3 stars plus hh offensive offence

[rebusrankin]

28 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

lapo must’ve been confused. neither 18 or 19. he didn’t have a game with 11 attempts or completions. 10/20 in the bjb with 2 picks in 19, but i think that was in relief. clearly not on purpose to only complete 10 either way. 9/15 in the finale but he didn’t play the whole game. 7/17 when he came in in relief in 19 and started his stretch. 

The 19 stretch chris played he was attempting 25-40 passes a game. think lapo forgot that. 

August 24, 2019, he was 7 of 17 for 89 yards. We won 34-28. He also rushed for 95 and a TD.

[ShyGuy]

45 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Zach is very far from being a perennial mop candidate. he was brutal all year last year too. he struggled down the stretch in 23 due to injury and has never been the same. 

 

From last year past week 11

QB A: 190/262 2392 Yards, 13/6 TDs/INTs

QB B: 177/260, 2318 Yards, 13/7 TDs/INTs

One of those is Collaros. One of those is the QB who won the all-star nod in the West (Harris). Yeah Collaros was buoyed by a great game against the Elks... but he also had an outrageous game against the Riders in the West Final as well. He had a horrendous start to the year, and then finished pretty strong IMO. The problem is the Bombers have a MOP calibre player in Oliveira, but get away from him and let Zach gunsling it. If we were to play a bit more conservative I think the Bombers would be more successful (when he is playing which has been an issue this year)

[Goalie]

But tonight Streveler completed less than 1 pass a quarter. You just can’t justify it. 3 of 8. That’s under 50 percent. With a pick. I mean. We won because Vaval and cam Allen. 

[Goalie]

What’s the over under on Strev passes vs Hamilton. 

[sportmentary2012]

32 minutes ago, Goalie said:

What’s the over under on Strev passes vs Hamilton. 

I.hope it is under 8 as that seems to be the key to victory 🤣

[Eternal optimist]

3 hours ago, 17to85 said:

What lapo said was they won a game with 11 completions.

I think he just misremembered the stat line. The Redblacks of 2021season (which LaPo coached) he was 12/20 for 71 yards with a longest completion of 15 yards in their season opener.

https://www.cfl.ca/games/6137/ottawa-redblacks-vs-edmonton-elks/

Saying it was planned makes sense, this was after Nichols shoulder surgery and it was clear his arm strength was waning.

[SpeedFlex27]

2 hours ago, Booch said:

You know how many times that happens in a game...to even the "great" qbs?

 

His schemes and his route creations...and where and how he layers them is garbage...where there is minimal options and many times multiple guys in same area...easy to defend...and easy to get recievers killed...as we seen today

Zero options for blitz beaters or quick passes...first game yr we had a lot of ball out quick passes..not now

ZC has thrown a Hella lot suicide and hospital balls too...and panics just as much in pocket with any sign of possible collapse...he usually throws a pick or gets sacked...at least Strev gets a yard or 2 on those 

Or offense is so easy to scheme against and its pretty apparent minimal coaching is going on...and 14 games in..I have yet to see any adjustments to original gameplan....or to flow of game

Coaching I say again here...on several levels...fails us week in and out

And yup we won...despite it...

After today, I'll never complain about Zach again. I appreciate him now like I never have before.

[Brandon]

Fun stat....

Streveler in his career with the Blue has only 2 games with more then 250 yards.

Jake Dolegala in one season with the riders had 5 games with more then 250 yards ,  the next season Shea Patterson with the Riders had 4 games himself with over 250 yards.    

We cut two of those guys and kept the wrong one.    

 

[SectionKBlackout]

They didn't leave a lasting impression like Strev did in 2019. Once oshea finds his guys they can do no wrong.

[rebusrankin]

Brady churning out a 100 yards under those circumstances is noteworthy. Guy is a gem.

[wbbfan]

11 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

August 24, 2019, he was 7 of 17 for 89 yards. We won 34-28. He also rushed for 95 and a TD.

yes, but that’s not nearly 11 completion or attempts. 

11 hours ago, ShyGuy said:

From last year past week 11

QB A: 190/262 2392 Yards, 13/6 TDs/INTs

QB B: 177/260, 2318 Yards, 13/7 TDs/INTs

One of those is Collaros. One of those is the QB who won the all-star nod in the West (Harris). Yeah Collaros was buoyed by a great game against the Elks... but he also had an outrageous game against the Riders in the West Final as well. He had a horrendous start to the year, and then finished pretty strong IMO. The problem is the Bombers have a MOP calibre player in Oliveira, but get away from him and let Zach gunsling it. If we were to play a bit more conservative I think the Bombers would be more successful (when he is playing which has been an issue this year)

divisional all star is not close to the same as perennial mop, and 1/3 of a season does not an mop or all star make. 

2/3 of a year is not the start to a year. 

Let’s look further at his season last week 11. 

3 games under 202 yards. 

4 games with as many or more picks than tds 

2 games over 250 yards passing 

6 tds in 7 games then 1 game with 6 tds and 430 yards passing. 

The second half of last year is massively padded by the 1 game against edmonton. Take that out and in the final stretch of the year he had 1900 yards 7 TDS 6 ints. 3 good games, 3 ok games, 11 bad games. 

 

Unfortunately, Zach isn’t a game manager. If he could be a strong game manager getting the ball out quickly that would help off set issues a lot. but he just isn’t that guy. 

[wbbfan]

8 hours ago, Brandon said:

Fun stat....

Streveler in his career with the Blue has only 2 games with more then 250 yards.

Jake Dolegala in one season with the riders had 5 games with more then 250 yards ,  the next season Shea Patterson with the Riders had 4 games himself with over 250 yards.    

We cut two of those guys and kept the wrong one.    

 

no games over 250 since 19 either. And none of his games or 250 or more have even the same number of tds as ints. Since the end of 18, he’s had 2 games with more tds than picks. 

9 hours ago, Eternal optimist said:

I think he just misremembered the stat line. The Redblacks of 2021season (which LaPo coached) he was 12/20 for 71 yards with a longest completion of 15 yards in their season opener.

https://www.cfl.ca/games/6137/ottawa-redblacks-vs-edmonton-elks/

Saying it was planned makes sense, this was after Nichols shoulder surgery and it was clear his arm strength was waning.

he was talking about strev though yeah? Maybe that’s what he was confusing. i mean that is 4 years ago and a hell of a lot has happened in that time lol. 

[Noeller]

Yes Lapo was talking about Strev specifically... Was just pointing out that it's possible to win with him throwing very little because they'd done it before.

Edited 27 minutes ago by Noeller

[kelownabomberfan]

15 hours ago, JohnnyAbonny said:

That one’s up there too, as is the 2021 west final, but after thinking about it, it’s gotta be today’s game. 
 

I’ve can’t remember a CFL QB attempting only 8 passes or the winning team being out thrown by 350 yards.

We need to change our name to the "Winnipeg Rugby Club", as we don't do forward passes. 

The good news is that Strev only has to play until 2095 to break Calvillo's passing record.