Atomic Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 A starter salary in the CFL for a guy of his experience will be a huge chunk of the salary cap. You think we'll pick him up for $150,000? Not a chance. If the Bombers sign him it won't be for chump change even if you think he has no leverage. As I said, they'll pay him for what befits a guy of his experience should make. Why? Because you say so? lol I don't get why you feel like when someone else has a point they're making, you're the first one to demand source materials or some kind of proof but you just think it's okay that your argument can be "because I say so" Burris isn't hitting free agency because he's a hot commodity that will instigate a bidding war. If he hits free agency, it's because the team that had him doesn't want him. It's the same as with any player who is declined an offer by their old team. They don't hit the open market with much, if any, leverage to command whatever they want. Burris will still have all the leverage. Because if Collaros is already off the market, the Bombers have no options for a starting QB other than Burris, unless they are really willing to roll the dice on Willy or Hall. And after last season, everyone knows the Bombers do not want to run the risk of another quarterback disaster. Burris could easily just retire. He will be able to squeeze the Bombers for every penny, no question. iso_55 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 A starter salary in the CFL for a guy of his experience will be a huge chunk of the salary cap. You think we'll pick him up for $150,000? Not a chance. If the Bombers sign him it won't be for chump change even if you think he has no leverage. As I said, they'll pay him for what befits a guy of his experience should make. Why? Because you say so? lol I don't get why you feel like when someone else has a point they're making, you're the first one to demand source materials or some kind of proof but you just think it's okay that your argument can be "because I say so" Burris isn't hitting free agency because he's a hot commodity that will instigate a bidding war. If he hits free agency, it's because the team that had him doesn't want him. It's the same as with any player who is declined an offer by their old team. They don't hit the open market with much, if any, leverage to command whatever they want. Burris will still have all the leverage. Because if Collaros is already off the market, the Bombers have no options for a starting QB other than Burris, unless they are really willing to roll the dice on Willy or Hall. And after last season, everyone knows the Bombers do not want to run the risk of another quarterback disaster. Burris could easily just retire. He will be able to squeeze the Bombers for every penny, no question. No chance, the ego is too great. He'll play at a lower salary rather than retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 A starter salary in the CFL for a guy of his experience will be a huge chunk of the salary cap. You think we'll pick him up for $150,000? Not a chance. If the Bombers sign him it won't be for chump change even if you think he has no leverage. As I said, they'll pay him for what befits a guy of his experience should make. Why? Because you say so? lol I don't get why you feel like when someone else has a point they're making, you're the first one to demand source materials or some kind of proof but you just think it's okay that your argument can be "because I say so" Burris isn't hitting free agency because he's a hot commodity that will instigate a bidding war. If he hits free agency, it's because the team that had him doesn't want him. It's the same as with any player who is declined an offer by their old team. They don't hit the open market with much, if any, leverage to command whatever they want. Burris will still have all the leverage. Because if Collaros is already off the market, the Bombers have no options for a starting QB other than Burris, unless they are really willing to roll the dice on Willy or Hall. And after last season, everyone knows the Bombers do not want to run the risk of another quarterback disaster. Burris could easily just retire. He will be able to squeeze the Bombers for every penny, no question. No chance, the ego is too great. He'll play at a lower salary rather than retire. No chance, the ego is too great. He'll retire before playing for anything less than a starter's salary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 nope the competitiveness would out weigh the "**** this ****" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 nope the competitiveness would out weigh the "**** this ****" Nah bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 nope the competitiveness would out weigh the "**** this ****" Nah bro Or in this case...no brah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Nice comeback, I like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 If Burris is the QB solution after all this, the Bombers can enjoy my deposit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Hank is short term at best, JBR. Band aid but not the solution. Hey, get the best YOUNG qb. I want Collaros no doubt. But there are some members here who really like Drew Willy so I'd go with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Penton's article is fairly speculative. Three sources? Who? GMs of three clubs is far different from other members of the media say. I'd take Burris as a stop gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Bottom line is we have to win games. We can't have another season like last year. Build the team around the qb. Give him real weapons & a line that can block so any qb can come in here & have a chance to be successful. We have to start somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 We could always make a trade to bring in a young QB............................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted January 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 If we can't get Collaros I'd love a scenario like this: 2014: Burris starter, Willy backup 2015: Willy starter, Burris backup If Willy succeeds he could be our starter for the next decade. And if not, we have a vet backup in 2015 to step in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Let's be objective here..."fans" if the money were equal would Collaris go to a team in a 4 team division that has just been to the Cup or a team in a 5 team division that hasn't sniffed the playoffs in ........interesting comparison of options Hamilton is the more logical choice, they have a lot more to offer him (a team on the rise and winning, better coaching staff, location, etc). The only thing the Bombers can sell Collaros on is that he'd be the guaranteed starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 We could always make a trade to bring in a young QB............................... wonder what Wally would give for one of his two backups....hmmmm.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 In all honesty, I would rather go through another year like last year than cheer for Burris. %&$* you!!! Sincerely, KBF's liver iso_55 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 If Burris is the QB solution after all this, the Bombers can enjoy my deposit. I was wondering who left that "pile" I stepped in at the game I went to this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted January 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 If Burris is the QB solution after all this, the Bombers can enjoy my deposit.I was wondering who left that "pile" I stepped in at the game I went to this year. And the one I sat in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 We could always make a trade to bring in a young QB............................... wonder what Wally would give for one of his two backups....hmmmm.... Not the potential player I was thinking of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbill2004 Posted January 29, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 We could always make a trade to bring in a young QB...............................wonder what Wally would give for one of his two backups....hmmmm.... Not the potential player I was thinking of. Maybe if we can re-sign Henoc we can trade him for Buck Pierce and Joey Elliot? That should solidify our QB position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Let's be objective here..."fans" if the money were equal would Collaris go to a team in a 4 team division that has just been to the Cup or a team in a 5 team division that hasn't sniffed the playoffs in ........interesting comparison of options "Hasn't sniffed the playoffs in" 2 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Ugh, well if we're going to miss out on collaros, a Burris/Willy combo would be what id want... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Is Hamilton really a team on the rise or did having Burris help them have a good year in a weaker division? You can make an argument that Toronto is the team to beat still in the East and that Montreal is as on the rise as Hamilton. Better location? Hamilton isn't on anybody's list of places to live that I've ever read. Hamilton's new stadium pales in comparison to ours. Winnipeg has a larger and more passionate fan base. Kent Austin has never nutured a QB, both years he won with vets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Reebus, agree with most you say. I think Hamilton is a choice destination for FA's only because of geographic location in Southern Ontario. Our own HC made a career out of switching back & forth between the Argos & Ti Cats. You don't see that so much out West or in Ottawa & Montreal because you'd actually have to move if you switched teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Good Point Iso. Still feel the article is speculative at best. Penton has never been one to break a lot of scoops or frankly actually bust his hump and research a story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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