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Penton: Burris likely headed to Winnipeg?

From today's Winnipeg Sun:

 

It was a year ago this week that the Edmonton Eskimos traded for Mike Reilly to get exclusive negotiating rights with the quarterback two weeks before he was set to become a free agent.

 

The Winnipeg Blue Bombers might want to do the same with Zach Collaros if they really desire his services, because there are rumblings in the CFL right now that the Hamilton Tiger-Cats could be a destination for the Toronto Argonauts backup.

 

The Bombers are the only team without a bona fide No. 1 quarterback right now, so the thinking is Collaros, who sources say is looking at Gil Scott or Dan Vertlieb to represent him in his upcoming negotiations, will head to Winnipeg on Feb. 15.

 

Not so fast, as it appears the Hamilton Tiger-Cats will figure significantly into what happens with Winnipeg's quarterback situation -- for two reasons.

First of all, there are more than a few people throughout the CFL who think veteran Henry Burris will end up signing in Winnipeg when he becomes a free agent on Feb. 15.

"Three people told me today they think Burris will end up in Winnipeg over the Ticats," a CFL source told the Sun.

 

Burris wouldn't exactly be a long-term answer for the Blue and Gold, as he will turn 39 years old during the first week of training camp, but he would give the reeling franchise an instant upgrade and be an excellent mentor for the team's young pivots.

 

The second factor in all of this is the Ticats are apparently very interested in bringing Collaros to Steeltown. They have not made any offers to Burris, and a source said the Ticats are hoping Collaros hears about their interest through the league grapevine. The Tabbies also have Dan LeFevour and Jeremiah Masoli in the fold, so Collaros could conceivably have a shot at the No. 1 gig there with Burris out of the picture.

 

Sources say the Bombers aren't convinced Collaros is a sure-fire No. 1 gun given his limited starting experience and wouldn't mind having a more experienced pivot on the roster to go along with him.

 

The way it's looking now, they might end up getting the experienced quarterback instead of Collaros.

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You are right, the average fan would be extatic if we got Burris, and that is what sells tickets...getting the casual fans excited. 

 

Meanwhile, the hardcore fan would prefer Collaros or Willy.  But that doesn't matter because we buy tickets no matter what. 

 

Looks like it's basically Collaros or nothing for Bomber fans. Then Miller & Walters better get busy & make sure he comes here or else.

Not at all. Some fans here feel that way, but I guarantee the average fan would be thrilled to hear we've acquired a veteran QB like Burris, 38 years old or not.

 

Hope you're right. I dunno. See my comments above...

 

Looks like it's basically Collaros or nothing for Bomber fans. Then Miller & Walters better get busy & make sure he comes here or else.

Not at all. Some fans here feel that way, but I guarantee the average fan would be thrilled to hear we've acquired a veteran QB like Burris, 38 years old or not.

 

 

And they'll be thrilled with 6-12 (Durant, Lulay, Mitchell/Tate, Reilly...we'd be starting the season with undoubtedly the worst QB in our division, at 39 years old) and back at square one in the year we host the Grey Cup.

 

Better build a 2011 defence.

 

Looks like it's basically Collaros or nothing for Bomber fans. Then Miller & Walters better get busy & make sure he comes here or else.

Not at all. Some fans here feel that way, but I guarantee the average fan would be thrilled to hear we've acquired a veteran QB like Burris, 38 years old or not.

 

I think most casual fans would be happy with either one, provided the news tells them they should be excited.

Meanwhile, the hardcore fan would prefer Collaros or Willy.  But that doesn't matter because we buy tickets no matter what. 

I'd prefer neither, but wouldn't be opposed to bringing either of them in.

 

 

Looks like it's basically Collaros or nothing for Bomber fans. Then Miller & Walters better get busy & make sure he comes here or else.

Not at all. Some fans here feel that way, but I guarantee the average fan would be thrilled to hear we've acquired a veteran QB like Burris, 38 years old or not.

 

I think most casual fans would be happy with either one, provided the news tells them they should be excited.

 

The casual fans are easily pleased in the offseason. Sign someone they've heard up and blow so much smoke up their asses and they'll lap it up. Then once the team loses a game everyone is going to be screaming for people to be fired. 

 

The casual fans are easily pleased in the offseason. Sign someone they've heard up and blow so much smoke up their asses and they'll lap it up. Then once the team loses a game everyone is going to be screaming for people to be fired. 

 

 

 

Well, if they blow that much smoke up their asses, they'll be screaming for an entirely different reason.

Besides, there's always butt plugs like Mr Ruleless that casual fans can be directed to.

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@DarrinBauming: Henry Burris: “I would definitely go to Winnipeg – I just want to somewhere I'm wanted.." via/ @scratchingpost #Bombers

 

I'd take Burris.  At least we'd have someone that can read a blitz, throw a long ball, or escape the pocket while still looking up field.  He has years on him, but also many years not playing (NFL).  He has not had concussion issues, leaving his decision making is quick.  I'm not touting him as the next one, but at least we'd be competitive on a game-to-game basis.  

 

Buck played to not lose.  Burris plays to win.  There is a difference.

@DarrinBauming: Henry Burris: “I would definitely go to Winnipeg – I just want to somewhere I'm wanted.." via/ @scratchingpost #Bombers

Roughly translated "I'm desperate, I'll play anywhere I have a spot!"

 

 

I'd take Burris.  At least we'd have someone that can read a blitz, throw a long ball, or escape the pocket while still looking up field.  He has years on him, but also many years not playing (NFL).  He has not had concussion issues, leaving his decision making is quick.  I'm not touting him as the next one, but at least we'd be competitive on a game-to-game basis.  

 

Buck played to not lose.  Burris plays to win.  There is a difference.

 

And there's a difference between playing to win and being stupid and taking unnecessary risks and forcing things that aren't there that costs you games. At 39 he still hasn't found that happy medium.

Yeah taking Solomon Elimimian on head on is definitely playing not to lose... :rolleyes:

 

 

I'd take Burris.  At least we'd have someone that can read a blitz, throw a long ball, or escape the pocket while still looking up field.  He has years on him, but also many years not playing (NFL).  He has not had concussion issues, leaving his decision making is quick.  I'm not touting him as the next one, but at least we'd be competitive on a game-to-game basis.  

 

Buck played to not lose.  Burris plays to win.  There is a difference.

 

The only thing I could disagree with here is the Buck line and I know why you've said it.

It was that asinine decision to have a protective package to "shield" Buck from getting hit. Instead, he got hit worse than ever because...because he is a scrambling QB who was told not to scramble. Duh.

The fact that that offence was directed by a HC who played not to lose was the final straw.

Buck couldn't last more than 3 games…Burris played in all 18 games last year, so there's the difference.

https://soundcloud.com/am900chml/henry-burris-talks-about-his

 

Also I disagree with the notion that Buck played not to lose. IMO you don't play the way that Buck did just to avoid losing, you do it to win.

 

All I can think is.... And there's another 3 yard out on 2nd and 10.  He's comes on Mike Renaud to punt for the 7th time this half.

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How would you compare Hamilton's 2013 OL to the Bombers 2013 OL?

 

 

 

I'd take Burris.  At least we'd have someone that can read a blitz, throw a long ball, or escape the pocket while still looking up field.  He has years on him, but also many years not playing (NFL).  He has not had concussion issues, leaving his decision making is quick.  I'm not touting him as the next one, but at least we'd be competitive on a game-to-game basis.  

 

Buck played to not lose.  Burris plays to win.  There is a difference.

 

And there's a difference between playing to win and being stupid and taking unnecessary risks and forcing things that aren't there that costs you games. At 39 he still hasn't found that happy medium.

 

 

Notice I said his decision making was quick, not that his decision making was necessarily always the best.  

 

I'd rather see the QB attempt to do something rather than taking 5 seconds to watch his 1st and 2nd read, and then getting sacked.  To me it's like taking a knee in a tie game with 23 seconds on the clock when you've only won 3 games all year.

That implies that Burris actually makes decisions. I don't think he is a quick decision maker, he's just able to avoid pressure in the pocket is all. 

 

https://soundcloud.com/am900chml/henry-burris-talks-about-his

 

Also I disagree with the notion that Buck played not to lose. IMO you don't play the way that Buck did just to avoid losing, you do it to win.

 

All I can think is.... And there's another 3 yard out on 2nd and 10.  He's comes on Mike Renaud to punt for the 7th time this half.

 

Is that all on Buck though ?

Seems to me that happened a lot this season as well.

 

As a side note, I'd be good with bringing in Burris for a couple of season to be "the guy", but only if we bring in Marsh to be the future.

The future needs to be now for this franchise.

The future needs to be now for this franchise.

What if Willy or Collaros bomb here in the early going, does this fanbase have the patience to deal with that ?

Not saying that they will bomb or anything, just a thought.

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I'm glad we're at least players in free agency. If Mack were still GM he'd likely be at his all inclusive resort in Mexico right now with no clue what is going on with Collaros.

How would you compare Hamilton's 2013 OL to the Bombers 2013 OL?

 

To start, Hamilton gave up 15 more sacks than the Bombers last season.

Its really sad how much hate he has for him.. He does nothing but win. ****** canoe or not...

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