Mr Dee Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Burke is done. He has no part of the game going forward. You can almost understand the O moving abysmally, but the defence should have been figured out with his direct input. The defence should have been on fire, blitzing and stunting and playing tight coverage. It was a fail right from the start. Boo Creehan, boo Burke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 I'm starting to come around to the idea of Tom Higgins, classy guy too boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 The only credible guy right now could be available. Wade Miller has to call Mark Cohon and seek permission to speak with Tom Higgins about the open GM and HC position. I;m sure the league can operate without a head of officiating for a few months. The has to be someone in the league office who can assume he responsibilities Give him a 3 year contract at $400,000 a year and full reigns of the football operations. Walters is a great guy but he's just not ready to take on the job of the GM. Wade...get er done. And how do you know Walters is not ready? He may be more ready than you think he is...certainly can't do any worse at this point! Ah, here we go again. Yeah, let's just make Walter, another personnel guy with no experience our GM. Let him learn on the job & make mistakes. After all, it's the Bomber Way. And why we keep losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Not to defend Clean house after the Sask games... Only coaching survivors should be Dickenson and Bellefuille, replace everyone else as soon as bodies become available Are you suggesting we finish the season with 2 coaches because I can't see anyone wanting to come in for half a season or am I misunderstanding what you are saying? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 why are we keeping bellefeuille? He hasn't proven to be anything more than mediocre at best (if you want to be generous to him) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 why are we keeping bellefeuille? He hasn't proven to be anything more than mediocre at best (if you want to be generous to him) and that's based on a pretty large sample size too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Really, there's nobody else. And his newly crafted offence certainly didn't have a hand in our losing the game. OTOH, hmm With Hall going out when he did, we're left with no idea of what may have happened. Of course with our defence playing 17 pts. and out, it wouldn't have mattered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Even Dave Dickenson would fail with the group we have now. Judging Bellefeuille's play calling & offense with the hand he's been dealt isn't fair. Needs more time. What I would like to see is Burke firing Creehan & he takes over the defense himself. Then leave the coaches alone until the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Even Dave Dickenson would fail with the group we have now. Judging Bellefeuille's play calling & offense with the hand he's been dealt isn't fair. Needs more time. What I would like to see is Burke firing Creehan & he takes over the defense himself. Then leave the coaches alone until the off season. He doesn't even need to fire him, just take over the duties and have Creehan be the head cheerleader like he was before. Berry used to do this all the time with the oline receivers and backs, until they made him fire his buddy Cartwright then he just checked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirty30 Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 I don't understand what all the hype is around Higgins. Is he not even more Vanilla that Lapo? I hope the club waits til the season is over and looks at assistant GMs from other teams. I want the GM who can get us Dickenson as Head Coach and isn't afraid to make big moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 I don't understand what all the hype is around Higgins. Is he not even more Vanilla that Lapo? I hope the club waits til the season is over and looks at assistant GMs from other teams. I want the GM who can get us Dickenson as Head Coach Check his track record as a coach & GM & get back to us. Dirty30 and rebusrankin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 Even Dave Dickenson would fail with the group we have now. Judging Bellefeuille's play calling & offense with the hand he's been dealt isn't fair. Needs more time. What I would like to see is Burke firing Creehan & he takes over the defense himself. Then leave the coaches alone until the off season. who's judging the guy based on what happened in that one game with Winnipeg? The guy has a pretty sizable body of work in the CFL. He was OC for one of Calvillos worst years in Montreal, the offense he ran in Saskatchewan wasn't anything to be concerned about... He's not the kind of coach you go out of your way to keep. If you have nothing else he might serve as a stop gap but we can do better for next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted August 25, 2013 Report Share Posted August 25, 2013 We may be able to do better, sure. But with the crapshow going on here before Marcel arrived, I think he deserves a bit of time Tim Burke has a lot to be blamed for letting Crowton have a free hand as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Not to defend Clean house after the Sask games... Only coaching survivors should be Dickenson and Bellefuille, replace everyone else as soon as bodies become available Are you suggesting we finish the season with 2 coaches because I can't see anyone wanting to come in for half a season or am I misunderstanding what you are saying? So, just as an example, if we asked Barresi to come in as RB coach... you think he would say no...? There are guys out there - assuming that Bellefuille is the next HC - we can probably have a few guys in place by season's end and our top asst jobs filled early in the off-season. Regardless, we cannot repeat Mack's off-seasons where coaching vacancies end up filled in April... The bombers need to have their staff in place before 2014 and really send a message in free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Does anyone know if Higgins even has remote interest in GM'ing for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 So, just as an example, if we asked Barresi to come in as RB coach... you think he would say no...? There are guys out there - assuming that Bellefuille is the next HC - we can probably have a few guys in place by season's end and our top asst jobs filled early in the off-season. Considering Barresi is the head coach of the Ottawa Gee-Gees, I think he would say no. I don't know why anyone would assume Bellefeuille is going to be the next head coach. New GM will pick the head coach. Does anyone know if Higgins even has remote interest in GM'ing for us? He applied for both the GM and HC jobs back in 2010 iirc. And when asked about other GM vacancies over the past few years he has said he was interested so I don't see why not. iso_55 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyOnTheSpot Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 The way it stands right now Burke will go down as the worst, bar none worst coach this team has ever had. At least if you replace him you have the chance of getting the players fired up again. Regardless, pretty much a clean sweep is needed in the off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 The way it stands right now Burke will go down as the worst, bar none worst coach this team has ever had. At least if you replace him you have the chance of getting the players fired up again. Regardless, pretty much a clean sweep is needed in the off season. Do you really think so? Jim Daley in '05 had a much better QB (Glenn) than anything Burke has right now. That '05 team was abysmal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 The way it stands right now Burke will go down as the worst, bar none worst coach this team has ever had. At least if you replace him you have the chance of getting the players fired up again. Regardless, pretty much a clean sweep is needed in the off season. Do you really think so? Jim Daley in '05 had a much better QB (Glenn) than anything Burke has right now. That '05 team was abysmal. and what's this team? I honestly think Burke is the worst head coach I've ever seen on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark H. Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 The way it stands right now Burke will go down as the worst, bar none worst coach this team has ever had. At least if you replace him you have the chance of getting the players fired up again. Regardless, pretty much a clean sweep is needed in the off season. Do you really think so? Jim Daley in '05 had a much better QB (Glenn) than anything Burke has right now. That '05 team was abysmal. and what's this team? I honestly think Burke is the worst head coach I've ever seen on this team. Merely pointing out...there's plenty of futility to choose from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 The way it stands right now Burke will go down as the worst, bar none worst coach this team has ever had. At least if you replace him you have the chance of getting the players fired up again. Regardless, pretty much a clean sweep is needed in the off season. Do you really think so? Jim Daley in '05 had a much better QB (Glenn) than anything Burke has right now. That '05 team was abysmal. and what's this team? I honestly think Burke is the worst head coach I've ever seen on this team. Worse than Mike Kelly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Negatron Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 The way it stands right now Burke will go down as the worst, bar none worst coach this team has ever had. At least if you replace him you have the chance of getting the players fired up again. Regardless, pretty much a clean sweep is needed in the off season. Do you really think so? Jim Daley in '05 had a much better QB (Glenn) than anything Burke has right now. That '05 team was abysmal. and what's this team? I honestly think Burke is the worst head coach I've ever seen on this team. Worse than Mike Kelly? Mike Kelly had a better record with Michael Bishop, so yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 I agree that this is a worse situation than Mike Kelly but I know 17 really hates him so I'm surprised to hear him say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Just pray now that the Oregon State Beavers tank this season and let go of Mike Reilly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted August 26, 2013 Report Share Posted August 26, 2013 Worse than Mike Kelly? Mike Kelly was a bigger problem as GM than he was as a head coach. As a head coach he might have been successful to be honest, it was just the OC and GM roles he failed so hard in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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