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Blue Bombers -- 2025/26 Offseason -- Discussion Thread

Per 3downnation, these are our free agents ... basically everyone but Zach, Vaval, Peterson, Clercius, Randolph, Wallace, Pokey Wilson, MCI, Allen, T. Jones, and Leroux the longsnapper.  

Quarterback

Chris Streveler (A)

Running back

Brady Oliveira (N)

Receiver

Kody Case (A)
Nic Demski (N)
Dillon Mitchell (A)
Dalton Schoen (A)
Jerreth Sterns (A)
Keric Wheatfall (A)

OL

Stanley Bryant (A)
Tui Eli (N)
Chris Kolankowski (N)
Eric Lofton (A)
Patrick Neufeld (N)

Defensive line

Willie Jefferson (A)
Cameron Lawson (N)
Tanner Schmekel (N)
Jake Thomas (N)
James Vaughters (A)
Jamal Woods (A)

Linebacker

Tanner Cadwallader (N)
Shayne Gauthier (N)
Kyrie Wilson (A)

Defensive back

Terrell Bonds (A)
Michael Griffin II (A)
Nick Hallett (N)
Evan Holm (A)
Demerio Houston (A)
Redha Kramdi (N)
Enock Makonzo (N)
Deatrick Nichols (A)
Jamal Parker (A)

Specialist

Sergio Castillo (A)
Jamieson Sheahan (G)

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21 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

Don’t see how he fits in with our log jam linebacking core. I know it’s weird to think but he’s 6’1 233, would they consider using him in some schemes as an end?

He hasn't been terribly effective as a pass rusher since he left here, but he does have the basic tools and sneaky upper body strength.

18 minutes ago, blue85gold said:

JSK is two years younger and better than Wilson, so I don't hate it.

Don't know why they re-signed Wilson still though

Agree.

15 minutes ago, BBlink said:

Didn't JSK play some MLB in Hamilton? Could work better over Tony Jones in Jordan Younger's style of defense...blitzing/coverage.

He would. And I think he is finally 100% and stayed healthy last year.

4 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

That's fair. He was also a part of one of the worst defenses in the league. 3 years ago this is a solid signing. History tells us that Wilson will not be a special teamer and that the two LBs they drafted will be kept at the bottom of the depth chart....at least that's what I'm worried about.

Im not sure if he's a wil any more. Maybe in a pinch if you need, but youd be better putting in a DB especially a bigger one.

4 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Absolutely no world exists where JSK is backing up Wilson, at this point of their careers he is a MUCH better LBer.

We went through that exact situation last year though

3 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

I got a sick feeling in my gut that they are only ever going to be allowed to play teams.

They will have to earn their on field reps. If they are good enough to get field time what are the odds that MOS sits NAT players that deserve to play. Never happened yet. Everyone is looking at this addition in terms of a traditional 4-3 defence. I love that we brought in a guy that will solidify a 4 man LBer unit for us. He is a great fit for that.

3 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

He hasn't been terribly effective as a pass rusher since he left here, but he does have the basic tools and sneaky upper body strength.

Agree.

He would. And I think he is finally 100% and stayed healthy last year.

Im not sure if he's a wil any more. Maybe in a pinch if you need, but youd be better putting in a DB especially a bigger one.

We went through that exact situation last year though

That might or might not be true. JSK being better is undeniable.

Glad to get JSK, I was starting to worry that he may end up a RIder.

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50 minutes ago, bigg jay said:

Well this is a confusing one... I feel the same way as when we re-signed Wilson... I like the player, but I don't see the fit

22 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

JSK is an excellent WIL. I am not sure why people are unhappy about this? This literally guarantees that Wilson will be a teamer. This upgrades our LBer corps big time.

and this is what makes it even more confusing... JSK is a better WIL... Ayers is a better teamer.... Woodbey is a better "utility" player... Jones still stays at MLB... Shay and Smith need to start getting some playing time... why is Wilson here??

2 minutes ago, bearpants said:

Well this is a confusing one... I feel the same way as when we re-signed Wilson... I like the player, but I don't see the fit

and this is what makes it even more confusing... JSK is a better WIL... Ayers is a better teamer.... Woodbey is a better "utility" player... Jones still stays at MLB... Shay and Smith need to start getting some playing time... why is Wilson here??

Wilson is here now. Let's see if he makes it through camp. Shay and Smith need to earn playing time, not be given it based on passport/draft status. We play a ton of 3-4. There is ample opportunity to get them on the field even with the IMPs we have. In a 3-4 you need guys like JSK that are sound in every situation. I could see JSK playing a lot of MIKE this year.

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6 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

I am thinking that JSK will be used in a hybrid situational role rotating between WIL and MIKE. Let's not forget that we run a ton of 3-4 so he can be very effective tool for us there.

I think Mike and Jack are more likely. Especially with the number of db/wils we have.

We didn't run a ton of 30 fronts last year. We cut our 30 front usage by about 70% last year from the previous year. It went from our base more than 2/3s of the time to less than 100 snaps.

Maybe JY will bring back the 30, but I think it was a forced evolution of our inability to get any pressure or defend guys in man. We turned away from it soo hard despite still having poor pressure last year, that I don't think JY wants to play a Canadian style of Fangio 6 cover. I think we will gear to get as much pressure as possible with 4-5 rushers, and probably rush the 5th guy or blitz as often as we play a 30 front and rush 3.

Just now, wbbfan said:

I think Mike and Jack are more likely. Especially with the number of db/wils we have.

We didn't run a ton of 30 fronts last year. We cut our 30 front usage by about 70% last year from the previous year. It went from our base more than 2/3s of the time to less than 100 snaps.

Maybe JY will bring back the 30, but I think it was a forced evolution of our inability to get any pressure or defend guys in man. We turned away from it soo hard despite still having poor pressure last year, that I don't think JY wants to play a Canadian style of Fangio 6 cover. I think we will gear to get as much pressure as possible with 4-5 rushers, and probably rush the 5th guy or blitz as often as we play a 30 front and rush 3.

I would have agreed with you but I think that returning to more 30 front is why we paid big for Ceresna and now brought in JSK. At least that seems to be the most logical reason for what we've done in FA...and I don't mind it because we had great success with it in 2024. What you are stating is definitely possible too because JSK can be an effective blitzer. I just look at our personnel right now tho, and it just screams 30.

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6 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

I would have agreed with you but I think that returning to more 30 front is why we paid big for Ceresna and now brought in JSK. At least that seems to be the most logical reason for what we've done in FA...and I don't mind it because we had great success with it in 2024. What you are stating is definitely possible too because JSK can be an effective blitzer. I just look at our personnel right now tho, and it just screams 30.

Makes sense. You really need a stud DT in the middle for a 30 front to be successful. Enter Jake Ceresna.

18 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

They will have to earn their on field reps. If they are good enough to get field time what are the odds that MOS sits NAT players that deserve to play. Never happened yet. Everyone is looking at this addition in terms of a traditional 4-3 defence. I love that we brought in a guy that will solidify a 4 man LBer unit for us. He is a great fit for that.

That might or might not be true. JSK being better is undeniable.

Glad to get JSK, I was starting to worry that he may end up a RIder.

Mos loves over achieving canadians. I have not seen him love the high picks and us school kids (Cahoon style canadians) He likes guys like Kramdi, we've seen a bunch of guys with massive promise who produced in limited use never get much of a shot. Corney, Kongbo, Waggoner, etc.

We have been a 40 Defence for 98% of the time JY and Hall have been here coaching. Would we have just brought in the best 3tech in the league to slide him over to 4i? Would Ceresna come over for that fit? Idk man, that is a much tougher role to play and far more wear.

IF, we are going to be a 30 team to the volume we were in 24, you will see a group of import nose tackles brought in, and another couple canadian undersized DTs who could play the 4i spot. We only have 1 nose on the roster right now in lawson. And we need a 2nd canadian and another guy who can spell him on the dl.

Imo, Jjones was as much a gap, but in an even greater area of need. As a guy who can pass rush.

Just now, Bubba Zanetti said:

Makes sense. You really need a stud DT in the middle for a 30 front to be successful. Enter Jake Ceresna.

I think we will see a lot of Ceresna at DE in a 30 front.

1 minute ago, Bubba Zanetti said:

Makes sense. You really need a stud DT in the middle for a 30 front to be successful. Enter Jake Ceresna.

he is not a 30 front nose tech. Not in his prime, or now. He's a 3tech. If any thing in a 40 you'd slide him to the edge. He has played some snaps in his earlier days on the edge in a 30 and 40 in a pinch.

In all honesty JSK is better and more versatile than Jones and Wilson at this point in careers...so this makes sense if he supplants one right off roster...and the guy he should is Jones...and allow the cdn rooks to get ..earn and maintain reps and also allow one of the intruiging guys brought in with serious upside a chance to develop...does Osh tho have the ability and moreso the acumen to see this and go with best combo based on skill..upside.. versatility?? God no...hes severely handicapped and biased in that regard

Just now, GCn20 said:

I think we will see a lot of Ceresna at DE in a 30 front.

Possible aslong as Lawson can hold his own.

1 minute ago, wbbfan said:

Mos loves over achieving canadians. I have not seen him love the high picks and us school kids (Cahoon style canadians) He likes guys like Kramdi, we've seen a bunch of guys with massive promise who produced in limited use never get much of a shot. Corney, Kongbo, Waggoner, etc.

We have been a 40 Defence for 98% of the time JY and Hall have been here coaching. Would we have just brought in the best 3tech in the league to slide him over to 4i? Would Ceresna come over for that fit? Idk man, that is a much tougher role to play and far more wear.

IF, we are going to be a 30 team to the volume we were in 24, you will see a group of import nose tackles brought in, and another couple canadian undersized DTs who could play the 4i spot. We only have 1 nose on the roster right now in lawson. And we need a 2nd canadian and another guy who can spell him on the dl.

Imo, Jjones was as much a gap, but in an even greater area of need. As a guy who can pass rush.

We have signed a bunch of NT candidates this offseason through recruitment. I disagree on Corney/Kongbo/and Waggoner. All 3 got extensive playing time early in their careers and that was playing behind Westerman/jeffcoat.

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1 minute ago, Bubba Zanetti said:

Possible aslong as Lawson can hold his own.

Lawson is really good. Though his versatility between being able to play all the dt alignments are his greatest strength.

The issue is, you need 800-900 snaps easy from the nose in a 30 front. Lawsons peak is 550. Even if he stepped up to the 800+ and held up, you need insurance policies and some one who can spell him.

3 minutes ago, Booch said:

In all honesty JSK is better and more versatile than Jones and Wilson at this point in careers...so this makes sense if he supplants one right off roster...and the guy he should is Jones...and allow the cdn rooks to get ..earn and maintain reps and also allow one of the intruiging guys brought in with serious upside a chance to develop...does Osh tho have the ability and moreso the acumen to see this and go with best combo based on skill..upside.. versatility?? God no...hes severely handicapped and biased in that regard

The whole off season is winding into the point of, will he or won't he, when it comes to mos finally rostering the best players.

2 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Lawson is really good. Though his versatility between being able to play all the dt alignments are his greatest strength.

The issue is, you need 800-900 snaps easy from the nose in a 30 front. Lawsons peak is 550. Even if he stepped up to the 800+ and held up, you need insurance policies and some one who can spell him.

The whole off season is winding into the point of, will he or won't he, when it comes to mos finally rostering the best players.

sadly...I doubt he will.....again....and be our demise...Walter's so far has literally set him up with a no fail plan, but If there a way...I sure Osh will mess it up...TBD....And I say that as history has shown us that...over and over

If you look at our DL roster as it sits, we have no Dts over 295 lbs. We have 5 DL under 250 lbs. And we have 5 guys who are 270-290. If we wanted to run a 30 base, we would need a couple 300lbs noses, maybe even a starter sliding lawson over, and some ends in the bare minimum range of 260/265-280lbs range.

4I, the edge in a 30 front is pretty brutal. It's very similar to playing nose, but instead of primarily working an undersized canadian C, you are always working the gap between the biggest imp tackle and a big guard.

7 minutes ago, Booch said:

In all honesty JSK is better and more versatile than Jones and Wilson at this point in careers...so this makes sense if he supplants one right off roster...and the guy he should is Jones...and allow the cdn rooks to get ..earn and maintain reps and also allow one of the intruiging guys brought in with serious upside a chance to develop...does Osh tho have the ability and moreso the acumen to see this and go with best combo based on skill..upside.. versatility?? God no...hes severely handicapped and biased in that regard

The question of who will MOS roster is legit. I am pretty stoked that Walters is bringing in guys that are legit enough to make him look foolish if he doesn't utilize them. No offense to J.Jones last year but JSK is a guy that if you keep him out of the lineup, then the HC has to draw some legit fire. If anything, it demonstrates that Walters is in control of who is getting signed again.

1 minute ago, Booch said:

sadly...I doubt he will.....again....and be our demise...Walter's so far has literally set him up with a no fail plan, but If there a way...I sure Osh will mess it up...TBD....And I say that as history has shown us that...over and over

I don't think we are going to run the 30 base. So it won't be too bad. But we still need bodies on the DL at every role and both passports.

I know we have some good imp DL on our NL. We will see what floods in the form of rookies.

1 minute ago, wbbfan said:

If you look at our DL roster as it sits, we have no Dts over 295 lbs. We have 5 DL under 250 lbs. And we have 5 guys who are 270-290. If we wanted to run a 30 base, we would need a couple 300lbs noses, maybe even a starter sliding lawson over, and some ends in the bare minimum range of 260/265-280lbs range.

4I, the edge in a 30 front is pretty brutal. It's very similar to playing nose, but instead of primarily working an undersized canadian C, you are always working the gap between the biggest imp tackle and a big guard.

That's where I see Ceresna in the 30.

1 minute ago, wbbfan said:

I don't think we are going to run the 30 base. So it won't be too bad. But we still need bodies on the DL at every role and both passports.

I know we have some good imp DL on our NL. We will see what floods in the form of rookies.

Will be interesting for sure.

57 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Absolutely no world exists where JSK is backing up Wilson, at this point of their careers he is a MUCH better LBer.

Haaaaaavvvveeeee you met Osh?

46 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Wilson is here now. Let's see if he makes it through camp. Shay and Smith need to earn playing time, not be given it based on passport/draft status. We play a ton of 3-4. There is ample opportunity to get them on the field even with the IMPs we have. In a 3-4 you need guys like JSK that are sound in every situation. I could see JSK playing a lot of MIKE this year.

They've cut their teeth on special teams. How else are they supposed to earn reps? How many reps do they get at practice?

1 hour ago, Noeller said:

Buddies and I laughing about it being the most Osh move ever... "If our aging vet goes down, we need another equally aging vet to replace him!"

"But Osh, we drafted two young stud LBs that need the reps...."

"Aging Vets!!!"

"Seeee myyy Vets, see my Vets, they're all aging like the rest"

JSK is interesting. He’s better than Kyrie and Jones so I’d suspect 1 of those 2 are being let go or cut or traded.cuz

Kyrie jones jsk Woodbey Ayers lb we just signed Kramdi plus Shay and smith and Novak seems excessive. Cadawallader Is a lb also Jones to Toronto. e5

Something gotta give there.

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1 hour ago, GCn20 said:

We have signed a bunch of NT candidates this offseason through recruitment. I disagree on Corney/Kongbo/and Waggoner. All 3 got extensive playing time early in their careers and that was playing behind Westerman/jeffcoat.

None of the DL we have signed are nose candidates. We have added some to the NL, but not signed any.

Corney only got meaningful snaps when guys were hurt. Kongbo got more, but in roles not suited to development, Waggon was saddled to teams almost exclusively.

JSK, I don't get the move unless JY has dreamed up a defensive alinement with 12 linebackers.

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