Booch

Too many smiling faces after getting ass handed to you for my liking

I still cant get over the fact when it was 99.9999% obvious the game was done by end of 3rd quarter, why wasnt Strev in getting valuable work....Why keep running your physical RB with a recent shoulder injury in a game that was not gonna be won...risking a set back?...he got enough work to knock any rust off
Why didnt we go for 2 on our TD....If only for the sake of practicing it for when we may need it under live fire...we rarely go for it ever and when we do the odd time....its not generally a success....these are the games you should practice these things
Same with the onside kick....we get it...great...we dont...big deal cause it wouldn't have mattered anyway so may as well get in the practice
Just lame brain dumb coaching calls...

Been nothing wrong with Kyrie Wilson's game...the issue there is dependability...when healthy he one of the top WIL's in the league and he still has great lateral range and tackling ability...and plays in control
T.Jones at times has zero control and just blows himself right out of the play....doesn't have the lateral range....and can't play in space worth ****
Wood's is actually hurt so it's not a conspiracy and he would help, but at who's expense?...nobody's if we just stick with Wallace or Eli at guard...Vpool being in isnt some big net gain for us by any stretch
We really need to get Person and Bailey on the roster for if for anything to see what they bring to the dline....it will be more than what Korn/Thomas bring...and both those guys can play on cover teams for kicks...that alone is a net positive and would give WJ nad Vaughters much need rest so they can actually play unleashed every snap, and we don't waste Adams on the edge....
With WJ, Vaughters...Person, Bailey, Adams, Woods and Lawson, and the use of 6 Canadian on offence (3 oline, BO, 2 Receivers) you only need 1 Canadian on the field at any given time...so take your pick of Lawson and or Kramdi....and you can sub either one out at anytime for a Griffin....DL guy...Ayers (tho pretty sure he now hurt)
No need for both of  Thomas and Korn/Schmeck....either really...When Kelly back dress him and Cobb...Or Kelly and Makonzo if he ever gets out of the tub...
Tell me JY would prefer Thomas/Korn/Lawson/Adams/WJ/VAUGHT/Ayers over WJ/VAUGHT/Person/Bailey/Adams/Woods/Lawson

pretty sure that if we dressed...and used legitimate inside players...Adams and Woods....or who ever and also incorporated another end...and played those said inside guys and rotational end all of Jakes reps....mening hit the PR or injured....would make a world of difference to Vaughters and WJ...Teams can easily neutralize them as it is, plus they bagged out throughout the game.
They turned WJ loose in Grey Cup and we see what he can do....I'm almost certain they do not want him playing in a let loose fashion but more so to keep the qb in pocket and beat our secondary, thibking we have the dawgs in th middle to collapse and rush the passer...and we dont when we use certain sets
You can see when its Lawson or Adams on the nose...or them together the pressure is breaking through and the results are night and day
Then we go sets with Just Jake...Jake and Korn....and we get eaten alive...even when its Jake and Adams....Adams gets penetration still a lot of the time but .....even when double teamed,  but Jake just gets stood up in place neutralized....pushed back...or spun around or to the side as the play goes by and just negates anything the other DT just did
His sole skill is a straight push on some reps  but rarely gets off his block, and when he does has nothing left to finish a play...or chase anyone down...let alone come back from behind l.o.s to make a tackle....how many times tho we see Adams...and Woods last yr do that tho....alot
We either need to change or scheme a bit as we dont have....let me rephrase, choose not to use the guys up fron to make it work....or stick with the scheme and roster and PLAY the guys who can make it work...easily fixable if one puts his bias aside
and further to that....works from a strength from inside out....strong center...strong/dominant nose and multi tech DT....You cooking with fire...we got the wort center in the league, and the worst "collective" group of interior dlineman in the lague bar none....Adams would start anywhere..as would Woods...thats why I said collective..Schmeck..Thomas...Korn...I have a hard time seeing any one of them cracking a roster...let alone getting reps they do here
And then some wonder why our dline seems to get no push/pressure and at times our oline looks like rodeo barrels

and who would blame them...and I can totally see it
 
a few need to go...yup...others need to be in the back seat to fresh talent and become thatdepth...which would make us a way better tem all around...we have a lot of the pieces...we just using the wrong ones...or in wrong order...

I'm sure he and Younger are not saying we want more jake....Gimme some Jake and Korn
I wonder if they are "supplied" with the guys Osh wants and have to make it work....appears to be

I still cant get over the fact when it was 99.9999% obvious the game was done by end of 3rd quarter, why wasnt Strev in getting valuable work....Why keep running your physical RB with a recent shoulder injury in a game that was not gonna be won...risking a set back?...he got enough work to knock any rust off
Why didnt we go for 2 on our TD....If only for the sake of practicing it for when we may need it under live fire...we rarely go for it ever and when we do the odd time....its not generally a success....these are the games you should practice these things
Same with the onside kick....we get it...great...we dont...big deal cause it wouldn't have mattered anyway so may as well get in the practice
Just lame brain dumb coaching calls...

I think some the issues with Schoen are mental and it's related to injury and he a bit gun shy to get wjhalloped...and thats normal coming off a reconstruct...thats why banking on hm as Schoen pre-injury was a dumb decision....What we Paid Mitchell...One of Sterns or White and Thomas would have been more than enough to keep Lawler...and we didnt spend to cap anyway....made no big splash...and even if went over a bit...big fricken deal
 
reason why also that Strev should be getting reps whenever possible...he can run the quick stuff...and is a threat to run from it too....tempo a team to death at times 
he is essentially pointless...and even if we did use that ore...he's not a twitchy explosive guy who can take er to the house from anywhere....if we think thats the best we can do...we need new scouts///etc
eons in football
 
banking on a receiver of all positions coming off ACL is the stupidest place to do that...you can see already he's seeing ghosts and doesn't have that explosiveness after catch....and now that incident coming down from a suicide throw from ZC ...which is what I alluded to could happen way back in camp...thats also in his head now and it will be worse for him mentally...if he back after break, but I pretty sure he wont be...bring him back sure...but as a complimentary peice as he finds his way again....just dumb
And as for suicide passes...ZC almost got Wheatfall killed last week...and that miss in the endzone last night...was an inexcusable miss for a 600k a yr QB but good thing he missed bad cause if he would have went up and got it...likely would have been crumpled again....he's lucky Clercius is a beast as he's set him up multiple times too for utter punishment
 

negated by penalty hahaha

I still cant get over the fact when it was 99.9999% obvious the game was done by end of 3rd quarter, why wasnt Strev in getting valuable work....Why keep running your physical RB with a recent shoulder injury in a game that was not gonna be won...risking a set back?...he got enough work to knock any rust off
Why didnt we go for 2 on our TD....If only for the sake of practicing it for when we may need it under live fire...we rarely go for it ever and when we do the odd time....its not generally a success....these are the games you should practice these things
Same with the onside kick....we get it...great...we dont...big deal cause it wouldn't have mattered anyway so may as well get in the practice
Just lame brain dumb coaching calls...

I'm sure he and Younger are not saying we want more jake....Gimme some Jake and Korn
I wonder if they are "supplied" with the guys Osh wants and have to make it work....appears to be

I wonder what Darrell Patterson says when breaking down the work of our D-line after four games behind office doors.

The positive mid season changes over the last many years seem to be done out of injuries and being forced to try someone new.   What really puzzles me is that the few times that they have put in a new guy who showed promise... they immediately go back to plugging the spot back to the old player (Jake Thomas).    
It shouldn't take a season ending injury to make tweaks on a roster.....

negated by penalty hahaha

and who would blame them...and I can totally see it
 
a few need to go...yup...others need to be in the back seat to fresh talent and become thatdepth...which would make us a way better tem all around...we have a lot of the pieces...we just using the wrong ones...or in wrong order...

pretty sure that if we dressed...and used legitimate inside players...Adams and Woods....or who ever and also incorporated another end...and played those said inside guys and rotational end all of Jakes reps....mening hit the PR or injured....would make a world of difference to Vaughters and WJ...Teams can easily neutralize them as it is, plus they bagged out throughout the game.
They turned WJ loose in Grey Cup and we see what he can do....I'm almost certain they do not want him playing in a let loose fashion but more so to keep the qb in pocket and beat our secondary, thibking we have the dawgs in th middle to collapse and rush the passer...and we dont when we use certain sets
You can see when its Lawson or Adams on the nose...or them together the pressure is breaking through and the results are night and day
Then we go sets with Just Jake...Jake and Korn....and we get eaten alive...even when its Jake and Adams....Adams gets penetration still a lot of the time but .....even when double teamed,  but Jake just gets stood up in place neutralized....pushed back...or spun around or to the side as the play goes by and just negates anything the other DT just did
His sole skill is a straight push on some reps  but rarely gets off his block, and when he does has nothing left to finish a play...or chase anyone down...let alone come back from behind l.o.s to make a tackle....how many times tho we see Adams...and Woods last yr do that tho....alot
We either need to change or scheme a bit as we dont have....let me rephrase, choose not to use the guys up fron to make it work....or stick with the scheme and roster and PLAY the guys who can make it work...easily fixable if one puts his bias aside
and further to that....works from a strength from inside out....strong center...strong/dominant nose and multi tech DT....You cooking with fire...we got the wort center in the league, and the worst "collective" group of interior dlineman in the lague bar none....Adams would start anywhere..as would Woods...thats why I said collective..Schmeck..Thomas...Korn...I have a hard time seeing any one of them cracking a roster...let alone getting reps they do here
And then some wonder why our dline seems to get no push/pressure and at times our oline looks like rodeo barrels

Jake needs to go. There are others as well.

I'm gonna track his average depth of tackle and the depth of his stop vs the depth of anticipated gain. He is a good tackler, but I don't see him jumping in the gap and stopping plays for no gain. 
In each game, we see more reps for him and Kornelson, with no reason for this to transpire whatsoever. If I was lawson or adams I'd be waiting on my chance to hit FA. 

It seems obvious to me that O'Shea is obsessed with filling the roster with linebackers because he is trying to relive his glory days. It's called displacement.

pretty sure that if we dressed...and used legitimate inside players...Adams and Woods....or who ever and also incorporated another end...and played those said inside guys and rotational end all of Jakes reps....mening hit the PR or injured....would make a world of difference to Vaughters and WJ...Teams can easily neutralize them as it is, plus they bagged out throughout the game.
They turned WJ loose in Grey Cup and we see what he can do....I'm almost certain they do not want him playing in a let loose fashion but more so to keep the qb in pocket and beat our secondary, thibking we have the dawgs in th middle to collapse and rush the passer...and we dont when we use certain sets
You can see when its Lawson or Adams on the nose...or them together the pressure is breaking through and the results are night and day
Then we go sets with Just Jake...Jake and Korn....and we get eaten alive...even when its Jake and Adams....Adams gets penetration still a lot of the time but .....even when double teamed,  but Jake just gets stood up in place neutralized....pushed back...or spun around or to the side as the play goes by and just negates anything the other DT just did
His sole skill is a straight push on some reps  but rarely gets off his block, and when he does has nothing left to finish a play...or chase anyone down...let alone come back from behind l.o.s to make a tackle....how many times tho we see Adams...and Woods last yr do that tho....alot
We either need to change or scheme a bit as we dont have....let me rephrase, choose not to use the guys up fron to make it work....or stick with the scheme and roster and PLAY the guys who can make it work...easily fixable if one puts his bias aside
and further to that....works from a strength from inside out....strong center...strong/dominant nose and multi tech DT....You cooking with fire...we got the wort center in the league, and the worst "collective" group of interior dlineman in the lague bar none....Adams would start anywhere..as would Woods...thats why I said collective..Schmeck..Thomas...Korn...I have a hard time seeing any one of them cracking a roster...let alone getting reps they do here
And then some wonder why our dline seems to get no push/pressure and at times our oline looks like rodeo barrels

So true, that has not changed.
 
Not controlling the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball =  be ready to take the L.
One line of scrimmage controlled = we have ourselves a game.
Both lines of scrimmage controlled = high fives all around.

thing is....for last I dont know how many yrs...we show no inclination to change.....Osh says we know the issue and will fix it...backups get zero reps, let alone a chance to grab a spot (even tho they apparently are all starter quality...hence why they here) and we either limp into playoffs with banged up guys....or have nobody after the main 12...13 starters and get beaten down and nobody gets pulled...cause well nobody has earned trust due to lack of play time...and round and round we go....this is loking like round 4....It's still early I agree....but i have zero faith whatsoever that any significant move or coaching shift will occur....none?
 
scheme?...or roster???...workd quite well for most part last yr....me thinks players....especially with many holdovers who wouldnt make a starting unit anywhere else...a couple wouldnt make game day roster

when you have MLB with no coverage skills and quite honestly...doesnt really appear to even know where to drop....that stuff happens....and then you have Kramdi in chase mode as he has no cover skills...recipe for a good gouging and sustained drives

as much as people here like to pump Kramdi ...mainly cause Osh does...so the media follows suit...he's horrible in coverage, and isn not a good tackler at all....if he isnt crashing down in the box or in a run blitz...his one real strength...he is real ...real bad in coverage...and has difficulty running with guys ...hence the getting gouged on the crossers....He's the very definition of a situational guy....and is not a true every down SAM....Not by a long shot and we pay him like he's one of the leagues elite to boot....but like a few other players...mainly certain Canadians , Osh has a real boner for him
Slip Griffin in there....let Allen either earn his chops in Bridges spot, or at safety. and slide Parker into half or corner...or when Kelly back move Kelly to safety ...Griffin stay at sam and figure out that Corner...All Allen did in TC and in pre-season was make plays...time to change it up
Also have J.Jones in the middle.....just that tweek alone and not even expunging Jake would give us way more athleticism through the middle and the flats....Better tackling and a tighter back end
Wilson is fine but he can only do so much and teams are not necessarily targeting his area anyway...it's blatant targeting on ground where Jake lines up...and through the flats in shallow area outside box where Kramdi and jones roam....favoring Bridges/Holm side
Dru did in EDM....zC....unsure

I doubt it is scheme as well. All i know is that we have seen way too many mental errors to be blaming scheme. No DC schemes broken coverages. That's 100% on the personnel and their preparation.