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11 minutes ago, BigBlueFanatic said:
I dunno, Hecht holding out his hands and shrugging could actually be a very diplomatic way of pointing fingers at no one in particular, and everyone at the same time. Even a shoot-from-the-hip guy like Hecht isn’t going to stick his chin out and go, “you know the f$cken stupid blitzes coach Hall calls just hang us out to dry over and over”.
Yeah you are probably 100% on that tbh...and I suppose it isn't realistic to expect any player to call out anyone for the failings we continue to experience...but damn it I'd sure like MOS to provide some perspective or take some responsibility.
11 minutes ago, BigBlueFanatic said:In some ways Deiter Fan, I agree that yes the progress isn’t as good as we fans would like it to be. The shortcomings of the coordinators’ philosophies are still there, while Kyle Walters has built a roster that went from just being happy to be there, to the kind team that makes us argue about why they aren’t 11-2 or 12-1.
This is really the part that sticks in so many craws...definitely mine. We finally have the talent yet continue to experience the same troubling issues.
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1 hour ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:
O'Shea admits to instructing LaPo to run the ball to run the clock out on the last drive so it's not all on LaPo.
No, just 25 out of 30 min of the offensive play calling in the 2nd half...unless O'Shea had more involvement than that.
Admittedly I don't pay attention to other coaches post game interviews but O'Shea rarely tells us anything we couldn't have determined for ourselves by watching the game.
"Another drive, a few more points in the 2nd half and a stop..."
"Pretty good command of the game early but we didn't play the 2nd half like that"
"We didn't execute well enough to stop them"
"There were some execution issues in that last minute"
Duhhh.
The only hint of assigning blame or taking responsibility may have been when he said, "As coaches we have to look at what we called and what positions we put guys in...be hard with the grading and make sure we're getting better."
Surely this has been done numerous times over the course of the last few years yet doesn't seem to be having the desired effect.
As a fan I want to know just how much influence he's having on play calling. If LaPo and Hall are just following a cautious style being determined by him then maybe it's him that needs to get his s*it together...or go. If it's all being determined by the co-ordinators then they need to get it together...or go.
The fans that have been supporting this championship-less team for 3 decades have a right to know at whom to direct their ire. We surely deserve more then empty platitudes and cliches about needing to "learn from this and improve".
Seeing something like this from Hecht doesn't fill me with a lot of confidence
“I wish I knew why. This is the fourth time now we’ve been in a similar situation and three of them we ended up on the wrong side of it and on one we managed to hold on. I don’t know what’s going on and if I did , if anybody did, I guess we would have fixed it before the Labour Day game.
“Whether it’s self-scouting or guys self-assessing their own will power or maybe coaches assessing schematics or us as players having a higher sense of awareness for situational football… if you’ve got an idea I’d love to hear it, because four in a row is an ugly habit now so we’ve got to figure out what the hell is going on.”
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1 hour ago, Goalie said:
Im not blaming it on the refs or eye in the sky letting Adams try to injure a guy.. The point is.. Refs did **** up.. So did our players.. Hell our kicker missed a convert and FG. Theres more than 1 person to blame.
Im just saying Adams trying to legit injure someone and not getting ejected for it is a problem. Its actually the biggest problem. Imagine he connected hard and bighill got knocked out? Ya the D sucked.. Ya OC DC are 2 conservative but a guy legit tried to injure a guy and theres barely a peep from anyone about it.
Confirmation from Biggy, that Adams didn't just swing the helmet...he actually hit him with it
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6 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
Where did you grow up & where do you live now?
Grew up around Brandon. Live out by Riding Mt. now.
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19 minutes ago, NorthernSkunk said:
It was weird ending to the game for me.. the wife was totally into the game, enjoying and understanding it all. Enjoying the Bombers great start to the game....and then as the Bombers collapsed she was swearing at the Bombers, calling players names when they we're screwing up...... it brought a tear to my eye seeing her getting back to her old self..... we are just going to continue to believe this is the year.
It really is a magical experience when you can introduce someone to the heartbreak that is being a Bomber fan, eh? Nothing like some company for that misery.
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1 minute ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
Yeah, jack has been dead for 20 years now so it's not like a lot of fans would know.
I well remember Jack but was clueless on the reference. Never really listened to games on the radio. Reception wasn't always guaranteed where I was so I listened to Whitman call the games on the tube. We used to rag on him as kids for his play calling but I'd trade a bus full of Rod Blacks for him now. He was exceptionally insufferable yesterday.
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5 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
I'll let Noeller answer your broadcast question. As far as HH goes, it stands for Happy Honker. Back in the 70's & 80's on CJOB, Jack Wells would have an unsung hero award. Not for the guy who was the best Bomber on the field or for someone who scored the winning touchdown for the Bombers. It was for a player who worked hard all game long or did something special as a ST player. Someone on the team who normally isn't recognized but stood out in Wells' mind. He called it the Happy Honker Award & he asked fans coming home from the games at Canad Inns Stadium to honk their horns if they agreed with him. They always did.
Glad I asked. I never would have sorted that one out on my own.
Thanks.
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5 hours ago, Noeller said:
Essentially, to help broadcasters get better, I listen to their work with them and point out things they did well, and things they can improve upon. It's called airchecking... Just one small part of my job.
Impressive. I couldn't get my announcers to implement critiques when it was free let alone be paid for it. Well done. Are you a program director somewhere?
Btw...could someone tell me what "HH" stands for?
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6 hours ago, Noeller said:
someone who dissects radio broadcasts for a living
What does this mean, exactly?
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14 minutes ago, Geebrr said:
**** this best record in the West
Fuucking morons
I totally get people feeling dejected and pessimistic after losses like this especially when they are not isolated instances...and I totally get people choosing to remain positive even after losses like this regardless how often they occur.
What I will never get is people seeming to taking negative comments directed at the team personally and lashing out at commenters.
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10 minutes ago, AKAChip said:
This is pure speculation and not based on anything other than gut feeling but as far as Lapo’s playcalling with a lead goes, I always attributed it to him not wanting to give too much away or “waste” good plays when in his mind the game is well at hand. Probably wrong, but it’s where my mind has always wandered to.
Perhaps...but it's not like he would be giving the playbook away by continuing with what has already been succeeding. He didn't need to flip to the back of the playbook in the second half. He just needed to continue with what was already proving successful.
Having said that...maybe these opposing DCs are figuring him out after 2 quarters and he's unable/unwilling to counter punch.
Pffft...I don't know anymore...honestly...sigh...
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2 minutes ago, Goalie said:
Well when u have 2 veteran coordinators who have a history of doing this.. Its tough to change.
I think theres 2 many ppl here who always want to blame anyone but the players tho.. And.. Just like Against SASK at the LDC... It was missed tackles and blown assigments. The O? Their main issue was the Als were on the field all 4th quarter.
Listen.. I get it.. Blame the guys not missing tackles or blowing assignments.. But there's a point here where u gotta remember the OC DC OSH (who u can hear coaching players up all game long) aren't on the field playing.
The players ****** up. They **** the bed. It happens. Its sports.
Als arent a terrible team.
I hear ya...honestly...but how do we account for blistering first halves followed by bed shi**ing second halves? It's the same players. Surely they don't forget how to play after taking a 15min break. But we can all see a marked difference in play calling.
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19 minutes ago, Carlos Harper said:
Why the free pass for teflon Mike O'Shea?
Every year after the season is over he keeps saying he will be more involved with the defense.
Honestly this is what I'm beginning to come back to over and over again recently. In any organization the employees take their cues from management. These are professional co-ordinators...surely they could adjust their patterns if they were encouraged/instructed to by management. If they're not changing then either they are incapable or management doesn't want it/doesn't recognize the need.
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14 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
Yet there they were sitting side by side in the coaches booth all game. Bet that was a quick conversation.
Rod Black - "Bombers have this well in hand"
PLOP - "Hold my beer"
Hall - "Nah...hold MY beer"
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6 minutes ago, Floyd said:
the D has won us games but what does it really matter if they can't stop anything when it really counts? Hall never closes out a first half and never shuts down a team in the 4th Q... this has been with a variety of personnel
Same applies to Lapo... they are a terrible combo... only worse combo was Etch and Hall...
This. It's one thing to have an OC that plays conservative with a lead if you have a DC that plays aggressive regardless the score...or vice versa...but to have them both play with the same "safe" attitude is just a recipe for disaster.
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6 minutes ago, AKAChip said:
Again, while it was a horrible defensive effort today, the defence deserves some rope for how well they’ve played for much of the season. Even if you put this loss exclusively on them (which is fair enough), they were the sole reason for at least three wins this season so it’s hard to be too upset.
The talent is definitely there. I don't think that's what concerns most people.
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This team has a "coast"/"play it safe" with a lead mentality. Both co-ordinators suffer from it. Makes me wonder if the problem isn't O'Shea. He's the leader of this team. If both co-ordinators suffer from the same affliction it's either a big coincidence (which is certainly a possibility) or they are getting their attitudes from the top.
Am I out to lunch? Do we just happen to have 2 of the most gutless co-ordinators in the league?
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3 hours ago, Mark F said:
How can Kilgore be in the CFL?
How can Lawrence still be in the league? He's going to break someone's neck one of these days.
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10 hours ago, Bigblue204 said:
I'd prefer guys who want to win and not just get stats. But that's just me....
Of course...but the reality is professional athletes want both. Sure winning is great but it's not as great if you virtually played no part in the victory. Any athlete that dedicates a major part of their life to compete wants to be the best and being the best means personal performance.
Would any of us really want players on our team that didn't want to be the best? Would any of us feel as satisfied/accomplished winning a championship we played little part in helping to achieve?
A player's career is pretty short. Not many years to make your mark. Expecting players to not care about their personal legacy to something to which they have dedicated their life is not reasonable. There's a difference between being a team-first guy and not caring if, or how, you perform personally.
I don't think there'd even be professional athletes if there wasn't pride in personal accomplishments.
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On 2019-09-09 at 12:45 PM, 17to85 said:
The big worry is the coordinators and if they're going to pull a boner like they are known for time to time. The passivity is a problem in a lot of the losses we suffer.
No expert by any means but I have a tremendous amount of trepidation over Hall's ability to scheme against a great passer like BLM with good receivers. Granted we haven't been the victims of the dreaded explosion play like we were last year but he still makes me nervous.
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3 hours ago, Booch said:
...sometimes those situations with him he takes off and they turn into plays of 10 yards or more...
Sometimes he picks up 18 yards on a QB sneak. Tough to game plan for that kind of ability.
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3 hours ago, JCon said:
I'm sure Gainey was convinced there was no PI. Fair enough but why was he concerned with the Bombers wasting their PI so late in a blowout?
My impression as I watched it was Gainey was congratulating us for trying to get a penalty called on a dive. Essentially suggesting we were classless. Ironic, don'tcha think?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but...
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