2024/2025 CFL (non-Bomber) Off-Season Thread

[JuranBoldenRules]

9 hours ago, Fatty Liver said:

It's simple, MOS invests in people he trusts to follow his path and rewards them with loyalty and support.  If he moved on to the next best talent at the drop of a hat he would have a hard time creating order, discipline, continuity, or peaceful camaraderie as everybody would be looking over their shoulder viewing other players and coaches as a potential enemy instead of a teammate.

The environment Booch wants to emulate, is the area Chris Jones has failed at numerous times.

Chris Jones is actually one of the worst for wanting exactly what he wants at certain positions to the detriment of building a good football team, particularly on defense.

[Booch]

46 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Chris Jones is actually one of the worst for wanting exactly what he wants at certain positions to the detriment of building a good football team, particularly on defense.

Yeah he was particularly good at destroying a teams cohesiveness and robbing from Peter to pay Paul and sacrificing a total team

[Brandon]

I understand loyalty and giving your vets the benefit of the doubt etc... etc...       

I can understand this with your star players who may need to work out of a slump or coming off injury issues.  I can somewhat comprehend guys who have shown flashes.     I do not understand the loyalty for the mediocre players who have never shown that they can even come close to being considered an above average or really good player.   

 

 

[GCn20]

12 hours ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Chris Jones is actually one of the worst for wanting exactly what he wants at certain positions to the detriment of building a good football team, particularly on defense.

True....he is also one of the worst for overlooking everything but what he sees on the field as well. Double whammy. He is too willing to overlook character to get the talent he thinks will fit. He is kind of the anti-O'Shea.

[Bigblue204]

Fun question from Jamie Nye....which I think the answer is obvious but curious as to what others think. With Flag football in the Olympics. Should the CFL postpone the season to let players go.

I think it's a no brainer that the season should NOT be postponed at all. Not only for financial reasons but I don't think many CFLers will make the Olympic roster. But when you take into account the flag roster size (not sure what it is, but won't be too big...maybe 20?...Edit...I looked it up....it's 10) and the amount of CNDs in the NFL that will also be competing to play. How many star Canadians does the CFL lose for those weeks?

Edited yesterday at 03:59 PM by Bigblue204

[Booch]

22 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

Fun question from Jamie Nye....which I think the answer is obvious but curious as to what others think. With Flag football in the Olympics. Should the CFL postpone the season to let players go.

I think it's a no brainer that the season should NOT be postponed at all. Not only for financial reasons but I don't think many CFLers will make the Olympic roster. But when you take into account the flag roster size (not sure what it is, but won't be too big...maybe 20?) and the amount of CNDs in the NFL that will also be competing to play. How many star Canadians does the CFL lose for those weeks?

I think the risk to get hurt...while not being paid....that you wont see any pro's going....or not many....in either league...and what team would be o.k with their meal ticket going to the olympics and possibly getting a season ender?

[Bigblue204]

11 minutes ago, Booch said:

I think the risk to get hurt...while not being paid....that you wont see any pro's going....or not many....in either league...and what team would be o.k with their meal ticket going to the olympics and possibly getting a season ender?

NFL has said they will allow players to go. But you may be right. Though I bet a few of the NFL stars might see this as their "dream team" moment. I'm honestly interested to see how Americas roster breaks down. Flag is a very different game. Lamar might be the best option. 

Edited yesterday at 04:00 PM by Bigblue204

[Booch]

6 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:

NFL has said they will allow players to go. But you may be right. Though I bet a few of the NFL stars might see this as their "dream team" moment. I'm honestly interested to see how Americas roster breaks down. Flag is a very different game. Lamar might be the best option. 

Yeah I not sure tho how team owners are gonna be toward letting their stars go tho...be interesting to see for sure....and seeing how the b.s thats going on down south is right now....maybe many countries are gonna boycott it anyway unless some serious shift happens

 

[greenrider55]

41 minutes ago, Booch said:

Yeah I not sure tho how team owners are gonna be toward letting their stars go tho...be interesting to see for sure....and seeing how the b.s thats going on down south is right now....maybe many countries are gonna boycott it anyway unless some serious shift happens

 

Booch you might be able to answer this - I saw someone say the risk of soft tissue/ligament injuries is heightened with flag football because the speed of the game would change so much. Is there any truth to that?

[Booch]

22 minutes ago, greenrider55 said:

Booch you might be able to answer this - I saw someone say the risk of soft tissue/ligament injuries is heightened with flag football because the speed of the game would change so much. Is there any truth to that?

YEAH there is that too....as I was alluding to I bet teams...even player would be leary...also....NFL teams would want a say on the field it's played on...inspect/approve of playing surface...etc....If I was a big money player I wouldn't risk it...maybe some fringers might....but even they would be risking a lot

Guys train hard and never take breaks now either...hence why you see so many non-contact injuries now...Ligaments and tendons unlike a muscle need time to heal/recoup...they dont grow in size/strength like a muscle does with constant use...much the oppositr...they are what they are and dont change until you obliterate one...or have a surgically repaired one...either by graft from your own body, or a synthetic...They used to do cadaver hosts to fix them at one point, but then was discovered if the host had a genetic issue or history in family of cancer...or other disease it could manifest at some point in the athlete that got the donor ligament/tendon...go figure eh>

Thats why u see a ton of NBA injuries too know....no rest ever...fast paced moving...

Edited yesterday at 05:13 PM by Booch

[Noeller]

Not sure what thread this fits in, but the Bombers bringing in the Trews for the Home Opener Half Time Show. Frig I love those guys... Gonna be a hell of a time.

[Super Duper Negatron]

11 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Not sure what thread this fits in, but the Bombers bringing in the Trews for the Home Opener Half Time Show. Frig I love those guys... Gonna be a hell of a time.

That's awesome. The Trews are solid.

[17to85]

10 hours ago, Noeller said:

Not sure what thread this fits in, but the Bombers bringing in the Trews for the Home Opener Half Time Show. Frig I love those guys... Gonna be a hell of a time.

I've yet to meet anyone who doesn't appreciate the Trews at least somewhat. 

[johnzo]

11 hours ago, Booch said:

Thats why u see a ton of NBA injuries too know....no rest ever...fast paced moving...

I was watching Aaron Gordon play with a Grade 2 hamstring strain in Game 7 this weekend.  And I got curious about what that was, and it turns out that a Grade 2 is actually a partial tear.  I know it's Game 7, but the dude could barely move and didn't really help his team.

Do football players play with Grade 2 tears?  it seems like playing with a bad hamstring is just begging for a full tear.

[wbbfan]

18 hours ago, Noeller said:

Not sure what thread this fits in, but the Bombers bringing in the Trews for the Home Opener Half Time Show. Frig I love those guys... Gonna be a hell of a time.

No sight id rather see 

 

6 hours ago, johnzo said:

I was watching Aaron Gordon play with a Grade 2 hamstring strain in Game 7 this weekend.  And I got curious about what that was, and it turns out that a Grade 2 is actually a partial tear.  I know it's Game 7, but the dude could barely move and didn't really help his team.

Do football players play with Grade 2 tears?  it seems like playing with a bad hamstring is just begging for a full tear.

Does happen yeah. Guys play through every kind of injury. Not usually for to long though. 
 I remember Harris playing hurt at a time he could barely walk back to the line. Then got pulled after a couple snaps.  
 

[Noeller]

Gappers have lost another starting OL to long term injury according to Dunk.

Phillippe Gagnon suffers torn bicep. Not season ending but close. Started almost all games last year at RG for the Als. 

[GCn20]

4 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Gappers have lost another starting OL to long term injury according to Dunk.

Phillippe Gagnon suffers torn bicep. Not season ending but close. Started almost all games last year at RG for the Als. 

Yikes, something in the water over there when it comes to TC injuries every year.

[rebusrankin]

27 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Gappers have lost another starting OL to long term injury according to Dunk.

Phillippe Gagnon suffers torn bicep. Not season ending but close. Started almost all games last year at RG for the Als. 

McEwen and Gannon both out is awful for them. 2 Starting NIs too. I'd feel bad for them but then I remember its the Riders.

[Booch]

10 hours ago, johnzo said:

I was watching Aaron Gordon play with a Grade 2 hamstring strain in Game 7 this weekend.  And I got curious about what that was, and it turns out that a Grade 2 is actually a partial tear.  I know it's Game 7, but the dude could barely move and didn't really help his team.

Do football players play with Grade 2 tears?  it seems like playing with a bad hamstring is just begging for a full tear.

well we played a couple in a Grey Cup recently....but that more a roster issue about evryone is a starter was B.S.....but hammies even a slight tear....stay off field as u could jepordize the whole yr...has to heal

 

34 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Gappers have lost another starting OL to long term injury according to Dunk.

Phillippe Gagnon suffers torn bicep. Not season ending but close. Started almost all games last year at RG for the Als. 

cue up the excuse train....chug chug choo choo!!

 

4 hours ago, wbbfan said:

No sight id rather see 

 

Does happen yeah. Guys play through every kind of injury. Not usually for to long though. 
 I remember Harris playing hurt at a time he could barely walk back to the line. Then got pulled after a couple snaps.  
 

yeah guys may try...but man u risking your season....hammy inury not one to fool with

 

 

[GCn20]

5 minutes ago, Booch said:

well we played a couple in a Grey Cup recently....but that more a roster issue about evryone is a starter was B.S.....but hammies even a slight tear....stay off field as u could jepordize the whole yr...has to heal

 

cue up the excuse train....chug chug choo choo!!

 

yeah guys may try...but man u risking your season....hammy inury not one to fool with

 

 

Thing about hammies is that they tend to dramatically effect performance as well. No real way of hiding a hammy.

[Booch]

1 minute ago, GCn20 said:

Thing about hammies is that they tend to dramatically effect performance as well. No real way of hiding a hammy.

yeah....not worth pushing a guy for a variety of reason...Re-watch the 2023 Grey Cup and watch Bailey.....we may have just pu 11 guys out there as MTL payed no attention to him after they realized he was useless

[Noeller]

2 minutes ago, Booch said:

yeah....not worth pushing a guy for a variety of reason...Re-watch the 2023 Grey Cup and watch Bailey.....we may have just pu 11 guys out there as MTL payed no attention to him after they realized he was useless

Not sure if it was hammy, but Bighill attempting coverage late in that game while having zero ability to run is the one that stands out most to me...

Edited 4 hours ago by Noeller

[Booch]

4 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Not sure if it was hammy, but Bighill attempting coverage late in that game while having zero ability to run is the one that stands out most to me...

calf....and with that...zero explosiveness and minimal to no ability to take off..change direction....and ...well that was evident

[17to85]

3 receivers who basically just had to stand there.... yeah that sucked.