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The way you talk about players is so weird, especially for a guy who has been fairly open about how they don’t think their son got a fair shot during their collegiate career. You don’t think these men exhibit character or leadership? Why? Because they appear to have made a personal choice based on how they want to run their life? I don’t understand why you choose to continually project your wants and desires as a fan of a sports franchise onto these guys who are literally just quitting a job. That’s all it is for them. This doesn’t have to be “they don’t have the character to persevere through a rough patch”, this literally could (and likely is) as simple as “they don’t wanna get paid a low salary to be far away from their families when they could earn equivalent or better back home” (PS not too torn up Wilson left, I think he was option number 4 at this point anyways and I like that it forces the team’s hand to NOT go with the established player)

Condell demands a lot out of his QBs, and maybe Thorne and Wilson just weren't getting the new system.

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Davis Alexander is already hurt again.

I'm fairly certain it was my idea to begin with.........

I don't get it either.

2 hours ago, Noeller said: How is Perkins a veteran back up? He's no more a veteran than Ermergerdsma. This game tomorrow will determine a lot. If the two rookies look good, they won't airlift a veteran like MBT or whatever... They'll find a neg lister to bring in. If the rookies look like ass, however, then they might panic and being in someone with CFL experience (a "veteran", if you will ..) Who the heck is Ermergerdsma?

Just like Noeller

That O'Shea allowed the travesty that was Hogan to continue all season when even the most optimistic fan saw it as such says volumes about O'Shea- and even Walters.

thats the key...Our depth/role/glue/intangible guys before could step in and play...and have an impact....The gys we have on back half of lineup can step in...but arent quality contributors...and the vets we leaned on then...not old in the tooth with younger more athletic guys being snubbed....big difference yup...we lost the right balance Perkins albeut no experience up here...is a seasoned vet...with professional playing time over a number of yrs...in a number of leagues...Maybe he has really picked up the CFL game and Wilson sensed his being cut due to it

They also finally played a good team. Montreal is good. They beat 2 very good teams in Tampa and Buffalo. Carolina has had the easy route with Ottawa and Philly. Both Tampa and buffalo over 100 points. Over 200 combined. Ottawa Philly were ranked 8 and 7 pretty much. Combined 180 ish points. Montreal has had the harder route. They have faced adversity. Carolina has not.

Elgersma looked legit. Can make all the throws and easily. Wilson? Not so much. Probably saw the new kid come in and throw 40 yard darts downfield and said yeah I’m out of here. Oh well. lol at MBT or any other veteran cfl backup. Why would they do that. Why does the QB need cfl experience cuz the QBs out there are not potential starters. Why bring in guys you know who will never start. If Zach gets banged up it’s TE or BP time. Crazy thought. Maybe just maybe TE and or BP can be starters in the league. Worst case they are crappy cfl backups who just are backups their whole career or maybe they can be franchise QBs. Cuz CFL desperately needs new blood at the QB position, recycling never was and never will be’s is just crazy talk.

yeah tried before in 1994 and failed miserably.

Maybe or it can be a case of Wilson being with the team for a few years feeling like he’s earned his keep and should be the back up, but wasn’t re assured ( nor should he be) and decided to quit. I’m not overly concerned. Thorpe by all accounts has interests else where. I’m going to believe it’s a case they believe in the guys currently on the roster at the quarterback position are going to be in a position to make the team better. I would feel the same way. Wilson is a good short yardage guy but if he’s never going to be a starter, and he’s not a specialist like Stevens really why would we continue to put time and reps.

I'm sure Tyrrell Pigrome is out there somewhere waiting for a call...

All I know is tomorrow is going to be VERY interesting. In some ways, Condell's job just got way easier, but if both TE and BP look like ****, it just got way harder. Pray for the former...

Brilliant. Will be stealing and passing off as my own. As to the rest of the post, I just think this was the plan all off season. We never brought in a vet QB, even before Ermergerdsma was signed. Perkins was signed with the hope that he could fill the Streveler role. Whether that’s purely SY or the primary backup will likely depend on how the preseason goes, but I’m putting my money on Ermergerdsma.

Yeah, sorry. Thorne & Wilson.

You mean Thorne and Wilson. Hot Take: They saw Osh's policy of playing veterans at all costs way past their primes, and decided that they didn't want to wait until 2035 to get a shot at the starting QB.

Hope that's the case!

Hot Take: They saw how good Elgersma looked and decided they had no future and left.

Character & leadership. Something Perkins & Wilson don't appear to have. If they still want to play then quitting isn't going to help convince other teams to give them a chance. I can see someone like Jake Dolegala or Mason Fine signed as a fourth qb. They have never quit. Wilson was a waste of time.

It's not terribly hard to see why either guy left from a football stand point. As a P4 QB, it's possible that Thorne made more money than Collaros last year and he was likely going to be on the PR. It's possible that Elgersma is going to be QB2, and Wilson would be going on his 3rd straight year of QB3 if he were to beat out Perkins. Yeah you are playing professional football, but at what point do you pull the plug? He wouldn't be the first person to quit after a few years of not getting Second-team reps, and he won't be the last I'm sure.

100% but you gotta get the takes out while they're hot