Noeller Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 One thing that's been brought up to me is that, as a Bomber fan in AB, we'll probably get more Bomber games out here now. I am a fan of this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 In all honesty, I'm not getting to worked up about this as we'll likely be back in the east in 3 or 4 years. which is exactly why it's bullshit to move them now. Let's at least wait and see if any of the eastern teams get off life support before moving the Bombers yet again. With the new TV contract starting next year, none of the teams in the East should be on life support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 In all honesty, I'm not getting to worked up about this as we'll likely be back in the east in 3 or 4 years. which is exactly why it's bullshit to move them now. Let's at least wait and see if any of the eastern teams get off life support before moving the Bombers yet again. With the new TV contract starting next year, none of the teams in the East should be on life support. That will hardly make a dent as the cap goes up, especially for teams like the Argos and Als that bleed money. The Ticats should be fine in the new stadium for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 That will hardly make a dent as the cap goes up, especially for teams like the Argos and Als that bleed money. The Ticats should be fine in the new stadium for awhile. I have no doubt the cap will go up but I doubt it will go up so much that the TV money hardly makes a dent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 Tv money will help. Time to pay the players more $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 the cap goes up, the tv deal gets split 9 ways rather than 8, I don't think this is the magic bullet that makes every market so viable that people are wanting to believe it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 The real question comes down to how much the cap goes up relative to the TV deal. If the new TV revenue is split 50 / 50 between the cap increase and money to the teams, then it is a huge gain for all of the CFL. If most of it goes to the cap, then we aren't much different then we are today. They were talking on 1290 this morning that if Saskatchewan makes it to the Grey Cup (so include a home playoff game) and revenue from hosting, they could make 10 Million profit this year. 4 Million has been their typical profit. Have to wonder if the revenue sharing discussions ever start up if the gap of profitability of teams continue to increase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 The only concern with revenue sharing is that it can become a crutch for poor teams and rather than work on their own markets might just say "Let the prairies pay for it" I wouldn't be opposed to revenue sharing in the CFL, it's small enough and one guy already owns 25% of the league and several other teams are community owned, but I don't wanna see a situation where a couple problem areas never get fixed because other teams are dragging them along for the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 Paul Wiecek @PaulWiecek6m The Bombers didn't get paid to move West because they asked to move. If they'd insisted on being paid, league would have had them stay East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 The only concern with revenue sharing is that it can become a crutch for poor teams and rather than work on their own markets might just say "Let the prairies pay for it" I wouldn't be opposed to revenue sharing in the CFL, it's small enough and one guy already owns 25% of the league and several other teams are community owned, but I don't wanna see a situation where a couple problem areas never get fixed because other teams are dragging them along for the ride. I agree, I wasn't promoting it. Why should other teams pay for all the people the Bomber's are still paying who are no longer on staff. The topic usually starts to come up when there is a large disparity of income between teams. The argument usually being that the league won't "survive" without all the teams, so it is in the best interest of everyone to share the wealth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 The real question comes down to how much the cap goes up relative to the TV deal. If the new TV revenue is split 50 / 50 between the cap increase and money to the teams, then it is a huge gain for all of the CFL. If most of it goes to the cap, then we aren't much different then we are today. They were talking on 1290 this morning that if Saskatchewan makes it to the Grey Cup (so include a home playoff game) and revenue from hosting, they could make 10 Million profit this year. 4 Million has been their typical profit. Have to wonder if the revenue sharing discussions ever start up if the gap of profitability of teams continue to increase. The losses in 3 eastern markets are as big as the profits in Regina. Luckily they have 3 owners as of now who are willing to sign off on them. If Wetenhall died tomorrow, the Alouettes would be a big problem for the league. Same goes for the Argos with Braley. Young at least got a stadium built in Hamilton, so that should provide stability and a chance to make money. The league is very far from being out of the woods. The best hope for long-term stability is probably that MLSE takes on the Argos, and Molson takes on the Alouettes eventually. But those conglomerates don't operate charities, so it could be tough to find owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 Paul Wiecek @PaulWiecek6m The Bombers didn't get paid to move West because they asked to move. If they'd insisted on being paid, league would have had them stay East. what? They asked to move to the West? What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 Paul Wiecek @PaulWiecek6m The Bombers didn't get paid to move West because they asked to move. If they'd insisted on being paid, league would have had them stay East. what? They asked to move to the West? What? It makes sense. Why would the CFL want them to move to the west? What does it matter to them? Either way you have five teams in one division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolBlue Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 Bombers belong in the west. But I think given the relative instability in the east, they should have stayed there for a few (4?) years before moving. And shame on the Bomber management for not leveraging a few bucks out of this, one way or the other. Bauer would have taken them for half a million easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred C Dobbs Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 I think this is great. When I was a kid there was a game where Bud Grant refused to shake hands with Bobby Dobbs at the end, because Calgary had run up the score against us. Because of that I stopped buying Popsicles when I noticed that they were made in Calgary. I've never hated an Eastern team that much. johnzo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 I guess when you think about it, it does make sense for them to want to move to the West. Tourism dollars from BC, Alberta and Saskatchewan >>>>>>> tourism dollars from Ontario and Montreal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 More home games against the Riders= several hundred thousand more in gate revenue every few seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 More home games against the Riders= several hundred thousand more in gate revenue every few seasons. yeah that makes sense. Definitely more interest for Western opponents than Eastern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomic Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 We will be able to chant BC Sucks more often as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraser Posted September 13, 2013 Report Share Posted September 13, 2013 plus with the exception of BC, I'm sure all western teams are cheaper to travel to than the eastern teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do or die Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Great....We are a western city. Period. Our great history and tradition lies in the West. So, how long will it take us to fire up the ole rivalries with BC, Edmonton, and Calgary? Try about 5 minutes. To say nothing of the utter craziness, we'll have going on with the Riders, as a actual division rival....... As far as this "tougher division" stuff.....we just have to wipe our noses, hitch up our pants and get on with it. iso_55 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 So, how long will it take us to fire up the ole rivalries with BC, Edmonton, and Calgary? Try about 5 minutes. To say nothing of the utter craziness, we'll have going on with the Riders, as a actual division rival....... as a Bomber fan I feel there is a rivalry with the whole league. I hate em all because of all the flip flopping there's grudges against everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpgallday1960 Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Bombers belong in the west. That's where they were when I watched as a kid and moving to the east never felt right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 I'd rather be the Best In The West than a Beast In The East. Noeller 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Blue Posted September 14, 2013 Report Share Posted September 14, 2013 Man I really thought we were going to get compensated. Should've stayed in the East if we weren't getting money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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