GDT Bombers east vs Stumps

[wpgallday1960]

I anticipated much better games yesterday.  Both were duds, IMO.  Ford is stil a work in progress at QB.  Seem to only have success running with the ball or scrambling then making a throw 

[Fatty Liver]

12 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

If I was an Elks fan, having Ford as the starter would drive me nuts. His play at qb is all over the place. There's no consistency, rhyme or reason to how he plays qb. Ford makes an outstanding play that takes 18 seconds to run as he makes chicken salad out of chicken feathers. But for every 1 big play he makes, he makes 5 lousy ones. Just watching him, it's all based on athletic ability & not on football smarts. I think by mid season, he'll be sitting again & Fajardo the starter with the Elks at 1-8 or 2-7.

Ford won't have any receivers left by season's end.

Ford looks more like Tyrie Adams than a guy ready for the #1 job, he either doesn't fully understand the strategic purpose of the routes his receivers are running or can't commit to the play being called.  Similar to his brother he seems to have a semi-focus on the play and over relies on his athleticism, which makes everything look like sandlot.

12 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

If I was an Elks fan, having Ford as the starter would drive me nuts. His play at qb is all over the place. There's no consistency, rhyme or reason to how he plays qb. Ford makes an outstanding play that takes 18 seconds to run as he makes chicken salad out of chicken feathers. But for every 1 big play he makes, he makes 5 lousy ones. Just watching him, it's all based on athletic ability & not on football smarts. I think by mid season, he'll be sitting again & Fajardo the starter with the Elks at 1-8 or 2-7.

Ford won't have any receivers left by season's end.

Ford looks more like Tyrie Adams than a guy ready for the #1 job, he either doesn't fully understand the strategic purpose of the routes his receivers are running or can't commit to the play being called.  Similar to his brother he seems to have a semi-focus on the play and over relies on his athleticism, which makes everything look like sandlot.

[Booch]

Just now, Fatty Liver said:

Ford looks more like Tyrie Adams than a guy ready for the #1 job, he either doesn't fully understand the strategic purpose of the routes his receivers are running or can't commit to the play being called.  Similar to his brother he seems to have a semi-focus on the play and over relies on his athleticism, which makes everything look like sandlot.

 Not to mention having an underwhelming receiving corps...doest help...no real legit game breaker

And did i see that right...B.C was rolling a 4 import oline?? 

[Bigblue204]

9 minutes ago, Booch said:

 Not to mention having an underwhelming receiving corps...doest help...no real legit game breaker

And did i see that right...B.C was rolling a 4 import oline?? 

They did. Is chungh hurt?

[Atomic]

17 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

They did. Is chungh hurt?

He is a free agent, maybe done with football. David Foucault and Anu Una are injured.

[Fatty Liver]

47 minutes ago, Atomic said:

He is a free agent, maybe done with football. David Foucault and Anu Una are injured.

...and they still haven't brought Chungh back, it's got to be about more than just money.

[bearpants]

48 minutes ago, Atomic said:

He is a free agent, maybe done with football. David Foucault and Anu Una are injured.

Is this the first ever palindrome to play in the CFL??

[SpeedFlex27]

1 hour ago, Booch said:

 Not to mention having an underwhelming receiving corps...doest help...no real legit game breaker

And did i see that right...B.C was rolling a 4 import oline?? 

Where's the great Sukh Chungh? 

2 hours ago, Booch said:

 Not to mention having an underwhelming receiving corps...doest help...no real legit game breaker

And did i see that right...B.C was rolling a 4 import oline?? 

Gittens could have signed with us. Or stayed in Toronto. he'll be lucky to break 500 yards in Edmonton. Even with a game breaker I doubt it would make much of a difference. With Ford in there running wild & improvising that whole offense is a cluster****. 

[SpeedFlex27]

1 hour ago, Atomic said:

He is a free agent, maybe done with football. David Foucault and Anu Una are injured.

Foucault is just so bad. His passport keeps him employed in the CFL. 

[SpeedFlex27]

13 hours ago, Nolby said:

He didnt target his head at all, you could see the Lions db put his right shoulder out and collided with the chest of the Elks receiver. The collision itself knocked the helmets off, not from a targeting.

I don't know what game you saw last night but that was or nearly was a helmet to helmet hit. If the DB did use his shoulder it was right at or near the head. Rough play was the right call. In this era of football, that's called every time. 

[Booch]

3 hours ago, Bigblue204 said:

They did. Is chungh hurt?

Yeah I was wondering..must be..he still there correct? Or was? 

 

3 hours ago, Atomic said:

He is a free agent, maybe done with football. David Foucault and Anu Una are injured.

Ahh...explains that absence then

 

1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Where's the great Sukh Chungh? 

Gittens could have signed with us. Or stayed in Toronto. he'll be lucky to break 500 yards in Edmonton. Even with a game breaker I doubt it would make much of a difference. With Ford in there running wild & improvising that whole offense is a cluster****. 

Yeah...Ford is more a gimmick guy than people claimed Strev was

Ford may have a few games where he wins..mainly from running around and getting lucky shots with guys busting coverage to cheat on the scrambling...but I don't see him being anything better than a .500 QB

1 hour ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

I don't know what game you saw last night but that was or nearly was a helmet to helmet hit. If the DB did use his shoulder it was right at or near the head. Rough play was the right call. In this era of football, that's called every time. 

Awe in typical fashion was doing...or trying to do that as well but missed..

[WinnipegGordo]

 

 

[SpeedFlex27]

6 hours ago, WinnipegGordo said:

 

 

If you pause the video at the time of the hit you can see it's helmet to helmet. The Lions get called for rough play & they celebrate a head shot on X. 

[TBURGESS]

3 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

If you pause the video at the time of the hit you can see it's helmet to helmet. The Lions get called for rough play & they celebrate a head shot on X. 

Disagree. It's shoulder to chest first. 

[bigg jay]

11 minutes ago, TBURGESS said:

Disagree. It's shoulder to chest first. 

Contact with the head first IMO but it's almost simultaneous.  Williams right shoulder is chin level at the moment of contact but comes down to chest level as he is exploding through.  The receiver did duck into it a bit so I'm not sure what else Williams could have done.

[3rdand1.5]

My 2 cents

 

Rourke while I get nauseated listening to TSN talk about him....he did play well; he looked better than he did last year....Next week will say a lot about Rourke IMO...hopefully we bring him crashing down to earth and the turf

Ford is not a QB, he is a great athlete and can "sandlot" with the best of them.....the only time he looked like a QB was when he was like 10 yards back and rolled out to the wide side......not sustainable

Betts gifted Edm. most of their early offensive numbers.....He is quick, I will give him that, but dude you ain't catching Tre Ford....but stubborn is as stubborn does he kept trying and failing miserably allowing ford an unobstructed easy rollout.....I still say Betts has a great motor and is really quick but the guy just can't contain or be patient against the run....His career so far is one trick pony

I am happy for Buck to get his first win....I just hope his second win is at least a couple weeks away.....

 

[JuranBoldenRules]

1 hour ago, bigg jay said:

Contact with the head first IMO but it's almost simultaneous.  Williams right shoulder is chin level at the moment of contact but comes down to chest level as he is exploding through.  The receiver did duck into it a bit so I'm not sure what else Williams could have done.

TSN producers really didn't want to bother showing any good replays of that hit.

Issue for tackler here is hit vs form.  You launch yourself into a guys upper body in this era you're probably taking a penalty.  You dive at his knee/shins without the guy having a chance to react, you're getting a penalty.  So make a tackle with your chest plate and a wrap.

The launch here is the real problem.  And any head contact is called.  Doesn't matter at all what touched first or where the target was.

[HardCoreBlue]

2 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

TSN producers really didn't want to bother showing any good replays of that hit.

Issue for tackler here is hit vs form.  You launch yourself into a guys upper body in this era you're probably taking a penalty.  You dive at his knee/shins without the guy having a chance to react, you're getting a penalty.  So make a tackle with your chest plate and a wrap.

The launch here is the real problem.  And any head contact is called.  Doesn't matter at all what touched first or where the target was.

That doesn't seem to make its way into the pro leagues for some.

[TBURGESS]

Initial contact matters, but any hit to the head is in the rule book, so I take my complaint back. 

Quote

1. Using the helmet as the initial or primary point of contact to butt, ram, spear, or deliver a blow to an opponent who is in a vulnerable position, including but not limited to, a passer, a receiver in the act of catching a pass, a ball carrier in the grasp of another tackler or a ball carrier on the playing surface not attempting to advance,

   NOTE: The expanded definitions of butt, ram and spear are:

   Butt: When a player suddenly and quickly moves their head to strike an opponent with their helmet or face mask.

   Ram: When a player who is in motion and on their feet uses their helmet as the primary point of contact to deliver a blow to an opponent. If the facemask is the initial point of contact on the opponent, it shall not be a penalty under this rule.

   Spear: When a player uses the top of their helmet as the primary point of contact to deliver a blow to an opponent.

2. Delivering a blow to an opponent in the neck or head,

[17to85]

Bottom line Ford was serving up suicide passes to his receivers... he better figure his **** out before he gets someone killed.

[Arnold_Palmer]

56 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

Bottom line Ford was serving up suicide passes to his receivers... he better figure his **** out before he gets someone killed.

He’s just straight up not a starting QB in this league. Par that with an average st best receiving core, I think offensively the Elks are going to be in tough again this season. 

[johnzo]

Betts vs. Ford was kind of the perfect storm of Suitor hype.  Two massively talented Canadians who get by on their athleticism chasing each other around the field...

Edited 2 hours ago by johnzo

[Brandon]

34 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

He’s just straight up not a starting QB in this league. Par that with an average st best receiving core, I think offensively the Elks are going to be in tough again this season. 

The Tre Ford bandwagon of saying he's not  CFL QB material needs to stop right now.   People are way over reacting on how good/bad he is.     If he's not a CFL QB and garbage then what does that make Strevy?  Why are people on here not equally outraged that we kept Strev despite him having crappier stats while playing on a significantly better team with way better coaching?    

 

 

Tre is still a work in progress and has had rough moments,  but to suggest that he will never be anything all while being confident that Strev is the man is hypocritical.    

Money/contracts being ignored the Blue Bombers would be in a way better position if they had a much more athletic and younger QB then what they currently have as a back up.  

[johnzo]

4 minutes ago, Brandon said:

 Why are people on here not equally outraged that we kept Strev despite him having crappier stats while playing on a significantly better team with way better coaching?    

I think the MBB answer to this question is that Strevy didn't have significantly better coaching -- particularly last year when Buck mistook him for a snowplow and got him hurt early in the season.

We'll see if that take is for real on Thursday night. 

[Bigblue204]

I mean...just watch the games? I don't know. Strevs game against OTT last year....there is generally this thing called "game plans". Against ott it was pretty clearly...run and run and run and pass no further than 20yards. Then run some more. If that doesn't work...we're gonna run. 

Ford has never been given that game plan in any game. His coaches have never put him in a position where he was EXPECTED to run over a LB. I'm not even debating this...it's clear as day (not this year though cause of all the smoke...like a clear day in 2003).

Saying that...this is very much a make it or break it season for Strev. He needs to prove people wrong, starting Thursday. And Ford if given the opportunity will develop into a solid CFL qb imo.

Edited 2 hours ago by Bigblue204