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[JuranBoldenRules]

24 minutes ago, Booch said:

not me....I expected it....now does he wait around hoping another team wants to work him out as a project...an maybe PR him...basically spend the yr hoping

yup...polotics....invested capitol....time and money to invest with the chance he "may" amount to a 2nd stringer....not worth many teams time...cap space and effort

If he was an American kid...played American ball...and attended a Div 1 school...may get more rope

Cap space?  lol

Elgersma is basically the prototype, tested off the charts at the couple senior showcases and senior bowl.  Arguably best overall ability of the QB's in the 2025 class.  Look at the mess in Tennessee with the #1 pick.  If you want a guy to mold into a franchise QB he's got all the attributes without the bad habits that need to be coached out from playing in a shitty NCAA spread system.  Perfect guy to run pro style, west coast concepts.

Yeah they probably worry about his experience level, but lots to work with there.  Guy who was a multiple sport athlete and didn't commit fully to football until Grade 11/12....which is also the basic plot line of arguably the two greatest QB's in the modern era, although they were baseball players not hockey.  Neither one of those guys (Brady and Mahomes) were 5 star recruits.  Who cares if a guy went to Miami or Texas if he has no velocity or accuracy, can't make throws on time, can't adjust and make plays if they get off schedule?

All to say, I don't expect to see Elgersma up here until 2027 or 2028 at earliest and more likely never.

2 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Jesus... Nobody wanted anything to do with him. That seems wild. I can't imagine us cutting any of the guys we've had here all year just to make room for him, but I guess you never know...

I don't really see him coming up soon.  He has no path to playing time here this season, he'd probably have to force a trade but there's really nowhere other than Montreal who needs a QB immediately where he might get any playing time.  The only reason for him to come up would be to play and set himself up for another NFL shot.  Standing on the sideline here doesn't make much sense.

Edited yesterday at 05:27 PM by JuranBoldenRules

[Booch]

7 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Jesus... Nobody wanted anything to do with him. That seems wild. I can't imagine us cutting any of the guys we've had here all year just to make room for him, but I guess you never know...

Easy decision...Drop Artopoeus 

 

8 minutes ago, JuranBoldenRules said:

Cap space?  lol

Elgersma is basically the prototype, tested off the charts at the couple senior showcases and senior bowl.  Arguably best overall ability of the QB's in the 2025 class.  Look at the mess in Tennessee with the #1 pick.  If you want a guy to mold into a franchise QB he's got all the attributes without the bad habits that need to be coached out from playing in a shitty NCAA spread system.  Perfect guy to run pro style, west coast concepts.

Yeah they probably worry about his experience level, but lots to work with there.  Guy who was a multiple sport athlete and didn't commit fully to football until Grade 11/12....which is also the basic plot line of arguably the two greatest QB's in the modern era, although they were baseball players not hockey.  Neither one of those guys (Brady and Mahomes) were 5 star recruits.  Who cares if a guy went to Miami or Texas if he has no velocity or accuracy, can't make throws on time, can't adjust and make plays if they get off schedule?

All to say, I don't expect to see Elgersma up here until 2027 or 2028 at earliest and more likely never.

I don't really see him coming up soon.  He has no path to playing time here this season, he'd probably have to force a trade but there's really nowhere other than Montreal who needs a QB immediately where he might get any playing time.  The only reason for him to come up would be to play and set himself up for another NFL shot.  Standing on the sideline here doesn't make much sense.

yeah....all guys go toward the cap...AR and PR....it's gotta be accounted for

[Booch]

NFL is also different than up here...IR guys also count against the cap...may not be their full salary as some don't necessarily get their actual full non guaranteed amount....but none the less it counts along with the PR guys, so teams need to really be aware of where the cap is being spent, so a guy they may view as a real long shot project...or one who may never evolve into a legit starter, they won't waste their time on...and money

Edited yesterday at 05:42 PM by Booch

[Goalie]

I thought Elgersma had another offer from 1 other team not named Green Bay but it appears they all passed on him. Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s up here sooner than we all think. The politics down there is real, ask Doug flutie about that. 

[JuranBoldenRules]

1 hour ago, Booch said:

Easy decision...Drop Artopoeus 

 

yeah....all guys go toward the cap...AR and PR....it's gotta be accounted for

A guy on the slimmest of rookie deals isn't a factor.  Likely who they do sign will be making more.

[bearpants]

1 hour ago, Booch said:

NFL is also different than up here...IR guys also count against the cap...may not be their full salary as some don't necessarily get their actual full non guaranteed amount....but none the less it counts along with the PR guys, so teams need to really be aware of where the cap is being spent, so a guy they may view as a real long shot project...or one who may never evolve into a legit starter, they won't waste their time on...and money

I believe guys on IR with designation to return count against the cap... if he's out for the year, no cap hit... 

[wpgallday1960]

57 minutes ago, Goalie said:

I thought Elgersma had another offer from 1 other team not named Green Bay but it appears they all passed on him. Wouldn’t surprise me if he’s up here sooner than we all think. The politics down there is real, ask Doug flutie about that. 

I’m really torn on Elgersma.  Part of me wanted him to succeed in the NFL because it would validate we can develop good QBs in CIAU football.  The selfish fan in me wants him to come to the BBs and wildly suceed, our own version of Russ Jackson, if you will.

OK, I’ll get back into my straight jacket now.

[Stickem]

2 hours ago, Noeller said:

Jesus... Nobody wanted anything to do with him. That seems wild. I can't imagine us cutting any of the guys we've had here all year just to make room for him, but I guess you never know...

With the future of Zack....let's say 'becoming a little cloudy' (to say the least) maybe it would be a good idea to have a credible option in the fold...Our management must have seen something they liked when they drafted him...Bring him in for a looksee and let the cards fall where they may

[Goalie]

22 minutes ago, wpgallday1960 said:

I’m really torn on Elgersma.  Part of me wanted him to succeed in the NFL because it would validate we can develop good QBs in CIAU football.  The selfish fan in me wants him to come to the BBs and wildly suceed, our own version of Russ Jackson, if you will.

OK, I’ll get back into my straight jacket now.

I’ll join you cuz I think there’s a chance he’s the guy here after Zach is officially done. I don’t think it’s Streveler or Wilson or even Artopeus. I think Elgersma will be the next starting QB of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. Not this year probably not next year but the year after, he will be our starter. If he comes up this year he’s probably the backup next year. 

Edited 22 hours ago by Goalie

[bryan35]

1 hour ago, Goalie said:

I’ll join you cuz I think there’s a chance he’s the guy here after Zach is officially done. I don’t think it’s Streveler or Wilson or even Artopeus. I think Elgersma will be the next starting QB of the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. Not this year probably not next year but the year after, he will be our starter. If he comes up this year he’s probably the backup next year. 

Diego Pavia is on our neg list. Don't think he gets a shot a real chance shot at the NFL.

[wbbfan]

4 hours ago, Stickem said:

With the future of Zack....let's say 'becoming a little cloudy' (to say the least) maybe it would be a good idea to have a credible option in the fold...Our management must have seen something they liked when they drafted him...Bring him in for a looksee and let the cards fall where they may

i mean top tier arm talent, and some really impressive intangibles. he also has played the canadian game and needs to adjust to pro speed not nearly so much to cfl O/D. 

one year on a pr in the nfl is ideal for his development imo. after that you gotta really get into action to improve. 

The flashes he showed in pre season are really encouraging. lots of guys with arm talent, but for a guy to make the biggest step up in competition and immediately be competitive and comfortable is huge. 

[rebusrankin]

Pavia's NIL deal is estimated at $1.6 million this year. He likely isn't in a rush to come North.

[SpeedFlex27]

10 hours ago, Noeller said:

Jesus... Nobody wanted anything to do with him. That seems wild. I can't imagine us cutting any of the guys we've had here all year just to make room for him, but I guess you never know...

They'll make room for Elgersma in a heartbeat. He'd probably take Wilson's spot for now. He'd be on a CFL rookie deal for the next 3 years. It would be advantageous financially to bring Elgersma in. I find it funny how some here are surprised he was cut by the Packers & then waived thru the NFL. Same thing happened to Rourke. An undrafted qb who at least played D1 NCAA. But he was a Canadian, never played 3 down football at any level, wasn't drafted & signed with the Falcons as a free agent. Rourke a very good pre season but was waived thru the NFL. he saw the writing on the wall & decided to come north back to the Lions. Elgersma may want to wait to see what he feels are his best options are. 

Speaking of Rourke, I hear l'il bro Kurtis is on the non football injured list still recovering from reconstructive ACL knee surgry he had after his final college season in 2024. I believe he'll be up here on the Riders roster at some point after he recovers. 

2 hours ago, rebusrankin said:

Pavia's NIL deal is estimated at $1.6 million this year. He likely isn't in a rush to come North.

Trump is talking about using an Executive Order to get rid of Nil as there are some real problems they're having in college with the amount of money these kids are making. The pendulum has certainly swung the other way. 

[SpeedFlex27]

5 hours ago, wbbfan said:

i mean top tier arm talent, and some really impressive intangibles. he also has played the canadian game and needs to adjust to pro speed not nearly so much to cfl O/D. 

one year on a pr in the nfl is ideal for his development imo. after that you gotta really get into action to improve. 

The flashes he showed in pre season are really encouraging. lots of guys with arm talent, but for a guy to make the biggest step up in competition and immediately be competitive and comfortable is huge. 

You know Elgersma has a better chance of being struck by lightning than to actually make a team & start in the NFL. They don't spend the money or time developing free agents when a ton of guys are signed, cut & are available on the open market.

The best Elgersma can hope for is a PR career or maybe third string. It's also difficult to be on the active roster even as a backup when veteran qbs like Carson Wentz, Tanner McKee, Anthony Richardson, Jimmy Garappolo, Bryce Perkins, Andy Dalton, Tyson Bagent, Jameis Winston, Sam Howell, Kenny Pickett & the ageless Joe Flacco are around.  

Edited 12 hours ago by SpeedFlex27

[Bigblue204]

9 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

They'll make room for Elgersma in a heartbeat. He'd probably take Wilson's spot for now. He'd be on a CFL rookie deal for the next 3 years. It would be advantageous financially to bring Elgersma in. I find it funny how some here are surprised he was cut by the Packers & then waived thru the NFL. Same thing happened to Rourke. An undrafted qb who at least played D1 NCAA. But he was a Canadian, never played 3 down football at any level, wasn't drafted & signed with the Falcons as a free agent. Rourke a very good pre season but was waived thru the NFL. he saw the writing on the wall & decided to come north back to the Lions. Elgersma may want to wait to see what he feels are his best options are. 

Speaking of Rourke, I hear l'il bro Kurtis is on the non football injured list still recovering from reconstructive ACL knee surgry he had after his final college season in 2024. I believe he'll be up here on the Riders roster at some point after he recovers. 

Trump is talking about using an Executive Order to get rid of Nil as there are some real problems they're having in college with the amount of money these kids are making. The pendulum has certainly swung the other way. 

In that instance I think Trump is all talk. He mentioned that months ago and nothings come of it. 
 

[Noeller]

 

 

[Goalie]

Wilson. Winston. Dart. He ain’t taking one of their spots. PR possible. 

[Arnold_Palmer]

Just now, Goalie said:

Wilson. Winston. Dart. He ain’t taking one of their spots. PR possible. 

Yeah kind of strange. The giants released Devito who is a fan favourite, and had a good pre season. I don’t see the fit for the giants. 

[Goalie]

I’m at this point more interested in hearing about Pokey Wilson as he would help immediately and not in 2 years. Can he technically sign with say BC or Hamilton? Or do we actually have his rights. Or is dude playing the waiting game and getting no calls. Could he sign in the UFL? Is that a thing. 

Edited 2 hours ago by Goalie

[voodoochylde]

6 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Wilson. Winston. Dart. He ain’t taking one of their spots. PR possible. 

I think it speaks more to the point about Elgersma (and his camp) being willing to exhaust *every* NFL possibility (no matter how odd the fit might be) before considering coming back to Canada.

[rebusrankin]

Pokey can only sign with us

[Goalie]

1 minute ago, voodoochylde said:

I think it speaks more to the point about Elgersma (and his camp) being willing to exhaust *every* NFL possibility (no matter how ill-fitting it might be) before considering coming back to Canada.

Yes. Good point. I think you are correct here. He’s gonna take every chance he’s given. Whether it be 2 or 19 

[M.O.A.B.]

11 minutes ago, Goalie said:

I’m at this point more interested in hearing about Pokey Wilson as he would help immediately and not in 2 years. Can he technically sign with say BC or Hamilton? Or do we actually have his rights. Or is dude playing the waiting game and getting no calls. Could he sign in the UFL? Is that a thing. 

He can't sign with other CFL teams. We have his rights.

[Booch]

Giants bring in anyone and their mom for workouts....some mom's I hear fared well but the politics of the NFL did them in hahaha

Pokey should just suck it up and realize he not got a chance down there...If a guy like Polk came back and isnt concerned with playing the dance....a guy I would take over Wilson any day....Pokey should realize that he has zero shot too and being 2 yrs older than Polk...and not the desired NFL body type isnt doing him any favors

Edited 1 hour ago by Booch

[wbbfan]

33 minutes ago, Goalie said:

I’m at this point more interested in hearing about Pokey Wilson as he would help immediately and not in 2 years. Can he technically sign with say BC or Hamilton? Or do we actually have his rights. Or is dude playing the waiting game and getting no calls. Could he sign in the UFL? Is that a thing. 

The UFL has no agreement with the cfl when it comes to honoring contracts or rights last I heard. Is it still going to exist? I'm doubtful. But even if it does fail, another spring league will take its place. 

If he sits the whole year down there, though, we lose his rights next year. 

39 minutes ago, Goalie said:

Wilson. Winston. Dart. He ain’t taking one of their spots. PR possible. 

I think it's just a case of they recognize how good his talent and how coachable he is, and want to see him up close to make sure they don't miss out on a 1 in a million shot. 

Elgersma doesn't help us this year, no matter what. But he might be our only real QB hope for the future currently. 

1 minute ago, Booch said:

Giants bring in anyone and their mom for workouts....some mom's I hear fared well but the politics of the NFL did them in hahaha

Pokey should just suck it up and realize he not got a chance down there...If a guy like Polk came back and isnt concerned with playing the dance....a guy I would take over Wilson any day....Pokey should realize that he has zero shot too and being 2 yrs older than Polk...and not the desired NFL body type isnt doing him any favors

They especially love to kick the tires on Canadians.

I think giving him a really fat signing bonus and the promise of release for NFL signings in the off season is the best bet for us. Other wise I bet he kicks around for another month easy.