Floyd Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 The oline is without a doubt an issue but the same thing happened to a pretty good oline in Montreal when Marcel became the OC there too, it's not a coincidence, he's a crappy OC. I an beginning to wonder how much of these problems can be attributed to the O-line guru Bob Wyliey. I am not convinced that the O-line problems come down to personnel but moreso play calling and system. How much of that falls into Wylie's lap because they had no answers for what Hamilton was throwing at them today. Bellefuile is the root of the problem... Wylie cannot call a screen or a pitch - teams know that MB has no response to blitzing other than max protect - watch the playcalls, there's almost never an 'out' - RB is either locked down blocking or we've emptied the backfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Interesting how Jason Mass seems to have solved some of Ottawa's offensive problems. I wonder if MOS even considered him as a replacement for MB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 We made a commitment to mediocrity...when we re-upped Marcel....come to think of it, what is Pat Tracy's secret? Brandon Blue&Gold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Interesting how Jason Mass seems to have solved some of Ottawa's offensive problems. I wonder if MOS even considered him as a replacement for MB. Would have loved to see Maas here... but signing Ellingson, Jackson, Sinopoli, Price, Rogers solved Ottawa's offensive problems... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 We made a commitment to mediocrity...when we re-upped Marcel....come to think of it, what is Pat Tracy's secret?He's got pictures of O'Shea sitting on the toilet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Interesting how Jason Mass seems to have solved some of Ottawa's offensive problems. I wonder if MOS even considered him as a replacement for MB. Would have loved to see Maas here... but signing Ellingson, Jackson, Sinopoli, Price, Rogers solved Ottawa's offensive problems... When they play average teams like themselves or bad ones. Killed by Edmonton, likely to be killed by Hamilton and Toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 We made a commitment to mediocrity...when we re-upped Marcel....come to think of it, what is Pat Tracy's secret? Coached both Walters and OShea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Well Ottawa must be licking their chops waiting to feast on Winnipeg then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Well Ottawa must be licking their chops waiting to feast on Winnipeg then. Will probably be a good game. Both killed by Edmonton, both really close with Calgary and Montreal. I don't believe Ottawa will put up much resistance to Hamilton either. The Bombers, Ottawa, Montreal and Calgary are pretty even IMO. I think BC and Saskatchewan are the worst teams right now. Hamilton, Edmonton and Toronto are the best teams, Toronto is a little inconsistent. bearpants 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 We made a commitment to mediocrity...when we re-upped Marcel....come to think of it, what is Pat Tracy's secret? He is Mike O'Shea's grandfather. rebusrankin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 The oline is without a doubt an issue but the same thing happened to a pretty good oline in Montreal when Marcel became the OC there too, it's not a coincidence, he's a crappy OC. I an beginning to wonder how much of these problems can be attributed to the O-line guru Bob Wyliey. I am not convinced that the O-line problems come down to personnel but moreso play calling and system. How much of that falls into Wylie's lap because they had no answers for what Hamilton was throwing at them today. Bellefuile is the root of the problem... Wylie cannot call a screen or a pitch - teams know that MB has no response to blitzing other than max protect - watch the playcalls, there's almost never an 'out' - RB is either locked down blocking or we've emptied the backfield I was referring more to offencive blocking schemes in general as being faulty. I watched one play were two Bomber receivers setup up across the line from a Ti-Cat LB, they both ignored him, split their routes around him and rewarded him with a direct bee-line to Willy in the backfield for a sack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Marcel has seen Hamilton three times this season, how can you have no answer to their pressure? voodoochylde 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 And because neither of them realized they should block the LB that then becomes a scheme issue? That's like saying an o line man that gets beat one on one as soon as the ball is snapped is because of the scheme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 The oline is without a doubt an issue but the same thing happened to a pretty good oline in Montreal when Marcel became the OC there too, it's not a coincidence, he's a crappy OC. I an beginning to wonder how much of these problems can be attributed to the O-line guru Bob Wyliey. I am not convinced that the O-line problems come down to personnel but moreso play calling and system. How much of that falls into Wylie's lap because they had no answers for what Hamilton was throwing at them today. Bellefuile is the root of the problem... Wylie cannot call a screen or a pitch - teams know that MB has no response to blitzing other than max protect - watch the playcalls, there's almost never an 'out' - RB is either locked down blocking or we've emptied the backfield I was referring more to offencive blocking schemes in general as being faulty. I watched one play were two Bomber receivers setup up across the line from a Ti-Cat LB, they both ignored him, split their routes around him and rewarded him with a direct bee-line to Willy in the backfield for a sack. I noticed that no one was rub blocking on max protect - you were either locked down or running a route But thats still on Bellefuile... there is never an emergency out - teams know they can send everyone because MB's only answer is an occasional hitch screen behind LOS - I'm dying for a Kevin Glenn last second flip to Roberts - Cotton or Marshall could easily block and catch The other thing that drives me nuts is how come DelMonaco is a bum here and a genius in Calgary... and Wylie turns into a bum as soon as he comes back - I don't get it On the bright side, next game should be MB's good game - hopefully Marve is in for it Mark F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatty Liver Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 And because neither of them realized they should block the LB that then becomes a scheme issue? That's like saying an o line man that gets beat one on one as soon as the ball is snapped is because of the scheme? Well sure, they're just doing what they were told to do on that particular play-call. That LB wasn't supposed to be there and neither had a clue that he might be their responsibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Players need to be more than robots or something u can manipulate with a joystick. They have to be smart and be able to adapt on the fly to a variety of situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 And because neither of them realized they should block the LB that then becomes a scheme issue? That's like saying an o line man that gets beat one on one as soon as the ball is snapped is because of the scheme? Well sure, they're just doing what they were told to do on that particular play-call. That LB wasn't supposed to be there and neither had a clue that he might be their responsibility. If they were that stupid they wouldn't get anywhere near professional football. That's like saying a left winger in the NHL is too dumb to realize the high guy on the left side of the ice is his responsibility in the D zone whether it's a D or a forward who slips back. The play call rarely has a specific protection called unless it's a rollout. Picard and to a lesser extent Willy are setting that at the line based on the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 You give some far too much credit. Why do punts get blocked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Ted Laurent was beating a double-team, Picard was poor once more, and Neufeld looked like the Riders made a good decision to let him go. And we still cannot handle or counter blitzes- the book is out on the Bombers. DR. CFL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Every year we draft offensive linemen & every year we suck. Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Every year we draft offensive linemen & every year we suck. Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Maybe they should play those guys. Floyd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Montreal has built a solid core of o linemen doing that and been able to plug and play with 4 and 5 nationals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoochylde Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 You give some far too much credit. Why do punts get blocked? Because upbacks fail to maintain or make a block .. I'm looking at Jesse Briggs on the first one this year .. missed who it was tonight .. I'll catch it when I re watch the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 I think it was Briggs again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted August 10, 2015 Report Share Posted August 10, 2015 Sometimes it's just easier to admit that we lost to a better team. We aren't as good as the ticats. It's that simple. But 28 points I believe were off turnovers so you can say we killed ourselves. People blaming coaches always to me screams never played a team sport ever. Coaches coach. Players play however with that said I do think our OC is part of the problem Doublezero and Bigblue204 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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