Permission to talk: Is O'Shea leaving?

[HardCoreBlue]

12 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Why? Coach is gonna play slugs like tho.as regardless.  We need to end the country club surrounding this team and value talent as much as intangibles. 

yup it is not an either or it’s both.

[bigg jay]

1 hour ago, Pete said:

yeah but not all cdns players are equal, unless youd like  an even more steady diet of JT

Have those words been used in the same sentence before?

[SpeedFlex27]

14 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Why? Coach is gonna play slugs like tho.as regardless.  We need to end the country club surrounding this team and value talent as much as intangibles. 

Hey c'mon. We're soooo negative here. Rejoice!! The Canadian Mafia are back running things. The Besties are back for 3 freaking years.

[Tracker]

1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Hey c'mon. We're soooo negative here. Rejoice!! The Canadian Mafia are back running things. The Besties are back for 3 freaking years.

I think we will have a bit of improvement at the beginning of next year followed by a descent back to the same old, same old. Forced compliance rarel;y produces transformation, and O'Shea will see his 3 year contract as a validation of his modus operandi.

Edited 23 hours ago by Tracker

[Pete]

OShea has always done it according to some formula in his head, but this upcoming year I'm hoping (maybe unrealsitically) he and Walters take a good hard look at what went wrong in '25 that we finished 4th in the western conference. And what is needed to change.

  Our offense was disjointed and lacked direction.  Our oline wasn't good enough. Our dline was in the bottom 3rd of the league.

(hard work +Experience) > talent     

Edited 20 hours ago by Pete

[HardCoreBlue]

48 minutes ago, Pete said:

OShea has always done it according to some formula in his head, but this upcoming year I'm hoping (maybe unrealsitically) he and Walters take a good hard look at what went wrong in '25 that we finished 4th in the western conference. And what is needed to change.

  Our offense was disjointed and lacked direction.  Our oline wasn't good enough. Our dline was in the bottom 3rd of the league.

(hard work +Experience) > talent     

Dline bottom third? uh dead last no?

[Booch]

On 2025-11-17 at 9:46 AM, GCn20 said:

I don't care what Osh told him. Walters wears the GM title not Osh. If a RB wants 250k per year, it's up to the GM to go back to the coach and say we couldn't get a reasonable deal done, let's move to plan B. You don't blow your brains out on albatross contracts just because the coach really would like a guy back. That's nonsense.

so you want a rift between your G.M and H.C?....No trust in his judgement...after all he is the coach and should see talent/value

I agree tho Walter's needs to take more ownership and tell osh for a lack of better word's to "eff off" in some of his ideas

On 2025-11-17 at 10:59 AM, 17to85 said:

We routinely played more Canadians than required so does it matter if we don't use the advantage?

YEAH...we dont have to play a Canadian RB...We choose to

21 hours ago, Pete said:

yeah but not all cdns players are equal, unless youd like  an even more steady diet of JT

again...back to coach's eye for talent

Kramdi..Thomas..Kolo...Hallett getting major reps...Corcorran...Korny...none those guys would get reps elsewhere like here...I cant see any starting anywhere else....Do a better job with your canadian talent and dont focus on ST only guys...Talented players can play teams....Untalented players who only can play teams dont make adequate backups let alone starters

 

15 hours ago, Pete said:

OShea has always done it according to some formula in his head, but this upcoming year I'm hoping (maybe unrealsitically) he and Walters take a good hard look at what went wrong in '25 that we finished 4th in the western conference. And what is needed to change.

  Our offense was disjointed and lacked direction.  Our oline wasn't good enough. Our dline was in the bottom 3rd of the league.

(hard work +Experience) > talent     

I think you meant what went wrong starting on 2023....that may be a better way to fix it...and stop referencing back to 2019-2021...Osh still lives there

Edited 4 hours ago by Booch

[GCn20]

36 minutes ago, Booch said:

so you want a rift between your G.M and H.C?....No trust in his judgement...after all he is the coach and should see talent/value

I agree tho Walter's needs to take more ownership and tell osh for a lack of better word's to "eff off" in some of his ideas

YEAH...we dont have to play a Canadian RB...We choose to

again...back to coach's eye for talent

Kramdi..Thomas..Kolo...Hallett getting major reps...Corcorran...Korny...none those guys would get reps elsewhere like here...I cant see any starting anywhere else....Do a better job with your canadian talent and dont focus on ST only guys...Talented players can play teams....Untalented players who only can play teams dont make adequate backups let alone starters

 

I think you meant what went wrong starting on 2023....that may be a better way to fix it...and stop referencing back to 2019-2021...Osh still lives there

If a rift is necessary, then a rift it must be. If that rift can't be navigated someone has to go. I would rather Walters do his job, and if the situation were to become untenable then do what else is necessary. I don't buy into the notion that Walters must be OSH's puppet for harmony. That's a cop out for Walters not doing his job.

[Wanna-B-Fanboy]

Does Hogan have any more time left on his contract?

[johnzo]

On 2025-11-12 at 3:46 PM, wbbfan said:

This schism exists in all areas of sports, but it’s seldom talked about. Some people love to win, others hate to lose. That’s the major divide we’ve seen among bomber fans since we started gifting gc wins to teams starting mediocre back up qbs. 

huh, yeah, that's an elegant way to put it.  nice.

[sweep the leg]

On 2025-11-17 at 9:52 AM, GCn20 said:

Totally agree. You can make exceptions if you get a real good deal on a QB or something but if you have a top 3 QB salary in the league you shouldn't be paying a premium at RB. 850k in combined salary for the guys standing behind salary is a recipe for a lot weakness, or lack of depth elsewhere. We've seen it. The proof is in the pudding. The guys that are clamoring for BO saying we are nothing without him are ignoring the fact that our overall offence has sucked since the Collaros/BO mega contracts were signed. BO is an awesome RB, but he was paid almost double what the guy who lead the league in rushing this year made. We obviously can get his production or close to it for a fraction of the price.

 

Was Harris not the highest paid rb in the league when we won back to back Cups?

[GCn20]

15 minutes ago, sweep the leg said:

Was Harris not the highest paid rb in the league when we won back to back Cups?

Yes, was our QB the highest paid? Nope. Was AH making 250k a season. Nope. I have zero issues with BO being the highest paid RB. It's all about by how much, and whether we have that luxury.

Edited 2 hours ago by GCn20

[sweep the leg]

25 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Yes, was our QB the highest paid? Nope. Was AH making 250k a season. Nope. I have zero issues with BO being the highest paid RB. It's all about by how much, and whether we have that luxury.

Collaros was third this year behind Rourke and Kelly. He was fourth in 2021. 

Starting qb & rb were 12% of cap in 2021 and 14% this year. Not that different. Strangely enough, or fb in 2021 was the third highest paid rb (Mike Miller).