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Trade deadline thread.

Post all relevant deadline deals and discussion here. 

And a live question for the group: Which would be the best and worst things the Jets could do:

(a) make a trade to acquire a piece for a playoff push

(b) abandon the playoff run now and trade off assets to build for the future

(c) stand pat and use your own players as playoff rentals

And if you think a trade should happen, who should they get/give away, AND more importantly, what does the trade look like. An answer like “trade Scheifele, doesn’t matter who for, just get rid of him” is weak and just stupid noise, let’s be serious about who leaves or comes in and how it would work with salary cap factored in. 

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Jets should trade players for non rentals. 

Copp for Debrusk for example or Lawson Crouse. 

Helps now and the future. Don't see them going after rentals tho 

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DeBrusk requires a $4.5 million qualifying offer next year minimum or he becomes a UFA. Given his career stats that would be an overpay. If Copp is too expensive at that rate, I‘d say no to DeBrusk. Crouse is an interesting target, and at $1.75 million qualifying offer would be cheaper. Is Arizona shopping him around? Thought they would keep him to build around or ask for more in return. They are not looking for a short term fix there, so unless they had a guaranteed contract in hand not sure they go after Copp. His concussion status will be a big factor. 

I almost wish the Jets were 10+ pts out of the playoff picture.  With them now being only 4 points behin, management might start thinking this is a playoff team.  Anyways I don't think the Jets will make the playoffs and we need to retool for next year.  Perfetti has shown he's ready and it's too bad he got injured.    I'd shop Copp and Stastny, and Beaulieu, although Copp's injury likely derailed any trade talk now.

I’d pass on deBrusk too, especially at that price.  I don’t mind Crowse, but it won’t be for Copp. Arizona would want a prospect and/or draft capital, not a UFA, unless they think they could sign him long term.  

Wild Avs in division trade 

Tyson Jost for Niko Sturm

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4 hours ago, Goalie said:

Wild Avs in division trade 

Tyson Jost for Niko Sturm

Salary dump for the Avs to free up cap space for a run at Claude Giroux. 

Colorado and NYR showing interest in Copp 

Arizona Jets scouting each other lots tho 

This could be a good waiver pickup for someone's fourth line. $950 AAV. 

hmm what a coincidence and they just sent Heinola to the moose...nah this is just wishful thinking, I would love to see Perreault back here though but I know it won't happen

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1 hour ago, JCon said:

This could be a good waiver pickup for someone's fourth line. $950 AAV. 

Could bringing him in free up a move of Stastny or Copp?

1 hour ago, iHeart said:

hmm what a coincidence and they just sent Heinola to the moose...nah this is just wishful thinking, I would love to see Perreault back here though but I know it won't happen

I would get Perreault in a heartbeat! Don't see why we can't get him with Beaulieu on LTIR. Dump whomever.

Remember Ben Chiarot?

 

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if I didn't know any better I'd think they were trying to shed all the former Jets on the team

14 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Remember Ben Chiarot?

 

Wow massive overpay for Chiarot...

Apology in advance for not knowing, but after hearing that Copp wants to stay in Winnipeg long term why not sign him?

His asking price too much, cap issues, combination of the two, other?

2 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Apology in advance for not knowing, but after hearing that Copp wants to stay in Winnipeg long term why not sign him?

His asking price too much, cap issues, combination of the two, other?

I think it's a cap issue. Where do you fit him in for what he's worth? 

If they traded "C" and/or "A", then I could see some room. 

Perreault clears. I expect him dealt in the next few days. 

Just now, JCon said:

Perreault clears. I expect him dealt in the next few days. 

Yeah, a deal where MTL retains salary.

18 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Remember Ben Chiarot?

 

That. Is. Bananas.

Remember we let him go for nothing as a UFA, same scenario playing out with Copp and Stastny.

4 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Remember we let him go for nothing as a UFA, same scenario playing out with Copp and Stastny.

They weren't going to trade him going into the playoffs. 

 

But, they should be dealing Copp and Stastny. 

1 hour ago, bustamente said:

Remember we let him go for nothing as a UFA, same scenario playing out with Copp and Stastny.

And Tanev and Myers. Triple fail!

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2 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Apology in advance for not knowing, but after hearing that Copp wants to stay in Winnipeg long term why not sign him?

His asking price too much, cap issues, combination of the two, other?

Where did you hear those comments? All I have ever heard from the media is that he is set on trying free agency and unlikely to return. If he wanted more than $5 million a year, I’d pass on him. If it was $4 million or less, I’d take a good look. In between that, would need to be dependent on the rest of the team cap room. And right now the team is up against the cap with few salaries coming off the books. 

2 hours ago, JCon said:

I think it's a cap issue. Where do you fit him in for what he's worth? 

If they traded "C" and/or "A", then I could see some room. 

People just need to stop with all the “trade Wheeler and Scheifele” nonsense, and it is complete nonsense.

Wheeler is not going anywhere, plain and simple. He has a no-move clause, and even if he did not, no one is taking on an $8.5 million contract for a 35 year old with 2 full years remaining. Putting everything else aside, no team has that kind of room in their cap to take him on. Luckily, even as an overpay he is still producing at a point a game rate. Mounting injuries are becoming a concern. And a buyout would cripple the team for two years with nothing in return. Why would any team give up 60-70 points a year to get nothing back and still pay $4.25 million towards your cap. 

As for Scheifele, even in a down year with fans manufacturing attitude issues, he still remains one of the best value contracts in the league for his ability, so you don’t move him from a point of weakness to appease a grumpy fan base. If he is to be moved, it is more likely to come at draft time, not a rush deal at the trade deadline. And you get proper value for a #1 centre, not just a dump move with the team still 2 points out of the playoffs. I not not against trading him, also not against finding a coach who can work on his defensive game. But wishing a trade of 26 and 55 to “change the culture” is abject stupidity driven by a scapegoating fan base that will turn us into the new Edmonton Oilers who tried the same stunt when they moved Eberle, Hall, Yakupov etc all to re-blend a failing team, IMO. The biggest problem contributing to the Jets’ slide has been the unexpected loss of Byfuglien and the inability to re-rebuild the defence since then. The next biggest is not having a good third scoring line or an even average 4th depth line. Getting rid of two of your top 3 scorers out of spite is not the way to remedy that. 
 

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