UFA and RFA

[The Unknown Poster]

Kind of crazy that we seem ready to ditch Morrisey before anyone's really seen what he can do... be very surprised if he doesn't see some playing time with Jets after first injury, maybe even secure a spot like Chiarot

 

On other teams, he would probably be in the league already - Chevy is very conservative with development

 

Do we really need Hanifin when we have Trouba?  Develop Morrissey and another solid D prospect (who knows who falls to 17th...) seems like more of a Chevy thing to do, plus Kostalek seems to be performing better than people thought.

Myers, Trouba, buff on the right side.

 

Left side is Toby, Stuart, Chiarot.  With Morrissey coming up.  Would like to strengthen the left side.  Im sure thats why all the speculation is on Hanifin.  Toby is very good, but small.  Hanifin gives you a guy that will age along with Trouba and Morrissey.  And heir apparent to Toby for the #1 LHD.

[Goalie]

You win with D, Trouba- Hanifin pairing would be amazing for 10 15 years. Yeah we need him, He's a LHD and LHD is our biggest weakness, if we didn't need him, we probably wouldn't be trying to trade up to 3 to get him.

 

Heres our LHD depth

 

Toby

 

 

 

 

Stuart. Chiarot.Morrissey. Clitsome (back injury, done?? )

 

Thats about it. 

[The Unknown Poster]

Goalie - we're on the same wave length. lol

 

 

 

gary lawless        ✔ @garylawless

Can confirm #nhlJets and Ladd's reps spoke today, talks will continue - via @winnipegnews https://shar.es/1qtV1N  via @sharethis

[Goalie]

Lucic to LA is a done deal. 

[Floyd]

Well, I'm still a fan of picking Chabot for LHD depth - Larsson will still be there at 17 too, might be a good compliment for an offensive guy like Trouba.

 

Trading up for Hanifin or Provorov seems a bit pointless if you have to give up Morrissey

 

By 2017 we should see...

Morrissey-Trouba

Chiarot-Myers

Chabot(?)-Kostalek

 

That's assuming we get nothing for Buff, Toby eventually walks

[Goalie]

Kostalek had a good year but... i wouldn't pencil him in yet that's for sure... and Toby walking without getting anything for him would be awful too, people may not like the guy but he's a legit #1 LHD on most teams in the league.. Morrissey as a first pairing? I dunno man, he's decent but i'm not sure his ceiling isn't that of a good 2nd pairing d man. We shall see...

 

JETS if no trades are made with go BPA at 17 and probably concentrate on d at 25 and later... Chabot going in the first seems pretty far fetched to me...

 

Apparently the Lucic to LA deal is not done but apparently it involves pick 13 and prospects

 

Boston will have picks 13 14 15 if true.

[gbill2004]

Word is Jets and Ladd are closing in on a 6 or 7 year contract worth around $42 million.

Seems a bit high for my liking and more term than I'd like. Ladd would be 30 years old when the new contract comes into effect.

[Rich]

If it is 6 years in that dollar range, it would start paying him around $6M in the first year and around $7.5M in the last year.

 

Not going to get him for much cheaper than that to have him forego free agency.

 

I agree 7 years would be too much.  6 years is even pushing it, but you are going to have to give him term to sign him.  I'd prefer 5.

[Goalie]

For the captain and a guy who pots 25 30 goals and a very good community guy it's worth it. Think about it. Frolik pops 18 20 goals and is gonna get 5 plus

[FrostyWinnipeg]

 Frolik pops 18 20 goals and is gonna get 5 plus

 

Better not get 5+.

[The Unknown Poster]

I'd be okay with that. But that has to spell the end of buff.

A commitment like that from our captain and the team to him would be meaningful.

[Floyd]

Sure hope that term doesn't extend to 37 years old...  Ladd is a Patrick Sharp type talent except with more mileage on him - within 2-3 years, he will be on our third line if that

 

Pay him big with signing bonuses in the first couple years then lighten up the contract - if Chevy can get a 5.5 mill cap hit overall, that's a coup

[Ducky]

6 years for 38 and I'd sign him... Rather have a 4-5  year contract but he has been underpaid the last couple years and has added responsibilty as the captain and does the job well.

[The Unknown Poster]

If he signs a contract that all but ensures a productive Ladd retired as a Jet I'm happy. Probably one more deal after this one but the mutual commitment would be a good sign.

[bustamente]

 

 Frolik pops 18 20 goals and is gonna get 5 plus

 

Better not get 5+.

 

If he wants 5+ it better not be here because buff will want 8 and ladd will want 7 and that wont happen here either

[Atomic]

Nobody gets contracts in Winnipeg, nope! **** em all, we'll play a lineup of rookies!

[Goalie]

Tell that to Ladd who signed b4 with us. Little wheeler Perreault tho who have all signed reasonable contracts. 5 plus for a 3rd line czecker ohhh c what I did there. .. not reasonable

[Goalie]

Tell that to Ladd who signed b4 with us. Little wheeler Perreault tho who have all signed reasonable contracts. 5 plus for a 3rd line czecker ohhh c what I did there. .. not reasonable

[The Unknown Poster]

Could see Frolik in Pittsburgh. They might be looking for a flashier player but they'd be smart to look at him.

Wouldn't be surprised to see a Ladd contract announced on Wednesday.

[gbill2004]

Stafford's agent and Jets are continuing talks today.

[The Unknown Poster]

Stafford's agent and Jets are continuing talks today.

Very interesting.  This might be where the pre-free agent day window to talk to teams plays into our advantage.  Surely his agent made some calls and they have an idea that the Jets offer was in the ballpark of fair market.  Otherwise there is no reason to work on a deal the day before (or two days before) Free Agency.  It would seem to indicate Stafford enjoyed his time here also and wants to be here.  Which is weird since no one wants to come to Winnipeg. 

 

Be nice if Jets announce signing of Stafford AND extension for Ladd this week.  Burmi signing probably not far off either (or trade).

[The Unknown Poster]

USAtoday on top 25 UFA's:

 

But there will be plenty of buyers when the market opens Wednesday. A look at the top 25 unrestricted free agents:

 

1. Defenseman Mike Green (Washington Capitals): Several teams are looking for an offensive defenseman and Green is the best one available. He's 29 and he could be a 50- to 60-point defenseman if he signs with the right team. Good fit: New Jersey Devils. Having a puck-mover like Green would make them more dangerous.

 

2. Center Antoine Vermette (Chicago Blackhawks): With centers in short supply, Vermette, 32, should have a number of suitors. When he was traded by the Arizona Coyotes to the Blackhawks, he had trouble adjusting last season. But he scored two game-winning goals in the Stanley Cup Final. He's a strong two-way center who can win a big faceoff. Good fit: Coyotes. Vermette played his best hockey there.

 

3. Center Mike Ribeiro (Nashville Predators): Considering the Predators gave Ribeiro a chance after the Coyotes dropped him because of off-ice behavior, it was assumed he would re-sign with them. But it hasn't happened yet, and Ribeiro, 35, might end up as a free agent. He had 62 points last season. Good fit: Carolina Hurricanes. They need an offensive spark.

 

4. Left wing Matt Beleskey (Anaheim Ducks): At 28, Beleskey is in the prime of his career. He scored 22 goals last season. His previous high was 11. Has he blossomed into a consistent 20-goal scorer or did he have a career season? That's what NHL teams have to decide. Good fit: Devils. They need scoring.

 

5. Right wing Michael Frolik (Winnipeg Jets): Frolik is a good all-around hockey player who had 19 goals last season. He can kill penalties and understands the defensive side of the game. He's 27. Good fit: Ducks. They're looking to replace Beleskey and Kyle Palmieri.

 

6. Defenseman Andrej Sekera (Los Angeles Kings): The Kings wanted to keep Sekera but didn't have the cap space. He has the tools to help a quality offensive team. Good fit: Colorado Avalanche. Joe Sakic is looking for a blue-chip defenseman.

 

7. Left wing Drew Stafford (Jets): He's 29 and has scored as many as 31 goals in a season. He has 19 points in 26 games after he was traded from Buffalo to Winnipeg last season: Good fit: Jets. They would like to re-sign him.

 

8. Defenseman Cody Franson (Predators): He didn't play well for the Predators, but he has shown he can be a 40- to 50-point defenseman. He's 6-5 and weighs 220. Good fit: Edmonton Oilers. At 27, Franson is young enough to be part of the Oilers' future with Connor McDavid and company.

 

9. Right wing Martin St. Louis (New York Rangers): At 40, St. Louis is not the dominant player he once was. He had a disappointing playoff, but he did score 21 goals last season. Presuming St. Louis is willing to accept a one-year deal with a low base salary and a strong bonus package, he could be a good roll of the dice. Good fit: Pittsburgh Penguins. St. Louis might be a good fit for Sidney Crosby or Evgeni Malkin.

 

10. Justin Williams (Kings): Williams has three Stanley Cup championship rings — two with the Kings and one with the Hurricanes. Williams, 33, has a history of producing in the playoffs. He's good for 18 to 20 goals a season. Good fit: Boston Bruins. They say they aren't rebuilding. If that's true, they will need to replace traded Milan Lucic's goals.

 

11. Defenseman Francois Beauchemin (Ducks): The only negative about Beauchemin is he is 35. He's a desirable, all-around defenseman. He boasts a hard shot. He defends aggressively and he has bite to his game. Most of the contenders would be interested in him. Good fit: Ducks. They need him.

 

12. Defenseman Johnny Oduya (Blackhawks): At 33, Oduya is a very effective defensive defenseman. He is a second-pairing guy who is comfortable playing against the NHL's top-line players. Many teams will be interested. Good fit: Kings. With suspended Slava Voynov's status still unknown, the Kings need another defender.

 

13. Defenseman Paul Martin (Penguins): At 34, Martin probably can't command a long-term deal. But that means he probably will have more interested parties. He's an effective one-on-one defender. Good fit: Bruins. They have to replace Dougie Hamilton. Martin might be a quality short-term solution.

 

14. Defenseman Christian Ehrhoff (Penguins): He has been a 50-point offensive defenseman in the past. At 32, he is probably a 40-point guy. Good fit: San Jose Sharks. He started his career there, and they would benefit from his abilities.

 

15. Center Mike Richards (Kings): The Kings put him on waivers for the purpose of buying out his contract. Unquestionably, Richards has been a disappointment in LA. But he will get his buyout money and then sign a modest contract and be a gritty No. 4 center for some team. Good fit: Coyotes. They could give him a chance to rebuild his reputation. They need help at center

 

16. Center-wing Eric Fehr (Capitals): He's 6-4 and you can count on him for 15-plus goals every season. He had 19 this season. He was at $1.6 million and he's looking for a raise. Good fit: Vancouver Canucks. They're looking to supplement their secondary scoring.

 

17. Right wing Joel Ward (Capitals): He scored 19 goals at 34 and is the role player general managers are looking for at the trade deadline: Good fit: Calgary Flames. They are looking to fine-tune their roster.

 

18. Defenseman Zbynek Michalek (St. Louis Blues): With 711 NHL games on his résumé, Michalek, 32, is the veteran defenseman that every team is seeking. Good fit: Toronto Maple Leafs. Even a rebuilding team needs veteran defenders.

 

19. Center Mike Santorelli (Predators): The versatile role player can chip in 12 to 15 goals. He understands his role and could be an inexpensive source of NHL experience. Good fit: Coyotes. They have to spend to get to the salary cap floor.

 

20. Center Shawn Matthias (Canucks): At 6-4, 216, Matthias can offer size and third-line effectiveness. He scored 18 goals last season. Good fit: Capitals. They will be looking to replace Fehr.

 

21. Center Brad Richards (Blackhawks): At 35, he is still a sharp passer and reads the play extremely well. He can still contribute to a high-powered offense. Good fit: Blackhawks. They would probably re-sign him if he is willing to sign a one-year deal for a modest salary.

 

22. Right wing Chris Stewart (Minnesota Wild): He's 6-2, 231 and he once scored 28 goals for the Colorado Avalanche. Coaches are always left wanting more from Stewart, but he is 27 and he does enough to draw interest. Good fit: Florida Panthers. They can use size and goals.

 

23. Left wing Curtis Glencross (Capitals): He has proved that he can generate 40 or more points per season. Given the league-wide need for secondary scoring, Glencross has value. Good fit: Hurricanes. They have to score more this season or they will fall to the very bottom.

 

24. Goaltender Karri Ramo (Flames): Ramo has had some stretches when he looks like he could be a No. 1 goalie. Good fit: Sharks. They are the only team that doesn't have a projected No. 1 goalie.

 

25. Defenseman Barret Jackman (Blues): Jackman would be a safe pickup for a contending team looking solidify its defense. He's a stay-at-home defender who plays with intensity. Good fit: Blackhawks. He could be a dependable No. 6 for them. They will be looking for a veteran because they will be losing Oduya and Michal Rozsival.

 

 

Anyone look good to the Jets there?

[Rich]

 

Stafford's agent and Jets are continuing talks today.

Very interesting.  This might be where the pre-free agent day window to talk to teams plays into our advantage.  Surely his agent made some calls and they have an idea that the Jets offer was in the ballpark of fair market.  Otherwise there is no reason to work on a deal the day before (or two days before) Free Agency.  It would seem to indicate Stafford enjoyed his time here also and wants to be here.  Which is weird since no one wants to come to Winnipeg. 

 

Be nice if Jets announce signing of Stafford AND extension for Ladd this week.  Burmi signing probably not far off either (or trade).

 

 

For sure there will always the percentage of players that prefer to play in a bigger city, but I think it has been shown, even back to the Jets 1.0 days, that while Winnipeg isn't a top priority for many players, once they get here, there are many players whole like it and wish to stay.

[The Unknown Poster]

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[The Unknown Poster]

 

 

Stafford's agent and Jets are continuing talks today.

Very interesting.  This might be where the pre-free agent day window to talk to teams plays into our advantage.  Surely his agent made some calls and they have an idea that the Jets offer was in the ballpark of fair market.  Otherwise there is no reason to work on a deal the day before (or two days before) Free Agency.  It would seem to indicate Stafford enjoyed his time here also and wants to be here.  Which is weird since no one wants to come to Winnipeg. 

 

Be nice if Jets announce signing of Stafford AND extension for Ladd this week.  Burmi signing probably not far off either (or trade).

 

 

For sure there will always the percentage of players that prefer to play in a bigger city, but I think it has been shown, even back to the Jets 1.0 days, that while Winnipeg isn't a top priority for many players, once they get here, there are many players whole like it and wish to stay.

 

Absolutely.  I was being sarcastic.  Players have shown repeatedly that chance to win seems to be the most important thing plus ice time, "right fit" (and the Jets as an organization always get rave reviews).  I think the city comes into play more with players who have families because its the wife and kids that spend more time in the city than the player.  And that can work to our advantage also for families that want a "small" big city.

 

I remember when the Jets were announced as coming back one discussion thread was devoted to "how will Winnipeg absorb housing needs of 25 millionaires".  I guess we managed.  Andrew Ladd lived in JT's condo which was in the same building as a friend of mine and she aint a millionaire.