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Covid-19

I'm starting this thread as a side discussion of all things Corona Virus related. I understand that this is going to be discussed in almost all other topic threads but we could collect news and other items here. 

 

At work, many conferences have been cancelled.

NBA - Suspended.

NHL - About to be suspended. 

NCAA March Madness - Playing - no crowd. 

 

Political Rallies have been cancelled. 

Travel bans. 

 

Rita Wilson and Tom Hanks tested positive. They're in Australia where testing is available. If they were in the US, they wouldn't have been tested. 

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6 hours ago, bustamente said:

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This looks like a clearcut case to privatize Manitoba Hydro

The Trump administration projects that 3,000 people will die daily from COVID-19 by next month, nearly doubling the current death toll, according to an internal document first reported by The New York Times.

The report from the Federal Emergency Management Agency predicts that the daily death toll will increase by about 70% from the current average of around 1,750 deaths a day. The agency also projects that the number of new cases will increase from 25,000 per day to 200,000 per day.


The data was included in a slide deck that was branded with the logo of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). Both the White House and the health agency denied that the projections had been issued.

"This is not a White House document, nor has it been presented to the Coronavirus Task Force or gone through interagency vetting," the White House said in a statement to The Washington Post. "This data is not reflective of any of the modeling done by the task force, or data that the task force has analyzed."

https://www.salon.com/2020/05/05/white-house-projects-covid-19-death-toll-will-double-next-month-as-trump-pushes-states-to-reopen/

Edited by Tracker

Covid 19 deaths continue and have stated spiking in different parts of the US, Trump WH reaction, lets shut down the task force or at least strip it down, looks like they are okay with thousands dying weekly as they try to get the economy going to save the lift wearing leaning forward imbecile and bunch of merry idiots

Edited by bustamente

7 minutes ago, bustamente said:

Covid 19 deaths continue and have stated spiking in different parts of the US, Trump WH reaction, lets shut down the task force or at least strip it down, looks like they are okay with thousands dying weekly as they try to get the economy going to save the lift wearing leaning forward imbecile and bunch of merry idiots

The irony, of course.....it will be a lot of the MAGA types taking the brunt, of it.....

Jared Kushner's shadow coronavirus task force used a spreadsheet called 'VIP Update' to procure PPE from inexperienced Trump allies over legitimate vendors

https://www.businessinsider.com/jared-kushner-coronavirus-task-force-prioritized-ppe-trump-associates-nyt-2020-5

An example of this:

After One Tweet To President Trump, This Man Got $69 Million From New York For Ventilators

The Silicon Valley engineer, who had no background in medical supplies but was recommended by the White House, never delivered the ventilators.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/rosalindadams/after-one-tweet-to-president-trump-this-man-got-69-million

11 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

Do I have to bring out my "no one isolates during the flu" quote again?

Don't bother. The article in the link posted by Petty Officer Woke is more than two weeks old. Not to mention it's a biased source with libertarian leanings and questionable factual reporting: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/mises-daily/

To those saying COVID-19 is less deadly than "they" are saying, they need to explain the excess deaths first.  It is possible that more people are dying from COVID-19 than is being reported.

Excess U.S. deaths hit estimated 37,100 in pandemic’s early days, far more than previously known

 

By Emma Brown ,Andrew Ba Tran and Data reporter on the rapid-response investigative team Reis Thebault

 May 2

The United States recorded an estimated 37,100 excess deaths as the novel coronavirus spread across the country in March and the first two weeks of April, nearly 13,500 more than are now attributed to covid-19 for that same period, according to an analysis of federal data conducted for The Washington Post by a research team led by the Yale School of Public Health.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2020/05/02/excess-deaths-during-covid-19/?arc404=true

 

Apologies if this has already been posted.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/cargill-plant-meat-union-reopen-high-river-1.5554298

Cargill plant south of Calgary is site of largest coronavirus outbreak in North American

"There have been 921 cases of the virus at the Cargill plant south of Calgary, which has 2,000 workers. One worker in her 60s died, and her husband was hospitalized with the illness."

"A statement from Cargill said all employees who are "healthy and eligible to work" have been asked to report for work for the plant's two shifts."

 

Allowing a plant like this to re-open is a potential disaster in the making.  A huge portion of the workforce are TFW's who live together in cramped apartments and are bused or car-pool to work each morning.  How confident can they be that they won't lose their jobs if they refuse to return to work and be replaced by a new crop of ignorant TFW's?

Sounds like Kenney is setting up a test lab to see if people can catch the virus twice.  Thanks Jason.

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Edited by Throw Long Bannatyne

Well, the COVID-19 outbreak was identified in South Korea and in the United States on the same day. 

 After struggling with previous responses to SARS and MERS, the SD government had drawn up a specific pandemic playbook based on test, trace, isolate - high tech contact tracing, massive amounts of tests produced quickly, and Zero-Tolerance Isolation measures.  As well, the activation of consistent messaging - daily briefings by scientists and medical experts, only .....to update the public and promote best practices,such as social distancing and hand-washing, regardless of location.

Today, South Korea has fewer than 300 deaths.....the U.S. more than 70,000.

Not even going to belabour the sorry specifics of the Trump Administration's efforts in dealing with this crisis.   Posted a couple of months ago, that thousands of Americans would die needlessly.  Hoped I was wrong, but.....here we are.

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Forgive if repost.

24 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

Apologies if this has already been posted.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/cargill-plant-meat-union-reopen-high-river-1.5554298

Cargill plant south of Calgary is site of largest coronavirus outbreak in North American

"There have been 921 cases of the virus at the Cargill plant south of Calgary, which has 2,000 workers. One worker in her 60s died, and her husband was hospitalized with the illness."

"A statement from Cargill said all employees who are "healthy and eligible to work" have been asked to report for work for the plant's two shifts."

 

Allowing a plant like this to re-open is a potential disaster in the making.  A huge portion of the workforce are TFW's who live together in cramped apartments and are bused or car-pool to work each morning.  How confident can they be that they won't lose their jobs if they refuse to return to work and be replaced by a new crop of ignorant TFW's?

Sounds like Kenney is setting up a test lab to see if people can catch the virus twice.  Thanks Jason.

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Just for clarification on this story, more than 800 of the 921 have recovered. Still really awful, but just for clarity's sake....

2 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said:

Don't bother. The article in the link posted by Petty Officer Woke is more than two weeks old. Not to mention it's a biased source with libertarian leanings and questionable factual reporting: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/mises-daily/

How many rational articles do people have to skip over to get to the biased, incorrect trump slanted ones?  The effort they make....lol

20 minutes ago, The Unknown Poster said:

How many rational articles do people have to skip over to get to the biased, incorrect trump slanted ones?  The effort they make....lol

Stoopid is contagious.

43 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Just for clarification on this story, more than 800 of the 921 have recovered. Still really awful, but just for clarity's sake....

That's how Kenney's comms are spinning it too.  I don't really see what the purpose of the clarification is. 

We know that most people don't die from COVID-19.  

What some of us fail to care about is that these jobs are so awful that only the most desperate work at them.  So desperate that they come from other countries (and "worse" situations) and live in sub-standard housing and are held hostage by their workers' permits and their employers in a so-called civilized society.  It's tragic that a 67 year-old Vietnamese refugee died when she should have been comfortably retired after 20+ years at the plant.

48 minutes ago, Noeller said:

Just for clarification on this story, more than 800 of the 921 have recovered. Still really awful, but just for clarity's sake....

Question is, how safe is the meat or the packaging coming out of these infected factories......people are made of meat.

23 minutes ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

Question is, how safe is the meat or the packaging coming out of these infected factories......people are made of meat.

But Vegans would taste best.

21 minutes ago, Tracker said:

But Vegans would taste best.

Beyond Meat stock having a great day.

1 hour ago, The Unknown Poster said:

How many rational articles do people have to skip over to get to the biased, incorrect trump slanted ones?  The effort they make....lol

See they think that means they're doing proper research. I had to dig deep to find this! That must mean I'm more informed!

1 hour ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

Question is, how safe is the meat or the packaging coming out of these infected factories......people are made of meat.

cook it. Bugs don't survive heat so well. 

Just now, 17to85 said:

cook it. Bugs don't survive heat so well. 

Viruses are not "bugs" per se, which are typically germs. But yes, heat will kill them.

seblantics! I was just using bugs as a catch all.

The stoopidity contagion has spread to Quebec:

Quebec Cellphone Towers Damaged As COVID-19 Conspiracy Theories Grow

False narratives about 5G technology have led to attacks in Europe.

MONTREAL — The major crimes unit of Quebec’s provincial police is investigating after four cellphone towers north of Montreal were set on fire within the span of a few days.  

Provincial police spokesman Marc Tessier says the latest fire occurred at a Rogers-owned tower in Laval on Tuesday morning. It’s the second fire since Friday to hit one of the company’s towers in that city.  Two other towers about 70 kilometres north of Montreal — one operated by Rogers and the other by Bell — were hit early Monday morning.

Tessier says the major crimes unit will investigate possible links between the four fires, including whether they can be traced back to people espousing conspiracy theories about 5G technology.

Let's see, the report takes the 2-4% (phony) provided death rate, but accepts it, uses the 2% number to flatter the numbers in your favor even more, and comes up with a death number way higher than reality. What happened there? LOL!

If even 2% was accurate the death count should be WAY higher than it is. I guess that's why they took it easy on you and didn't use your 4%, eh? LOL!

Then they go on to project those PROVIDED numbers against the real infection rate and exposes the lie. Hello?

I guess that's why you aren't arguing the data, just attacking the source. LOL. So dumb. The mediabias website, as if that's the holy grail of objectivity, rates them "mixed". Hardly a damning indictment. Geez, awesome arguments. Talk about bias. Just sad.

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