2025 CFL (Non-Bombers) Season

[Stickem]

1 hour ago, Brandon said:

 

Why is Willson employed? Reading his other posts he's extremely childish and acts like a baby whenever anyone calls him out.   Get rid of him ASAP.  

Absolutely.....you don't tangle with a legend like Bob....Willson is coming across like a punk who needs his arse kicked

[Brandon]

26 minutes ago, Stickem said:

Absolutely.....you don't tangle with a legend like Bob....Willson is coming across like a punk who needs his arse kicked

Taking off the Blue tinted glasses ... I still have heard absolutely nothing but praise for Bob over the years and the word "legendary" usually attached to his name.  I've never heard anyone (with exception of Mike Kelly) have a cross word or any sort of negativity attached to Bob.  

[Stickem]

13 minutes ago, Brandon said:

Taking off the Blue tinted glasses ... I still have heard absolutely nothing but praise for Bob over the years and the word "legendary" usually attached to his name.  I've never heard anyone (with exception of Mike Kelly) have a cross word or any sort of negativity attached to Bob.  

yeah....I remember Kelly dumping on Bob ,,,and 'Mr., being handled internally' slinked out of town trying to hide his mugshot.............. AND Bob...is still holding his head high

[HardCoreBlue]

3 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

Wilson is a Canadian version of Pat McAfee who TSN apparently wants to appeal to the ****** Bro demographic. 

Wilson? Never heard of him.

[Rich]

Pruned some posts.  Lets get the discussion back to football.  Thanks.

[HardCoreBlue]

13 hours ago, Rich said:

Pruned some posts.  Lets get the discussion back to football.  Thanks.

Well I see scrooge has arrived on the scene. Love you. Go Blue!

[wbbfan]

wilson’s sources; trust me bro. 

He’s not gonna find any one in the cfl circles who has a grudge with bob. 

Wilson has made good points a couple times this year, but he’s way off more than he’s right.  

He’s the tsn version of stephen a, and all that ilk. 

[SpeedFlex27]

On 2025-12-26 at 2:05 PM, Stickem said:

yeah....I remember Kelly dumping on Bob ,,,and 'Mr., being handled internally' slinked out of town trying to hide his mugshot.............. AND Bob...is still holding his head high

Kelly regrets what he did. When you're under a lot of pressure you do & say things you regret later. We've all done that. After 43 years Bomber fans have forgiven Dieter Brock for his behaviour when he demaded his contract be renegotiated, missed training camp & wanted out to go to the NFL. Brock regretted being an ass towards the Bombers & his fans. People get older & they mature. I was pissed at Dieter when that happened but no more. He was pretty clear in his book that he made a mistake & was sorry. I think if fans can forgive Brock then we can give Kelly a break. It's been nearly 20 years. 

Edited yesterday at 12:02 AM by SpeedFlex27

[wbbfan]

16 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Kelly regrets what he did. When you're under a lot of pressure you do & say things you regret later. We've all done that. After 43 years Bomber fans have forgiven Dieter Brock for his behaviour when he demaded his contract be renegotiated, missed training camp & wanted out to go to the NFL. Brock regretted being an ass towards the Bombers & his fans. People get older & they mature. I was pissed at Dieter when that happened but no more. He was pretty clear in his book that he made a mistake & was sorry. I think if fans can forgive Brock then we can give Kelly a break. It's been nearly 20 years. 

kelly made a whole lot more than one mistake. I hope he finds a road to better mental health and stability. He certainly doesn’t deserve any thing from bomber fans.  

He left a far more significant black eye for the fan base and franchise than Reinbold. Jeff was a colossal screw up football ops wise, but atleast he was a good person who upheld the expectations that come with leadership. 

[Noeller]

Reinebold was just a bad coach with a bad program. Kelly proved to be a terrible human being, blinded by wild arrogance. 

[HardCoreBlue]

4 hours ago, wbbfan said:

kelly made a whole lot more than one mistake. I hope he finds a road to better mental health and stability. He certainly doesn’t deserve any thing from bomber fans.  

He left a far more significant black eye for the fan base and franchise than Reinbold. Jeff was a colossal screw up football ops wise, but atleast he was a good person who upheld the expectations that come with leadership. 

Sports wise, my biggest irritant with him was how he straight armed us fans. Sorry that’s not how a team representing a province works. It was just the oddest and most bizarre thing to do.

[johnzo]

4 hours ago, Noeller said:

Reinebold was just a bad coach with a bad program. Kelly proved to be a terrible human being, blinded by wild arrogance. 

have been watching some 1997 Bomber games as CFL Classics has been posting them.

Just watched the Toronto v. Bombers game where Reinebold rolled out Dexter Dawson as a DB.  Pinball and Flutie absolutely pants him.  

(the offseason is so brutal I can't believe I'm watching 97 Bomber games to get my fix)

[SpeedFlex27]

6 hours ago, wbbfan said:

kelly made a whole lot more than one mistake. I hope he finds a road to better mental health and stability. He certainly doesn’t deserve any thing from bomber fans.  

He left a far more significant black eye for the fan base and franchise than Reinbold. Jeff was a colossal screw up football ops wise, but atleast he was a good person who upheld the expectations that come with leadership. 

Kelly has found a better road. He's found happiness but has regrets for what happened. Brock & his agent Giol Scott were acting like total asshats when he wanted out of Winnipeg. He did what he could to get out of his contract so he could sign as a free agent in the NFL. When he was in LA with the Rams, he wished he was back here with the Bombers. 

2 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Sports wise, my biggest irritant with him was how he straight armed us fans. Sorry that’s not how a team representing a province works. It was just the oddest and most bizarre thing to do.

Yeah, Kelly made some mistakes but he never killed or hurt anyone. He said some dumb things & acted badly. Obviously, he was struggling with both his personal & professional life. I think he was going thru a bad patch in his life. But like I said that was 20 years ago... 

[rebusrankin]

Ottawa traded for LB Nyles Morgan yesterday. Edmonton gets a 3rd and a 4th.

[SpeedFlex27]

Leave it to Hervey to trade someone right over Xmas disrupting his family. Couldn't wait till after New Years. 

[wbbfan]

2 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

Ottawa traded for LB Nyles Morgan yesterday. Edmonton gets a 3rd and a 4th.

he’s a solid pick up for what is likely two guys who don’t make edmonton next year. 

 I really don’t get how teams set value for draft picks in the cfl in relation to starters.

I get edmonton is trying to get as many lotto tickets as possible in hopes of fixing their ni depth, and ott is going to try any thing to be good this year. I just don’t get timing and value. 

[Stickem]

As far as Kelly goes....I think people in general can forgive someone when they make mistakes....however when someone acts arrogant while making those mistakes....welll it paints that individual with a different brush.....one of being not only arrogant but ignorant.....I hope Kelly has changed his ways....He sure blew it here and a lot of Bomber fans have looong memories....myself being one of them...As far as Brock goes and his insulting comment about the Peg, when he said....'well you can only go to the zoo so many times' hurt a lot of fans.....There's more to the city than what he was intimating and it sure was a bull$hit comment...Anyway...onward and upward as they say ....we all move on

[SpeedFlex27]

3 hours ago, Stickem said:

As far as Kelly goes....I think people in general can forgive someone when they make mistakes....however when someone acts arrogant while making those mistakes....welll it paints that individual with a different brush.....one of being not only arrogant but ignorant.....I hope Kelly has changed his ways....He sure blew it here and a lot of Bomber fans have looong memories....myself being one of them...As far as Brock goes and his insulting comment about the Peg, when he said....'well you can only go to the zoo so many times' hurt a lot of fans.....There's more to the city than what he was intimating and it sure was a bull$hit comment...Anyway...onward and upward as they say ....we all move on

Another CFL great said some bad things about Winnipeg when he was traded to the Argos from the Bombers. D i c k Thornton was angry that he never got a chance to compete for the starting qb position with Ken Ploen (as he thought he was much better) & was an All Canadian Safety with the Bombers.

He once paid a bunch of kids to carry signs around Winnipeg Stadium during a game saying, "We Want Thornton!" His blow ups on the practice field & Coaches office with Bud Grant were well known. Grant grew tired of the guy's antics & traded him to the Argos who were the worst team in the CFL at the time to teach him a lesson during the 1966 season. Thornton said to the Winnipeg media  when he left, "The best thing about Winnipeg are the roads leading out of it."

Interestingly enough, after Grant left Winnipeg at the end of 1966, he contacted Thornton & offered him a SS position on the MInnesota Vikings. The team he took over from Norm Van Brocklin. No offer to try to unseat Joe Kapp was forthcoming from Grant. Thornton declined & stayed with the Argos feeling his chances to make more $$ in the CFL was better than the Vikings as he was established. Thornton, I believe, never had another thing more to do with the Blue Bombers even as an Alumni.

Edited 4 hours ago by SpeedFlex27

[Tracker]

7 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Leave it to Hervey to trade someone right over Xmas disrupting his family. Couldn't wait till after New Years. 

Morgan was almost certainly home with his loved ones, so the disruption would be minimal, if at all.

5 hours ago, Stickem said:

As far as Kelly goes....I think people in general can forgive someone when they make mistakes....however when someone acts arrogant while making those mistakes....welll it paints that individual with a different brush.....one of being not only arrogant but ignorant.....I hope Kelly has changed his ways....He sure blew it here and a lot of Bomber fans have looong memories....myself being one of them...As far as Brock goes and his insulting comment about the Peg, when he said....'well you can only go to the zoo so many times' hurt a lot of fans.....There's more to the city than what he was intimating and it sure was a bull$hit comment...Anyway...onward and upward as they say ....we all move on

Yes, we all make mistakes, but if someone repeats the same mistakes over a long period in defiance of negative consequences for self or others, it is a core personality facet and unlikely to change.

[SpeedFlex27]

2 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Morgan was almost certainly home with his loved ones, so the disruption would be minimal, if at all.

Like being fired at Xmas by your boss. It just isn't done. Till the first or 2nd week of january. Let players, like employees have Xmas with their families.

[Mark H.]

27 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Like being fired at Xmas by your boss. It just isn't done. Till the first or 2nd week of january. Let players, like employees have Xmas with their families.

That's not the same thing. He still has a job and TC is still several months away.

[SpeedFlex27]

6 minutes ago, Mark H. said:

That's not the same thing. He still has a job and TC is still several months away.

I got a job transfer to Calgary in 1990. Let me tell you that it was one of the most stressful things our family ever went thru. It took months to get settled plus my wife was pregnant & due in three months. 

[Mark H.]

3 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

I got a job transfer to Calgary in 1990. Let me tell you that it was one of the most stressful things our family ever went thru. It took months to get settled plus my wife was pregnant & due in three months. 

Fair enough. I guess I don't see how getting the news on Jan. 2 makes it that much different.

[kelownabomberfan]

23 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Kelly regrets what he did. When you're under a lot of pressure you do & say things you regret later. We've all done that. After 43 years Bomber fans have forgiven Dieter Brock for his behaviour when he demaded his contract be renegotiated, missed training camp & wanted out to go to the NFL. Brock regretted being an ass towards the Bombers & his fans. People get older & they mature. I was pissed at Dieter when that happened but no more. He was pretty clear in his book that he made a mistake & was sorry. I think if fans can forgive Brock then we can give Kelly a break. It's been nearly 20 years. 

We got all of our anger against Dieter out of our system watching Tyrone Jones destroy him in the 1984 Grey Cup.