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Honestly can't envision any scenario where the Bombers lose tonight. It is going to be a blowout. Can't wait to kick back with a tall cool Budweiser and watch the Lions get thumped.

It's the same feeling as sitting on a warm toilet seat. It provokes mixed emotions ... still ahead of Sask but, you know, below Redblacks.
 
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/football/cfl/cfl-power-rankings-week-5-1.3171411
 
 

It's the same feeling as sitting on a warm toilet seat. It provokes mixed emotions ... still ahead of Sask but, you know, below Redblacks.
 
http://www.cbc.ca/sports/football/cfl/cfl-power-rankings-week-5-1.3171411
 
 

It'll be interesting to compare Winnipeg vs BC offenses this Thursday. It's no coincidence that the most dynamic offences in the CFL are run by scambler style QBs: Collaros, Mitchell, Lulay, Harris. Guys who can make plays with their feet as well as via the toss. It's exciting to watch. These teams: Calgary, Ham, BC and Argos also all are coached by ex-QBs. Meanwhile in Winnipeg, (where our coaching and management braintrust comes from the D side of the ball) we are plodding along with an offence designed around a pair of 3-step drop pocket passers in Willy and Brohm. Fans are calling for a more dynamic QB such as Robert Marve because our offensive structure, built around a limited style of QB, has basically failed. Now is the time to re-design the offence to accommodate more of a Bo-Levi or Collaros-Lulay type of QB so Marve can play a bit and give the fans some excitement. I say go for it now even if it means abandoning an offensive structure that's better suited for our #1 and #2 QBs. After all, this is the wide-open CFL. Why should we have to wait til next year and the inevitable changes that will come from another losing season, because Bomber brass were too stubborn to switch away from an old-school offence that's designed around a style of QB that's essentially ill-suited for the CFL?

In fairness to Brohm, he did look much more composed for the one game that he was the designated starter last year before he was injured.  With a short week and only one practice session the odds of him improving dramatically for BC are slim.

It's pretty obvious you have an agenda. You're not quite at the point of making stuff up, but whenever Brohm is brought up, you make excuses for his lackluster play and whenever Willy is brought up, not only do you downplay his abilities, you go as far as padding your valid points with a bunch of nonsense just to try and get extra jabs in at the guy.
 
I literally saw you downplay Willy's numbers in the pouring rain and criticize him for not being productive and then when someone pointed out that he was playing in a torrential downpour, you ignored it entirely.
Then the next day, when talking about Brohm's performance in the same game, you let him off the hook because of the weather even though it wasn't even raining when he played.
 
If that's not having an agenda, I don't know what is.
 
On top of that - I keep seeing you mention "exciting" ... is Ricky Ray not exciting? Because that's the mold Drew Willy fits into. Is he Ricky Ray? No, but he's getting there and that's the style of pro QB he is. I feel like you don't like Willy because he doesn't dance around and get you out of your seat. The most exciting thing to me is winning, I don't care how the guy gets there to do it and the truth is, Drew Willy can and will be a winning QB in this league when they give him the best possible chance to succeed (which will basically be when our OC stops making dogshit play calls)

I like how for all intents and purposes, you just eliminated Willy from the equation to push your agenda further ahead despite the fact that he's been equally productive to pretty much every single one of those quarterbacks.
 
Willy is throwing touchdowns at a higher clip than Collaros and Bo Levi, he's throwing interceptions less often than those two AND Harris, he's completing a higher rate of his passes than every one of them but Harris and on top of that, his yardage per attempt is the highest of the bunch.
 
You can keep pushing your agenda all you want, QB talent can succeed in this league in many different ways. As long as the talent is there, the production can be as well. Willy's biggest issue right now is that his play caller blows. But please ... keep telling me more about how Drew Willy is not the "right type of CFL QB"

Good points, I imagine Marcel's time in Mtl. attempting to defend Calvillo has greatly influenced his choice of systems.  Unfortunately with his skill-set Drew Willy has little hope of being anything other than a 3 step drop back QB.

You've been harping on about Willy taking too long to throw forever now and while you're not wrong and I would like to see him speed up his progressions, you ignore the fact that he already has sped up his progressions substantially in the past year. You also feel the need to couple your justified criticism with nonsense like he takes too long between snaps (which often has shared fault and really, you're just saying this because of TWO instances), he can't get into a rhythm (he's completing 75% of his passes, so that indicates he's doing his part just fine), no ability to sustain a drive (got one of the lowest two-and-out rates in the league and has already manufactured 5 8+ play scoring drives in 15 quarters of play, which again is an above average rate) and not having the "6th sense" (which you have no clue about, to be entirely honest ... unless you're in the huddle of course)

Yup -  the 2nd and 3 play where Cotton (only guy in backfield) takes a deep handoff, and runs into 6 guys....

Its not one thing right now- its almost everything. Passing, running, kicking, returning kicks, defence, coaching....

Willy did not look like he could win even before he went down. If Marve isn't better than Brohm, Marve ought to be replaced by jordan Yantz immediately.

I want to see Chris Jones look sadder than Danny M after the Milt Miracle.

Weather has turned a bit better. Only 30% chance of rain now....
Working till 1:30 then heading up with 17to85 and Coorsman. Here's to a first win at Commwealth since Milt's Miracle...

The Offense had 5 two and outs and 2 more three and outs. That's "not barely" as you would put it.  The offense generated little after the first 10 minutes of the game.  Cotton didn't touch the ball much in the second half due to poor gains on his three or four touches.  In fact, Cotton had two gains over 5 yards.  Tough to generate a running game with that kind of production.  Bombers had 27 passes and 17 rushes.  That's the typical ratio for a CFL game.

Surprised no team has gone for the idea of trying for the 2 every time.

You are underestimating the Esks. Given Stampeders injuries, I can see Edmonton finishing first in the West and even with Nichols as QB, Winnipeg will have their hands full. In fact, I'll be surprised if Winnipeg betters the Esks, which makes the blown opportunity against Calgary even more regrettable.

btw Im harping on Willy but dont blame him for the loss as #1 reason
 
#1 Stoddemeyer however its spelled
#2 Hiram
#3 Willy at the end 
#4 OShea

I agree. The tempo of the offence at times has allowed defense to regain their balance. You almost know before the snap if the play is going to be successful just based on the timing of it

That was only the last of a whole series of screwups and not-good-enoughs which started after the first quarter. If it was one or two things, it would be easily fixable, but this edition is lacking in so many areas that this season to get back on track is not likely to be enough.

Yeah
 
 
Great retort. Willy was fine until he threw a game killing interception... or didnt call time out on a drive killing penalty. You either have it in the clutch or you dont. Right now, Willy is not a clutch guy. When the pressure is on he gets worse. That's just fact. Will it improve, God I hope so. It's his 2nd year as a starter but  hes' going to be 29 in November. He's actually past his prime in football years. Or entering the final stages of it.

It wasn't much, but watching Stoudermire in TC at halfback... he wasn't particularly impressive... seems to have more potential at rec...

It was great to watch BC come back and win against Sask. 
And Jeff Tedford was cool - guy obviously loves the game of football.
He was very animated on the sidelines: getting the 13th man involved, heaping praise on Lions players.
Also like how Tedford's brought tempo and urgency to the BC offence.

Yeah I don't know what to do with Hurl. The guy is good enough to fit into rotation.... that's about it. He simply is not a starting MLB IMO. Problem is I don't think he's nearly athletic enough to be effective at WLB either. I think we just need to go all import at linebacker and start Bucknor and Westerman full time.
 
Just roll with 7 Canadians. Unless we can get a guy like Henoc in the middle, its harming us more than helping us to start a canuck like Hurl there.

If Willy plays we're good, if not ... well ...