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2 hours ago, Noeller said:

It was only ever about usage... He was a perfectly serviceable player, but being asked to do way too much in recent years. 

Perfectly serviceable last year? I’m sorry, that’s way over the top if you’re referring to JT’s play last year. He wasn’t asked to do much other than you know his job. You know it’s okay to admit it had nothing to do with asking him to do too much and he was not perfectly serviceable last year (please see stats) without being accused of being mean to him.

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15 hours ago, Mike said:

Who said he never earned the coaching job? The man who has watched him work his job every day for nearly a decade? Or the grumpy senior citizen who watches him on TV but has a mean streak and a keyboard?

I have a hard time seeing that as earned tho either..and is a kick to the corn flakes to actual coaches working and putting in the time at varying levels

And I not a grumpy senior lol...but coach..train and see what coaches do...could care less how a middling dt acted during his career...irrelevant...

I do have a mean streak tho 😁

12 hours ago, johnzo said:

didn't everyone get the memo?  Kyrie Wilson is the forum whipping boy now.

Nah...he can still play at top level...its durability and stagnating depth behind him

Its Kramdi who def isnt best option for SAM...is not needed for ratio and is gonna be our second highest paid defender likely

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5 hours ago, GCn20 said:

The waste of space stigma while he was a player was totally earned, though not entirely his fault. However, it seems to have carried on into people's objections to him coaching and that is what I was talking about. Some are writing him off as a coach and the guy hasn't coached a game yet. They are translating his last few years as a player as if it directly correlates to how good of a coach he might be. I believe that is unfair.

Why would you not want your HC to pick a guy he believes will do well and that he can work with? HC's always pick their favorites amongst guys they are familiar with, to become their coordinators and position coaches. That's not entitlement.

As a player...he would have been gone off any other roster prob 3..4 yrs ago...at best end roster guy standing around all game in case the other DT's went out...would never had reps at end like here over actual ends either...his lifeline was Osh

I'm sure hes a swell guy..but that doesn't constitute playing time.. and sure he worked hard and was a good teammate.. who here didnt or wasnt? 

Again...not a reason for a 4 yr free ride...the ire he got was justified as he basically sucked for yrs..and i guess osh is to blame partly for that as he enabled it

We've seen a lot of Osh's picks too...player and coach...and some were pathetic and unjustified too...proof is in the puddin that Osh makes a lot of bad picks

But like I said earlier...won't make or break us...just a dumb mercy hire really

3 hours ago, Mark H. said:

Thinking back to the DL when they had Westerman, a younger Jeffcoat, Corney, Nevis, JT rotating, etc. That was a solid group 

Who got the least amount of reps then..when he was actually somewhat adequate for spelling guys off? 

That why was solid...yrs later and half the adequate player he was...he got lions share...plus reps at end over actual ends...do explain the science of that

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2 hours ago, Booch said:

As a player...he would have been gone off any other roster prob 3..4 yrs ago...at best end roster guy standing around all game in case the other DT's went out...would never had reps at end like here over actual ends either...his lifeline was Osh

I'm sure hes a swell guy..but that doesn't constitute playing time.. and sure he worked hard and was a good teammate.. who here didnt or wasnt? 

Again...not a reason for a 4 yr free ride...the ire he got was justified as he basically sucked for yrs..and i guess osh is to blame partly for that as he enabled it

We've seen a lot of Osh's picks too...player and coach...and some were pathetic and unjustified too...proof is in the puddin that Osh makes a lot of bad picks

But like I said earlier...won't make or break us...just a dumb mercy hire really

Who got the least amount of reps then..when he was actually somewhat adequate for spelling guys off? 

That why was solid...yrs later and half the adequate player he was...he got lions share...plus reps at end over actual ends...do explain the science of that

Nothing to explain. They used to do a better job of managing the DL 

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3 hours ago, Mark H. said:

Nothing to explain. They used to do a better job of managing the DL 

The DL used to be our strength when we won two Grey Cups. Since 2021, it's become a throw away position with guys who never would have made those teams in 19 & 21 becoming starters. No desire by Walters, Osh or Younger to rebuild it. Speaking of Younger, I'm actually amazed that he never started an entire defense of defensive backs. 

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