saskbluefan Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Just seems so odd that Gary would pump Walters tires like this. Atrocious season, the team is NOT doing any better or "coming on strong" after Mack, and Gary is championing the current assistant for the big chair. They've been slowly telling us that Walters will be GM for 2 months, now Gary is in on the sales pitch. Just fricken make him the GM already. God this franchise is lame. Pretty much agree. Gary has had a lot of very inside stuff on the Joe Mack era. Examples, who Kyle Walters really wanted to draft, the Kevin Glenn stuff etc. . Reasonable to assume that comes from Walters. So Gary is returning a favour. I don't necessarily think Kyle is wrong for the job but no way he's the most qualified. Remember, he only got the AGM job because Joe wanted to protect his own hide by having a someone in that chair who was completely unqualified to take over from him. DR. CFL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 I don't necessarily think Kyle is wrong for the job but no way he's the most qualified. Remember, he only got the AGM job because Joe wanted to protect his own hide by having a someone in that chair who was completely unqualified to take over from him. not this **** again.... You wanna throw accusations like that out there let's have some proof, otherwise we can just assume that Walters got that job cause he was a good choice for it. The fact that Miller is adamant that he wants to keep Walters around no matter the role should be an indication that he's a good option for it. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpan85 Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 This site is built on a love for conspiracy theories. blitzmore and Blue-urns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotoriousBIG Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 I don't necessarily think Kyle is wrong for the job but no way he's the most qualified. Remember, he only got the AGM job because Joe wanted to protect his own hide by having a someone in that chair who was completely unqualified to take over from him. not this **** again.... You wanna throw accusations like that out there let's have some proof, otherwise we can just assume that Walters got that job cause he was a good choice for it. The fact that Miller is adamant that he wants to keep Walters around no matter the role should be an indication that he's a good option for it. Or its an indication that Miller knows that with Walters as GM he could have a lot of say in personnel/team matters that he wouldn't have if a Buono/Higgins type was GM. Which is why he's been slowly championing him from day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Sigh....it's always the most negative option, right? Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotoriousBIG Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Sigh....it's always the most negative option, right? Not my mandate, but you have to look at how the club has operated since Bauer's day and make your own assumptions. DR. CFL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueandgold Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Higgins hasn't been a GM in the salary cap era either, personally I don't particularly want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Higgins hasn't been a GM in the salary cap era either, personally I don't particularly want him. That's what your AGM is for. Walters would still be there...and that's something where he'd shine. Helping Higgins work the books. Higgins strength lies elsewhere...brings a lot more to the table. Logan007 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 It's been Walters job to lose since they gave it to him in the first place. He hasn't done anything to lose it, so he is the guy. Might as well make it official on Monday. Same goes for Miller. What could he do in half of a season to lose it? Trading a 2nd round pick for a NI OL prospect with a broken leg that hasn't healed since June with a bloated contract is pretty close for me. Walters in the big chair permanently is just the Football Club being cheap and lazy. Burke staying as head coach will be more of the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 According to Lawless, the only candidates are the current GM's of other teams. Everyone else is off the radar. What a knob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 If I am a betting man the Bombers are over the cap. Mack got rid of the guy that did almost every contract and managed the cap completely. The BoD and CEO tried to then ram Duane Forde down his throat and how did that go. They got rid of the wrong guy who was the stabilizing factor in football ops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 If I am a betting man the Bombers are over the cap. Mack got rid of the guy that did almost every contract and managed the cap completely. The BoD and CEO tried to then ram Duane Forde down his throat and how did that go. They got rid of the wrong guy who was the stabilizing factor in football ops. Yeah, yeah we all know you love Ross Hodgkinson. Let it go already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotoriousBIG Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 If I am a betting man the Bombers are over the cap. Mack got rid of the guy that did almost every contract and managed the cap completely. The BoD and CEO tried to then ram Duane Forde down his throat and how did that go. They got rid of the wrong guy who was the stabilizing factor in football ops. Yeah, yeah we all know you love Ross Hodgkinson. Let it go already. I never understood the hate for Ross, but at the same time, I never understood the love. To me, the ultimate testament to his abilities (or lack thereof) was when he was let go -- was he able to surface somewhere else in the CFL? If the answer is no, then he probably wasn't suited to the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 If I am a betting man the Bombers are over the cap. Mack got rid of the guy that did almost every contract and managed the cap completely. The BoD and CEO tried to then ram Duane Forde down his throat and how did that go. They got rid of the wrong guy who was the stabilizing factor in football ops. Yeah, yeah we all know you love Ross Hodgkinson. Let it go already. I never understood the hate for Ross, but at the same time, I never understood the love. To me, the ultimate testament to his abilities (or lack thereof) was when he was let go -- was he able to surface somewhere else in the CFL? If the answer is no, then he probably wasn't suited to the job. And yet the guy who does the same job in BC, with almost minimal personnel involvement, is a candidate to run our entire football operations according to some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 In an 9 team league it isn't like there is a huge amount of turnover and job opportunities. The only change in the football ops area was in Edmonton. Ryan Wagner who quit because of Tillman returned after Tillman was fired. Otherwise Hodgkinson had a legitimate shot at that position. People want to make things here about love or hate. I don't understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 After reading that article it's evident that: Lawless is promoting Walters. Timing will be an issue for the WFC: - as in acquiring a QB, a top priority. - hiring a HC, we'll probably be in competition with 2 other teams. (Mont & Edm) Miller's target date of Dec1 for hiring a GM affects the decision making of potential candidates if the 1st two priorities are already filled. I can see an applicant living with a QB choice but a HC hiring may derail an applicant's decision. Is that too long to wait to hire a new HC? Miller has spoken with Higgins and Worman(??) Interesting indeed. Miller defined what he wants in a GM, but, to me, it doesn't sound like he has already settled on one, including Walters. billfrank 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluto Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 i think Lawless is right. i also suspect that he might have been given a knowing wink from Miller so that he can run this up the flagpole. in any other season (one without a dispersal draft) and under most other circumstances (like not being desperate for a QB and/or having a lameduck HC) it would virtuallly be a no-brainer to bring in a Higgins-type... but this season is different. and i think that a fast and adaptable organization ought to be able to (as Lawless says) already have a handshake deal with Barker and have had discussed terms with Collaros' agent... and should already have a HC on standby to name the second day of the offseason (after Burke gets relieved of his duties but before the dispersal draft). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 How do you have a HC on standby when some of the best candidates might be involved in the Grey Cup? What if Collaris' agent says I want to wait and see if I get a better deal in free agency? Some real potential hiccups bending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Why can't Miller and Walters handle the expansion draft and hire a GM later in December or early January? Making excuses to avoid making tough decisions already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 I have a hard time following the logic of allowing Walters to hire a coach if he's not the GM in waiting. It would be beyond stupid to have anybody but the new GM do it. I'm ok with Walters if that's who they ultimately decide on, but I really hope they are being truthful about doing a full search before giving it him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBURGESS Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 I'll bet the Bombers are the only pro team of any kind, where a guy can go from a bad special teams coach to AGM to GM in less than a year. iso_55 and blueandgoldguy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Saw a tweet from Penton that he thinks Walters will be the next GM b/c no other viable candidates will be interested. He said they're all worried that Miller will meddle. DR. CFL and NotoriousBIG 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair GM Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 After reading that article it's evident that: Lawless is promoting Walters. Timing will be an issue for the WFC: - as in acquiring a QB, a top priority. - hiring a HC, we'll probably be in competition with 2 other teams. (Mont & Edm) Miller's target date of Dec1 for hiring a GM affects the decision making of potential candidates if the 1st two priorities are already filled. I can see an applicant living with a QB choice but a HC hiring may derail an applicant's decision. Is that too long to wait to hire a new HC? Miller has spoken with Higgins and Worman(??) Interesting indeed. Miller defined what he wants in a GM, but, to me, it doesn't sound like he has already settled on one, including Walters. Miller's had 1/2 a season to chart a course of action and define what he wants. If he has already spoken to the other horses in the running... then there is no reason he shouldn't be able to name a guy on Monday, and move forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mr Dee Posted October 30, 2013 Report Share Posted October 30, 2013 Saw a tweet from Penton that he thinks Walters will be the next GM b/c no other viable candidates will be interested. He said they're all worried that Miller will meddle. And yet interest has already been shown in the position, so which is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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