do 

Spent some time observing various groups today, and this is my take on things,
 
RB's
 
Would nit surprise me in the least that if we roster 2 imports on game day they may be Marshall and Randal...Cotton a close second to Randall
Marshall is the most complete back..see's things well heading into the line and is really really good as a receiver coming out of the backfield. Much better than Grigsby was and takes in in stride, or positions himself to get it in most productive way to immediately accelerate and find seams. Grigsby couldn't do this and often stopped..stumbled or just plain ran into something...Marshall...great vision.
 
Randall...explosive...fast, knows how to let things develop and has ability to hide behind blockers and rip off big gains consistently. Him and Cotton are similar, but Randal has better running style and is who I would go with as part of the one-two running back combo.
 
Receiver, Denmark is just plain and simple a pro and good at everything. Moore if he stays on field which will make things happen and is key to the corps.
Darvin Adams looks good, and seasoned with the Canadian nuancies. And Tuineie I can see as the first option as the other import. He is good..refined and big. He has been coached well in the past and it shows.
 
No thers from the group of imports really has jumped out yet, though did see some glimpses from Childs and Gordon. They may be kept around.
 
Didn't pay much attention to the db's so can't comment too much on that, though i did notice a lot of speed and athleticism from the group.
 
i will comment on the lines and linebackers later as have things to do 

Spent some time observing various groups today, and this is my take on things,
 
RB's
 
Would nit surprise me in the least that if we roster 2 imports on game day they may be Marshall and Randal...Cotton a close second to Randall
Marshall is the most complete back..see's things well heading into the line and is really really good as a receiver coming out of the backfield. Much better than Grigsby was and takes in in stride, or positions himself to get it in most productive way to immediately accelerate and find seams. Grigsby couldn't do this and often stopped..stumbled or just plain ran into something...Marshall...great vision.
 
Randall...explosive...fast, knows how to let things develop and has ability to hide behind blockers and rip off big gains consistently. Him and Cotton are similar, but Randal has better running style and is who I would go with as part of the one-two running back combo.
 
Receiver, Denmark is just plain and simple a pro and good at everything. Moore if he stays on field which will make things happen and is key to the corps.
Darvin Adams looks good, and seasoned with the Canadian nuancies. And Tuineie I can see as the first option as the other import. He is good..refined and big. He has been coached well in the past and it shows.
 
No thers from the group of imports really has jumped out yet, though did see some glimpses from Childs and Gordon. They may be kept around.
 
Didn't pay much attention to the db's so can't comment too much on that, though i did notice a lot of speed and athleticism from the group.
 
i will comment on the lines and linebackers later as have things to do 

Spent some time observing various groups today, and this is my take on things,
 
RB's
 
Would nit surprise me in the least that if we roster 2 imports on game day they may be Marshall and Randal...Cotton a close second to Randall
Marshall is the most complete back..see's things well heading into the line and is really really good as a receiver coming out of the backfield. Much better than Grigsby was and takes in in stride, or positions himself to get it in most productive way to immediately accelerate and find seams. Grigsby couldn't do this and often stopped..stumbled or just plain ran into something...Marshall...great vision.
 
Randall...explosive...fast, knows how to let things develop and has ability to hide behind blockers and rip off big gains consistently. Him and Cotton are similar, but Randal has better running style and is who I would go with as part of the one-two running back combo.
 
Receiver, Denmark is just plain and simple a pro and good at everything. Moore if he stays on field which will make things happen and is key to the corps.
Darvin Adams looks good, and seasoned with the Canadian nuancies. And Tuineie I can see as the first option as the other import. He is good..refined and big. He has been coached well in the past and it shows.
 
No thers from the group of imports really has jumped out yet, though did see some glimpses from Childs and Gordon. They may be kept around.
 
Didn't pay much attention to the db's so can't comment too much on that, though i did notice a lot of speed and athleticism from the group.
 
i will comment on the lines and linebackers later as have things to do 

Spent some time observing various groups today, and this is my take on things,
 
RB's
 
Would nit surprise me in the least that if we roster 2 imports on game day they may be Marshall and Randal...Cotton a close second to Randall
Marshall is the most complete back..see's things well heading into the line and is really really good as a receiver coming out of the backfield. Much better than Grigsby was and takes in in stride, or positions himself to get it in most productive way to immediately accelerate and find seams. Grigsby couldn't do this and often stopped..stumbled or just plain ran into something...Marshall...great vision.
 
Randall...explosive...fast, knows how to let things develop and has ability to hide behind blockers and rip off big gains consistently. Him and Cotton are similar, but Randal has better running style and is who I would go with as part of the one-two running back combo.
 
Receiver, Denmark is just plain and simple a pro and good at everything. Moore if he stays on field which will make things happen and is key to the corps.
Darvin Adams looks good, and seasoned with the Canadian nuancies. And Tuineie I can see as the first option as the other import. He is good..refined and big. He has been coached well in the past and it shows.
 
No thers from the group of imports really has jumped out yet, though did see some glimpses from Childs and Gordon. They may be kept around.
 
Didn't pay much attention to the db's so can't comment too much on that, though i did notice a lot of speed and athleticism from the group.
 
i will comment on the lines and linebackers later as have things to do 

Spent some time observing various groups today, and this is my take on things,
 
RB's
 
Would nit surprise me in the least that if we roster 2 imports on game day they may be Marshall and Randal...Cotton a close second to Randall
Marshall is the most complete back..see's things well heading into the line and is really really good as a receiver coming out of the backfield. Much better than Grigsby was and takes in in stride, or positions himself to get it in most productive way to immediately accelerate and find seams. Grigsby couldn't do this and often stopped..stumbled or just plain ran into something...Marshall...great vision.
 
Randall...explosive...fast, knows how to let things develop and has ability to hide behind blockers and rip off big gains consistently. Him and Cotton are similar, but Randal has better running style and is who I would go with as part of the one-two running back combo.
 
Receiver, Denmark is just plain and simple a pro and good at everything. Moore if he stays on field which will make things happen and is key to the corps.
Darvin Adams looks good, and seasoned with the Canadian nuancies. And Tuineie I can see as the first option as the other import. He is good..refined and big. He has been coached well in the past and it shows.
 
No thers from the group of imports really has jumped out yet, though did see some glimpses from Childs and Gordon. They may be kept around.
 
Didn't pay much attention to the db's so can't comment too much on that, though i did notice a lot of speed and athleticism from the group.
 
i will comment on the lines and linebackers later as have things to do 

If we don't trade down, what I would think be best course of action is
 
Take Chung at # 2 (if Ottawa takes him which I doubt then Groulx)
 
11 - whoever is there of Durant or Demski (If neither then I would be looking at either SML or Akie) as either or would both be rostered and contributing this year with limited reps and certainly on teams.
 
15 - If Byron A is there grab him, Or Blair Smith, and if neither is there take a flyer on a Varga or Boyko
 
If we can do that, the rest is just gravy
 
Save for the signed in the NFL guys I would think the first three would make the active game day roster and contribute this year 

Who cares about position?  Draft the best player available.  You need to start 7 Canadians, not 7 Canadian offensive linemen.  Drafting by position out of desperation does not work.  Clearly try to bring in players at every spot, but in terms of prioritizing, it just doesn't work.  We could draft an OL in the fourth round who will have a better career than the guy rated highest in the draft by CFL.ca today.

Hurl will not be the MLB and pretty certain isn't even in any consideration as such. Not sure why people keep thinking and saying that

Hurl will not be the MLB and pretty certain isn't even in any consideration as such. Not sure why people keep thinking and saying that

Hurl will not be the MLB and pretty certain isn't even in any consideration as such. Not sure why people keep thinking and saying that

We are not expecting Hurl to be the middle linebacker...not sure why people are so fixated on that

We are not expecting Hurl to be the middle linebacker...not sure why people are so fixated on that