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10 hours ago, Booch said:

Yeah...can't live in past...no reason for his return especially if you have youth...or if someone in FA comes available 

T.Jones too...misleading stats...not outstanding in any aspect...but a great DA to augment the game day roster...no way shape or form should he be pencilled in as a returnerning starter...and only way he won't be is if Osh is removed...history and track record tells us so

And it started with the lowballing of Jeffcoat...and refusal to pay Sayles and Stove and Kongbo...but keep slop like Thomas..Schmeck...Korn...

We have never recovered...same can be said with center...we coulda retained Couture...or signed a FA center if for anything to compete...or tried Eli..who has never got a real opportunity...but chose to roll with an undersized..under skilled scrap heap guy nobody wanted for 2 yrs on the street cause Osh liked whatever it is about him...and its not talent 

 

Can't argue with any of that. Some poor gm work compounded by poor coaching. That is our decline in a nutshell

Posted
25 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

gm mos is worst case ontario 

Probably right that both are back. 

If osh is back...and i hope hes not...but if so...it better be on a short leash and any resemblance as to whats gone on of late...and games that look like this yr...that fire button better be pressed 

I think bringing him back is a huge risk sms wise cause if he just continues as he has..and we need to cut bait...and who really thinks he will change? Then we on hook with money to him on the coaching cap aspect

3 minutes ago, GCn20 said:

Can't argue with any of that. Some poor gm work compounded by poor coaching. That is our decline in a nutshell

Yup...somewhere along the way in 2022 to this yr we lost the plot..the foresight...ability to project and the ability to make the tough decisions...can these 2 get back to that? Maybe? But if they can't and we committ again...only to have to can them...then we really gonna be wandering in the wilderness for a few yrs...they did it before...was it just lightning in a bottle and things just lined up perfect? Or was it from actual things they did...and then got too fat and complacent?? There's arguments for both cases...huge decisions coming here that could affect us for a few yrs running...in either direction..

Posted
24 minutes ago, Booch said:

If osh is back...and i hope hes not...but if so...it better be on a short leash and any resemblance as to whats gone on of late...and games that look like this yr...that fire button better be pressed 

I think bringing him back is a huge risk sms wise cause if he just continues as he has..and we need to cut bait...and who really thinks he will change? Then we on hook with money to him on the coaching cap aspect

Yup...somewhere along the way in 2022 to this yr we lost the plot..the foresight...ability to project and the ability to make the tough decisions...can these 2 get back to that? Maybe? But if they can't and we committ again...only to have to can them...then we really gonna be wandering in the wilderness for a few yrs...they did it before...was it just lightning in a bottle and things just lined up perfect? Or was it from actual things they did...and then got too fat and complacent?? There's arguments for both cases...huge decisions coming here that could affect us for a few yrs running...in either direction..

My opinion is that they can easily get back to where we were at but they need Wadzilla to remind them that we don't live on past results.

Posted
3 hours ago, Booch said:

If osh is back...and i hope hes not...but if so...it better be on a short leash and any resemblance as to whats gone on of late...and games that look like this yr...that fire button better be pressed 

I think bringing him back is a huge risk sms wise cause if he just continues as he has..and we need to cut bait...and who really thinks he will change? Then we on hook with money to him on the coaching cap aspect

Yup...somewhere along the way in 2022 to this yr we lost the plot..the foresight...ability to project and the ability to make the tough decisions...can these 2 get back to that? Maybe? But if they can't and we committ again...only to have to can them...then we really gonna be wandering in the wilderness for a few yrs...they did it before...was it just lightning in a bottle and things just lined up perfect? Or was it from actual things they did...and then got too fat and complacent?? There's arguments for both cases...huge decisions coming here that could affect us for a few yrs running...in either direction..

According to Paul Friesen's article today, it sounds like Osh is back & he doesn't want to make a lot of changes. Sigh. Expect more of the same. More Kola & more Thomas. More playing his pet players. More playing useless veterans than promising younger players. This team is headed for a cliff. 

Posted (edited)

I’ll bet Osh is back and we see some significant change. The reality is if Jake and crew are back it’s cuz the gm signed them. If the gm doesn’t sign some of the vets, they won’t be back. Some will be back tho and I think that’s the important question cuz you can’t just get rid of every vet and expect to win. So who do you actually keep. Brady? Demski. Pokey. Sterns. I mean the OL outside of Wallace vanterpool and Randolph are all older vets. Who stays. It’s easy to say who doesnt but what vets stay. Some will.  Maybe I mentioned them there on O plus Zach. 
 

on D, Tony will be back, he deserves to compete for a spot at the least. Holm? Nichols? Kyrie? Willie? I dunno. Who on o who is FA wants to stay with hogan? That needs to be addressed first. Players fired him. Zach certainly did. 

Edited by Goalie

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