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That would require the cfl to actually market the league and that is something they refuse to do. Basically the cfl is Winnipeg. We are a bunch of small little cities combined into one. People in st Boniface aren’t the same as people in fort Gary. It’s up to fort gary to promote itself. Just like in the cfl it’s up to wade and crew to promote the bombers, there’s nothing they can do to help Toronto or Edmonton. It’s a crazy cycle. CFL needs to do more. They basically do minimum

Would we not want to market the poop out of this especially geared at the 18 year old - 45 year old NFL followers? My 21 year old son who played and loves football quickly got drawn toward the NFL with the Birds being his favorite team. What am I missing here? Losing cause, it won't work, no market, what?

Yeah the quality is very comparable....The top 10..15 percent of the NFL roster player is elite and just the best of best...after that the quality of player os comparable and in many case inferior to top CFL players....but the politics of the NFL play a big role in that

I've seen a bunch of players and coaches in the NFL say that the talent gap between the NFL and the CFL is not huge. We don't have the top-tier outliers, and don't keep them when we find them, but average imp starter to starter it is way closer than people realize. The consistency of players, coaches, and systems here is too much for the UFL to overcome. Even though we see a lot of turn over with in the league each year, its still a lot of guys staying in the league and with similar systems. The top tier in the UFL is very good. The problem is that below that, it drops off a massive cliff.

I think a lot of CFL fans don't realize that the CFL is viewed as league with a very high level of play by the NFL. It's a league where guys who have slipped through the cracks can get a legit 2nd chance. The UFL just isn't at that level of play because they are usually a rag tag bunch of whoever will show up so it's just really ugly football.

Yep, and if they aren't going to play him, or develop him while on the bench, he can bail. That is the hidden story behind all the fledgling leagues—Guys living in cars, surviving on a tub of PB and a loaf of bread. When you pull that rug out from under them, they don't have any fail-safes to catch them. A lot of guys in indy ball living the same life. In the past, the minor leagues had them too. Though it's better now. At the end of the day, the NFL understands that they don't have much of a clue what separates booms from busts or how to develop talent reliably. So they bury it down and rely on the sheer number of kids flowing into the NCAA to supply them. Thats why you don't see scouts/GMs fired for awful bust picks. Some teams have some positions figured out, within the constraints of their system. But none of them have QB or OT figured out like that.

Its more political than anything...Also think they spend these big bucks but they actually penny pinchers and wont invest much money into "possible development" or "possible potential" They see early, and fast if a player is just not worth the money to develop and would rather someone else do it for them..be it a different team or revisit a guy that came to Canada a few yrs down the road

All of that, coming up mid-way through last year, would've been great for him. Could've still looked at the NFL window this year for camp invites. The NFL wants to see guys like that produce in the pros, like Stiggers and Alford. They will kick the tires and use you in camp/ps, but breaking into the AR is very different. Even Rourke didn't do enough up here and in camp/ps down there to lock in a spot. And he really earned it. If Elgersma is really smart, he is using this as an opportunity to accelerate his growth and speed up his adjustment to higher levels of play.

Forsure, I was just pointing out that if he wants to make bank right now...that's his best option. It will also give him some film for NFL teams. I'm not saying it will lead to an NFL roster spot...but maybe PR? Either way, I fully believe the rookie cap is why he isn't currently a Blue Bomber.

I would sign UFL as well. Players can opt out of their contracts for any other league anyway,

It's a hard call for him, to be fair. He's 23, about to turn 24, and easily 2 years away from playing here or in the UFL. By the time he has the base amount of film and experience to get back to the NFL window, he is turning 28, and at the end of his window. UFL pay will be close to what he would get here, and each will be about equal to a couple of weeks on an NFL PR. He's still getting workouts, and he played well enough in PS to be on an NFL PR. If I was him, I would play in the UFL this year, and try to make an NFL PR out of camp. I'm sure he would get a camp invite from someone. If an NFL PR offer doesn't come at that point, sign up here. With the coaching down south, and playing against that level of competition in 2 camps plus the UFL, he would likely be at the same level as a 2nd year imp qb out of camp. If not higher. Still plenty young enough to get good money and win a spot here. And still have a bit of long term NFL hope. I also think that is the best-case scenario for us. The seasoning he'd get in NFL camp and pre-season is far greater than he would get doing the same here. He grew up playing Canadian ball; the nuances are not so far removed for him. The worst case, for us, him and the NFL dream, is he doesn't get an NFL camp invite or ends up on a team that only lets him hold a clipboard, then sits and waits for an NFL pr offer that isn't coming and burns another year, while also not getting reps in the UFL. But even in that event, it isn't terrible for us if he comes up then. You sign him to a long-term deal and lock in cheap.

If the league doesn't fold mid year, or cheques start bouncing and you can motivate yourself to play well in a big stadium with 140 fans playing in a league that literally no one cares about. Trust me, the XFL left a sour taste in a lot of mouths a few years back when it left players high and dry when it folded. Guys literally were hitch hiking home.

He's been drafted by a league that will pay him more than the CFL for a bit anyway.

A lot of people do not realize that NFL rosters are as much political as they are skill based. There is a massive bias against skill players coming out of the CIS. Trenches are trenches, the big men are big men in any league but receivers/QB/RBs coming out of the CIS are rarely anything more than TCF.

based on his pedigree....where and what he came from...his BC as QB....His options were exhausted when Green Bay let him go and nobody picked him up by mid point of the season when all teams had a good grasp on their QB situ's and who what was available that was better Reality is a bitter pill sometimes...But he has the trifecta of "no legit chance in hell" attached to him...Canadian....Canadian trained...Undrafted.....no chance in hell...Plus he has an additional one...he's a QB who plyed his trade in the CIS.....Never...ever gonna happen for him...ever

Yup that’s what I meant.

He will understand the CFL game more than almost all the Amerk QBs. The timing and speed of the game will be the issue.

Listen I have that title, it's what I contribute around here while the grown ups talk football.

Elgersma, and probably other NATs as well, would already be here if the CFL didn't have the ridiculous 3 year contract for crap money on NATs. UFL pays QBs up to 100k USD iirc. EDIT: 64k minimum contract with some making 200-400k. I would think Elgersma would be on the lower end. However, we just saw the UFL MVP sign with us to be at best 2nd string. I can't imagine that Elgersma has more earning potential that he does in that league.

No kidding. The guy is 23 years old. One opportunity down south could be life changing money. He hasn't said a negative word about the CFL or the Bombers and he's just exhausting his options.

I'm not against moving on either. Like I said depends on contract. IF Schoen gets clearance, wants no upfront money, and is willing to play on a prove it contract with a low base salary the risk/reward is in our favor. That being said it is highly improbable he is ready to go anyway so the whole premise is really moot.

This is so childish. You’re talking about his career like your feelings on the topic have any relevance.

No guarantee. He has to get here first. If Elgersma keeps dicking around then **** him. He's like Rourke was with the NFL. Work out for so many teams, make no money & get no offers that after awhile it's embarrassing.

Yea I was thinking more understanding the game better at the CFL level. And while I'm at it I really hope we utilize our 2nd string QB this coming season more than short yardage snaps. I just can't get over the absolute relunctance in doing so. I'm not suggesting pulling the trigger everytime ZC struggles, I'm suggesting being way more strategic with the back up QB other than hat on backwards signaling in plays trotting out onto the field for 3 and inches fall forward and being ready to go if ZC gets blown up.

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