Blue Bombers - 2025 Regular Season - Discussion Thread

[rebusrankin]

40 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Think he's actually doing a pretty good job of making chicken salad out of chicken ****.

Oliviera looks like he's about 70%.  Have one go-to guy in Demski.  Sterns seems somewhat reliable.  Everyone else is a basketcase.  So his best receivers are the two guys under 5'10.

OL is not assignment sound.  Wallace is physical, but can be easily tricked to chase a block and give up the most direct route to the QB/ball carrier.  Discipline and awareness not there yet.  Kolankowski and Neufeld get beat straight up more often than not.  Randolph has been the only consistent piece.

Following up on this, is Wallace a guy that its worth it to deal with the growing pains now for future gains? I think so but you have more technical knowledge.

 

[Slimy Sculpin]

43 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Think he's actually doing a pretty good job of making chicken salad out of chicken ****.

Oliviera looks like he's about 70%.  Have one go-to guy in Demski.  Sterns seems somewhat reliable.  Everyone else is a basketcase.  So his best receivers are the two guys under 5'10.

OL is not assignment sound.  Wallace is physical, but can be easily tricked to chase a block and give up the most direct route to the QB/ball carrier.  Discipline and awareness not there yet.  Kolankowski and Neufeld get beat straight up more often than not.  Randolph has been the only consistent piece.

There hasn't been a lot of consistent play by the O-line this year, probably the result of injuries, diminishing skills or, in the case of our C, not enough skill. Hopefully, they can get the five best guys out there in their best positions...eventually. To my eye from watching a lot of games this year, Collaros isn't getting a lot of time in the pocket and because of issues like our C, has literally no room to step up in the pocket. If this can't be corrected, I think that more roll-out plays should be included in the play repertoire. Collaros is long in the tooth but he still can move. Just my opinion.

[JuranBoldenRules]

6 minutes ago, rebusrankin said:

Following up on this, is Wallace a guy that its worth it to deal with the growing pains now for future gains? I think so but you have more technical knowledge.

 

Yeah but it's going to be similar to Dobson in terms of what he gets to on his next deal.  You'd like to see a bit more progress heading into next season, last on his rookie deal.  

He's got way better feet that Dobson and I like that he is seeking out contact...but too much opening the gate in pass pro to do it, turning his hips, chasing blocks.  Teams 100% have deemed that B gap vulnerable to blitz if they run stunts with their tackles to move Wallace around.

I don't think we should have 3 Canadian OL (of who we have) on the field this season unless we had some crazy injury bug.  Once Vanterpool is back they should be starting him, Bryant and Randolph.

[Tracker]

4 hours ago, wpgallday1960 said:

BBs QB situation is a mess.  As bad as Collaros is he gives us a better chance to win than with Streveler.

Here's hoping we can get some young QB that has potential to be a legit and competent CFL starter in 2026.

We may already have one, but with O'Shea and our current OC, we may never find out.

[CFL Convert from Ohio]

3 hours ago, Mike said:

We have a lot of the worsts in the CFL right now but the big one is that we have the worst starting QB

He might have the worst seasonal stats right now, but he still had the poise to run a last-minute game-winning drive despite all those worsts. I'm prejudiced, but feel that Zach  has been a little underappreciated. If you take a cloaer look, you'll find that ZC played a very solid game in the 2014 Cup, and only an away from the play penalty on Speedy Banks' kick return preventwd him from getting a likely ring. In 19 and 21, lofty stats were pushed to the side as he game-managed wins. The Bombers were on their way to a substantial lead in 22 when the backup QB threw a momentum-changing pick. Even then, they missed a FG at the end. The defense blew 23 with a 4th down play. Last year was a case of being physically manhanded. In summary, ZC was a hair away from winning 5 out of 6 cups. Playoff stats are often worse for QBs. I think it was the 19 playoffs when ZC had a surprisingly effective game in horrible weather while BLM was awful. I also remember 2 OT dimes that put them up by 8 one year. It does look like 2025 might be the first time since 2018 that the starting Western QB will nor be named Zachary J Collaros. 

[17to85]

1 hour ago, CFL Convert from Ohio said:

He might have the worst seasonal stats right now, but he still had the poise to run a last-minute game-winning drive despite all those worsts. I'm prejudiced, but feel that Zach  has been a little underappreciated. If you take a cloaer look, you'll find that ZC played a very solid game in the 2014 Cup, and only an away from the play penalty on Speedy Banks' kick return preventwd him from getting a likely ring. In 19 and 21, lofty stats were pushed to the side as he game-managed wins. The Bombers were on their way to a substantial lead in 22 when the backup QB threw a momentum-changing pick. Even then, they missed a FG at the end. The defense blew 23 with a 4th down play. Last year was a case of being physically manhanded. In summary, ZC was a hair away from winning 5 out of 6 cups. Playoff stats are often worse for QBs. I think it was the 19 playoffs when ZC had a surprisingly effective game in horrible weather while BLM was awful. I also remember 2 OT dimes that put them up by 8 one year. It does look like 2025 might be the first time since 2018 that the starting Western QB will nor be named Zachary J Collaros. 

Zach has played more bad Grey cup games than good ones. 

Guy was a decent qb in his prime, but that time is long gone.

[Bomberguy]

Elgersma is playing for the Packers right now. Looking pretty good on his current drive. Scored a TD on it. 👍🏻

Edited 3 hours ago by Bomberguy

[Booch]

3 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

Following up on this, is Wallace a guy that its worth it to deal with the growing pains now for future gains? I think so but you have more technical knowledge.

 

100 percent

[Booch]

9 minutes ago, Booch said:

100 percent

Pro coaching and also shotgun to Big Stan will help him along immensely...too bad he has to play handicapped with a brutal center 

Hes also just figuring out his best body composition too...which once he where he needs to be will help him thrive...has all the tools and once he gets his technical stuff refined for pass blocking dude gonna be a regular all star...we better pay up this time