Thanks @Noeller for the inspiration!

 

This feels like a playoff game. Some are giving us no chance, which is absurd. We can win in Regina, just not during the LDC. 

Win this and we'll probably host a playoff game. Lose and we're probably headed back to Regina in the playoffs. 

Just win, baby! 

 

Edited October 5, 20196 yr by JCon

Just now, Dodge and Burn said:

You kinda ran around alot of bushes on that post.. 

Still didnt really defend your stance on Strev giving us a better chance at winning did ya? 

The bottom line is we’re never going to agree on this. We will never know how Streveler would have fared against the crap teams Nichols played or how Nichols would have fared over the past six weeks. To me, it’s clear the red flags were there for Nichols as well and he was regressive heavily before he got hurt. You’re free to disagree but you haven’t raised a single point outside of “Nicholz had seven winz!!!!”

3 minutes ago, Dodge and Burn said:

Dang, lucky we won any games this year?

I think you're just PO'd with this team and venting your anger on Streveler. You're blowing off the fact that Nichols won against inferior competition and lost against superior competition (Hamilton) just as Streveler is now. 

2 minutes ago, AKAChip said:

The bottom line is we’re never going to agree on this. We will never know how Streveler would have fared against the crap teams Nichols played or how Nichols would have fared over the past six weeks. To me, it’s clear the red flags were there for Nichols as well and he was regressive heavily before he got hurt. You’re free to disagree but you haven’t raised a single point outside of “Nicholz had seven winz!!!!”

What matters beyond "winz" 

 

 

1 minute ago, Dodge and Burn said:

What matters beyond "winz" 

 

 

Future wins is more important than past wins. Other than in a specific championship scenario. 

Just now, J5V said:

I think you're just PO'd with this team and venting your anger on Streveler. You're blowing off the fact that Nichols won against inferior competition and lost against superior competition (Hamilton) just as Streveler is now. 

Sorry but just pointing out what soo many people where crying and whining for, Strev to replace Nichols.  

 

It hasn't worked out. Not saying its all om Strev but the masses got what they were cryinf for...now its not just simple as the QB

Just now, AKAChip said:

Future wins is more important than past wins. Other than in a specific championship scenario. 

Well we aint winning NOW which i think is more important that the Doc Brown fantasy you just said. 

2 minutes ago, Dodge and Burn said:

Sorry but just pointing out what soo many people where crying and whining for

And ya figure whining and crying about whining and crying gives you the high ground?

Just now, Dodge and Burn said:

Well we aint winning NOW which i think is more important that the Doc Brown fantasy you just said. 

The whole point is that Nichols’ 7-2 wasn’t a sustainable 7-2. And he’s damn lucky he got hurt or you’d be seeing the same results with him and there’s be no chance he gets brought back next season over the mystique of “mayyyybe we were just one Nichols injury away from dominating our way to the cup!!”

2 minutes ago, AKAChip said:

The whole point is that Nichols’ 7-2 wasn’t a sustainable 7-2. And he’s damn lucky he got hurt or you’d be seeing the same results with him and there’s be no chance he gets brought back next season over the mystique of “mayyyybe we were just one Nichols injury away from dominating our way to the cup!!”

More Doc Brown fantasy is all...

 

Strev has not won us games. What else matters? 

5 minutes ago, Deiter Fan said:

And ya figure whining and crying about whining and crying gives you the high ground?

Naw, just right. 😉

11 minutes ago, AKAChip said:

The whole point is that Nichols’ 7-2 wasn’t a sustainable 7-2. And he’s damn lucky he got hurt or you’d be seeing the same results with him and there’s be no chance he gets brought back next season over the mystique of “mayyyybe we were just one Nichols injury away from dominating our way to the cup!!”

But he wins every year? And every year he’s out we lose. That’s not a coincidence. 

1 minute ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

But he wins every year? And every year he’s out we lose. That’s not a coincidence. 

This is a misconception that requires a longer post to sort out. 

Just now, Dodge and Burn said:

Sorry but just pointing out what soo many people where crying and whining for, Strev to replace Nichols.  

It hasn't worked out. Not saying its all om Strev but the masses got what they were cryinf for...now its not just simple as the QB

Don't be sorry, we're all PO'd and you are certainly correct in stating that the problem runs deeper than simply inserting Streveler for Nichols. Anyone who thought it was that simple is wrong.

Y'know, the players really do get a raw deal. Every week they have to lay it out there for all to see and it's very easy to point to their play and criticize. We all do it. The coaches OTOH tend to get a pass because we don't get to see what they do or don't do behind the scenes. It takes a lot longer to know if there's a problem with a coach, especially if he's being covered for by his boss. I really think we need to look at this coaching staff.  Even Bob Irving is starting to ask some of the tough questions and frankly, I don't like the answers he's been getting.

12 minutes ago, AKAChip said:

The whole point is that Nichols’ 7-2 wasn’t a sustainable 7-2. And he’s damn lucky he got hurt or you’d be seeing the same results with him and there’s be no chance he gets brought back next season over the mystique of “mayyyybe we were just one Nichols injury away from dominating our way to the cup!!”

Damned lucky he got hurt??? 

 

3 minutes ago, AKAChip said:

This is a misconception that requires a longer post to sort out. 

It’s not. It’s a fact since he’s been here. Although be my guest. 

4 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

It’s not. It’s a fact since he’s been here. Although be my guest. 

I concede that Nichols has started a number of games that the Bombers have won over the past three years. That’s not really something I can deny. The concept that he’s a “winner” due to the quality of his own play is what can be disputed. 

7 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Damned lucky he got hurt??? 

 

The alternative was almost certainly the same poor play and losses it’s just now they’re being sponged up by a QB that isn’t him. And to some, Streveler playing poorly = Nichols is good. 

1 minute ago, AKAChip said:

I concede that Nichols has started a number of games that the Bombers have won over the past three years. That’s not really something I can deny. The concept that he’s a “winner” due to the quality of his own play is what can be disputed. 

We’ve been dreadful without him going back to 2016. 

Just now, Arnold_Palmer said:

We’ve been dreadful without him going back to 2016. 

I’m sorry but being better than Brian Brohm, Robert Marve and Dan Lefevour isn’t going to win him any awards. 

So this question goes out to anybody. This team is still a good team, so what is an actual fix? And what is the fix going into next year? We can sit here and argue but what do you guys think would make this team a winning team again? 

26 minutes ago, AKAChip said:

I’m sorry but being better than Brian Brohm, Robert Marve and Dan Lefevour isn’t going to win him any awards. 

It has nothing to do with other quarterbacks.. in 2016 he was 8-4, 2017, 12-6, and this year 7-2 I’m not sure what his record was last year but I know we were below 500 when he came back and finished 10-8. Simply put he’s won a lot of games when no one else has. 

4 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

It has nothing to do with other quarterbacks.. in 2016 he was 8-4, 2017, 12-6, and this year 7-2 I’m not sure what his record was last year but I know we were below 500 when he came back and finished 10-8. Simply put he’s won a lot of games when no one else has. 

I don't think anyone would question Nichols if he was still the QB from 2016 and 2017...

Nichols can still win games but now he can singlehandedly lose games too... its not straightforward anymore - big play D/ST has been the difference in most of our winning games

 

 

You really have to wonder how any HC worth his salt could sign off on that offensive game plan tonight?

They basically put the game on Strev's arm? We are the best rushing team in the league playing the biggest game of the year in windy conditions and you put the game on Strev's arm?

I'm completely blown away by the level of incompetence on the part of O'Shea & Lapo in preparing for this one.

Heads have to roll in the off season. 

1 hour ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

It has nothing to do with other quarterbacks.. in 2016 he was 8-4, 2017, 12-6, and this year 7-2 I’m not sure what his record was last year but I know we were below 500 when he came back and finished 10-8. Simply put he’s won a lot of games when no one else has. 

Do you consider a win a good performance by the QB regardless of his raw numbers? I mean no disrespect or sarcasm, I’m genuinely curious. 

7 hours ago, Arnold_Palmer said:

We’ve been dreadful without him going back to 2016. 

We’ve been dreadful with him going on 2 and a half seasons.

If you want to win playoffs and Grey Cups you have to have the ability to beat the teams that are going to be there.  The Bombers record against +.500 teams the past three seasons is terrible.  Our W-L doesn’t matter too much in that context of winning the league.

Six of Nichols 7 wins this season were against Ottawa, BC, Edmonton and Toronto.  By far the four worst teams in the league.

Edited October 6, 20196 yr by JuranBoldenRules