JCon Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 20 minutes ago, sweep the leg said: I'd take Lindholm over Trouba too. The problem is the Ducks almost certainly feel the same way. And they've got him locked up at a very good price. Anaheim is not trading Lindholm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 With Despres on LTIR, I think Ducks have space... The new contracts are making Enstroms and Myers' deals look less impressive. Market has adjusted. Ducky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 1 minute ago, Floyd said: With Despres on LTIR, I think Ducks have space... The new contracts are making Enstroms and Myers' deals look less impressive. Market has adjusted. How so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Rich said: How so? $5-5.5 is your A-list defencemen, then it drops to 3.5-4... then $800-$1.5 Enstrom contract is looking bad, Myers is no longer very good from a cap perspective... Stuart overpaid... there's a lot of teams in this fix. Edited October 27, 2016 by Floyd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted October 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 1 minute ago, Floyd said: $5-5.5 is your A-list defencemen, then it drops to 3.5-4... then $800-$1.5 Enstrom contract is looking bad, Myers is no longer very good from a cap perspective... Stuart overpaid... there's a lot of teams in this fix. Myers is very good. Decent cap hit, lower cash. Perfect for a team like the Jets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted October 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 10 minutes ago, Floyd said: With Despres on LTIR, I think Ducks have space... The new contracts are making Enstroms and Myers' deals look less impressive. Market has adjusted. Could be. Some reports are, even with LTIR they are slightly above the cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 24 minutes ago, Floyd said: $5-5.5 is your A-list defencemen, then it drops to 3.5-4... then $800-$1.5 Enstrom contract is looking bad, Myers is no longer very good from a cap perspective... Stuart overpaid... there's a lot of teams in this fix. I wouldn't call these A-List defensemen yet. These are good, young, up and coming defensemen that signed these deals after their first entry level deal. They may get to A-List in a few years, not all of them will. The exact same position Myers was in when he signed his deal. A-List D-men right now are people like Doughty ($7M), Weber ($7.8M), Keith ($5.5M - which is a steal), Subban ($9M) Enstrom is probably overpaid for what he is now, but his contract can't even compared to these guys because of all of the RFA years that were bought in those contracts. Enstrom had mostly or all UFA years in his. Myers may be a problem if / when the Jets become a cap team. Until then it doesn't matter. A $2.6M salary for Stuart for this year and next is peanuts and is splitting hairs to complain about. Both Stuart and Enstrom come off the books after next year, so those contracts are not hurting the team at all. Other then Trouba, the only contracts they need to figure out before both of these guys come off the books are Stafford (won't re-sign will free up more space), Burmi (still RFA signed for low or traded, Thorubrn - won't be re-signed, Tanev - 3rd / 4th line RFA, Postma - UFA, Chiarot - RFA won't command a big salary, Helleybuck - RFA who Atomic has decreed as AHL calibre so he will sign for peanuts as well). There are things to fix on this team for sure, but these contracts are not an issue at all. sweep the leg, mbrg and JCon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted October 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 I think also, these contracts are second deals for these players. And I think many of them thought they'd cash in with $6-$7m deals and teams are holding the reigns a bit. They are reasonable deals for very good D men at that point in their careers. And we might be seeing the trend away from a bridge deal, which cost the Habs. Jets will sign Trouba for 6-7 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 Announced today that Little is out until end of November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 (edited) Ducks will be over the cap by about 150 000 and still need to shed salary. They are seriously in cap hell and might be forced to give up a guy like Theodore Larsson or Montour just to move a guy like Stoner. Like Chicago gave up Teravainen to get rid of Bickell. Ducks will have to do the same shortly. Edited October 27, 2016 by Goalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bustamente Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 6 hours ago, Rich said: Announced today that Little is out until end of November. Many said the Jets were not very strong up the middle and with Little out it has be proven to be the case MP is not a second centre on anyone's team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted October 27, 2016 Report Share Posted October 27, 2016 MP is a better winger. Call up Copp. Go Scheif Perreault Lowry Copp until little is back. Burmi shouldn't be on the ice Ducky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 Trouba, Lemieux. and a first for RNH and Nurse. We give up a lot but get 2 pretty good players in areas of need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 56 minutes ago, Ducky said: Trouba, Lemieux. and a first for RNH and Nurse. We give up a lot but get 2 pretty good players in areas of need. Trouba does not want to play in Canada and certainly not in Edmonton. Goalie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 18 minutes ago, JCon said: Trouba does not want to play in Canada and certainly not in Edmonton. And the Jets aren't gonna trade Lemieux. Petan maybe but Lemieux isn't gonna be dealt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted October 28, 2016 Report Share Posted October 28, 2016 Oh, Lemieux is untouchable.......forgot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 Anyone see anything wrong with this picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 1 minute ago, Rich said: Anyone see anything wrong with this picture? Smaller drink then i expected. Ducky, Noeller and Rich 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 22 hours ago, Ducky said: Oh, Lemieux is untouchable.......forgot. No but I don't think they are in a hurry to get rid of him.. he will be a Jet one day in the future. They are very high on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 So am I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 RNH and Nurse aren't worth a potential #1D Lemieux and a probably high first. Regardless of Trouba not wanting to play in Canada... Jets lose that trade. That 1st could be Nolan Patrick or Liljegren or Hague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Goalie said: RNH and Nurse aren't worth a potential #1D Lemieux and a probably high first. Regardless of Trouba not wanting to play in Canada... Jets lose that trade. That 1st could be Nolan Patrick or Liljegren or Hague. Not if they have RNH and Nurse in the lineup. Nurse has 1D potential and Trouba is not yet a 1D. He may no have the O that Trouba has but is nastier and probably a better defensive player than Trouba is. Lemieux will be a solid 3rd winger but we have a plethora of LWers. RNH is the player I am most interested in. 5 years at 6 m per and an elite two way player. One of the very best defensive centers in the league. Think of what we could do with the lineup once Little gets back and I am not even talking about Roslo yet. For Atomic's sake... Laine Wheeler Scheif Connor Little Armia Perreault RNH Ehlers Tanev Lowry Dano Nurse Buff Enstrom Myers Morrissey ?? The trade makes us a better team now and in the future. Also, Nurse is expansion draft exempt. We lose a 1st a 2nd and a soon to be 3rd winger and a D that doesn't want to be here. We get RNH (23) for 5 seasons and Nurse (21) controlled for 5 years. The Oilers probably wouldn't do that deal but I would throw in Petan or a 2nd in 2018. Edited October 29, 2016 by Ducky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardCoreBlue Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 13 hours ago, Rich said: Anyone see anything wrong with this picture? Yea, Shea Weber looks a bit out of game shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unknown Poster Posted October 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 For oft about expansion draft. If we bring trouba back we are going to lose armia.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted October 29, 2016 Report Share Posted October 29, 2016 http://www.tsn.ca/teams-inquiring-about-jets-pavelec-1.595463 Do it Chevy......... Make a deal with Vegas not to pick Enstrom and do the 1-3-7. Helle-Buff Myers Trouba? Scheifele Wheeler Little MP Armia Lowry Copp/Dano....maybe we make a deal to leave a player open like Dano/Copp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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