Sard

He literally did the exact same thing on two other catches. I'm shocked it didn't get challenged even once.

Many people mentioned this already... but if they're not gonna call an obvious offensive PI like on that Duke Williams touchdown... then there might as well be no more defense in the CFL...

Personally, I'd have Mike Reilly at number one, ahead of BLM... I think Bo is fantastic and would love him on my team... but I think Reilly has a better arm, more mobile (though that is starting to decrease with age/injuries), better improviser and is more likely to "carry a team on his back" so to speak... just my opinion...
I'd also have Harris ahead of Messam... Harris is the better all-around back...

Two for two
2 games played, 2 reviews gone bad
C’mon man
What we're approaching is the point where the Command Centre (C’mon Centre) is becoming irrelevant.
Seriously.
What can we expect from here?
There are 79 games left in the schedule. How many command centre reviews?
How many will be bad?
So, what's the point?
Do we have to have a review on the reviews?
Let me put this straight out there. It's not the refs that are screwing up. They're making the calls they see….right or wrong. Percentages.
The Command Centre don't have luxury of percentages.  They must get these reviews right.
They are failing.
C’mon man

I don't know than every league is bush league. Did we all not complain about replays outcomes in NHL playoffs. NFL the same every weekend some is complaining about a review.

I know a good way for a new comissioner to put his stamp on league and re establish trust with fans and coaches. It starts here

Now to be clear, you're talking about the fumble in the 4th quarter right?  I absolutely agree that they got it wrong, and it didn't even look close on the replay.
I could see why the refs on the field got it wrong because it was very close, but the replay showed it clearly.

I just don't get how TSN could freeze frame it clearly showing his leg was not down and the ball was out... yet command center still not get it right?  
It was crystal clear...

Only team in the CFL that I really dislike is Stampeders.
Love seeing BLM lose.
interesting to see how harris does this year. Not sure he's all that great.

Sorry.  The ball is touching him, but he does not have possession.  Touching the ball and having possession is not the same thing.

yes, it has. as soon as its "loose" its not in possession anymore.  as you see, it spins out of his control right before the plane is broken...
 

According to the rule book a touchdown is:
and possession is defined as:
I don't believe there is an element of complete possession, either the player has possession or he doesn't. She can't be a little bit pregnant...
 
The ball turns sideways before it crosses the plane of the goal line. To me, that would indicate that the ball is not firmly held.
 
 

Reffing on the field is a hard, thankless task. Game speed with professional athletes. Mistakes will be made. 
But sitting in a booth will a tv monitor, slow motion, camera angles, pause, rewind, zoom?
They continue to get things wrong. That's just incompetence, plain and simple.  No excuse. 
The ball was out before he crossed the line. How difficult is that to see? 

I recall that the refs did a lot to help ruin quite a few games last season.
long breaks to discuss something,  a lot of missed calls, and a lot of flags for nothing.
Like somebody posted, D lineman one millimetre over the line gets a flag, while receiver repeatedly offside gets nothing.
Worst of all for me, was ignoring head shots and late hits, specially on Quarterbacks. Sometimes, while standing right there, looking directly at the play.
League seems to be unable to get this part right. Given the record of the guy that blew the touchdown call last night , (3downnation article) and he's still there.... makes you wonder.

http://globalnews.ca/video/3532893/highlights-winnipeg-blue-bombers-38-38-edmonton-eskimos
Global comes through again with the nice highlights package.

I agree that Thomas got held, although that's the type of hold you're always going to see guys get away with. I do not agree that Hurl got boxed out because of a slow reaction time though, I'd say he got boxed out because Thomas got destroyed by the guard so easily that he was washed into the second level almost immediately. Thomas is backed into Hurl before the back even hits the line of scrimmage. Hurl is on the wrong side of Thomas because he read the play correctly, but the back adjusted based on the huge hole his blocker created for him.

I tend to agree with you most of the time.
As far as I know none of the posters here have any experience as a Linebacking scout or CFL defensive coach. I'm sure the team watches video and can assess where plays go wrong. After a couple bad games COLLECTIVELY by the Bombers I know everyone started chasing Hurl out with pitch forks, take a step back and just think for a second that maybe Hurl was doing his job and the guys around him were in the wrong spots.
Not saying I know anything about the position or the situation but i am willing to bet MOS knows a little more than we do.

agree 100% he is a capable MLB but he isn't an all-star or world beater..  IF we have a dominant front 4 then having an average MLB who can stop the RB if he gets thru or can cover a crossing route, we good.   Its not like hes an absolute slouch..
 
 

and I honestly don't think Hurl is *THAT* bad....he's adequate, but not a superstar Barrin Simpson-type....which is find, *IF* you have a dynamite Front 4. I'm not ready to say they've fixed their problems...not until I see it myself.....but it sure seems like they're trying.

for the role expected of the MLB in our defense, why is that so crazy to you?  We have been trying to find a dominant D-line (which is the reason why our LB core can be less then spectacular.   People get so hung up on preconceived notions around here.   MLB doesn't NEED to be a stud. they can be a game manager just like a game manager QB..  Hes got the smarts to make sure everyone is where they need to be and hes got the skills to make the tackles when they need to be.  Hes also very much a systems guy so when hes assigned a gap, he sticks to it until the very bitter end and thats why he gets caught "out of position" he usually is in his position but then has to cover for either a blown gap by the D-line or by the WIL. 
 
Hes far from a superstar but hes definitely solid and dependable and more then capable of the handling the mental side of things.

Knox is still on the roster,it's not written in stone that Hurl will start. Perhaps we should wait and see if Hurl starts and how Hurl plays before we say all is lost and woe is me??

Penalties set up 21 Esks points.....this cannot continue.

For all the flags they threw last night how they didn't throw one when (Lankford?) got popped out of bounds on a return was beyond me.  It was pretty damned obvious, official  right there .. and the entire sideline reacted to it.
As a general comment, I hate how much the CFL errs on the side of the offence when it comes to PI calls .. more than a few instances last night where the refs threw flags (against both teams) where I thought to myself, "Really?" Let defenders play for Christ sake.

Westerman roughing the passer was a joke, he was getting held blatantly with no call but then they throw the flag on the hit.