johnzo Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 That injury bug is going to show whether the Bombers are a great team or merely a winning team that's been lucky on the injury front. Greats keep on winning no matter who they roll out. This is the time when the entire football department is put to the test: does our bench have enough talent, and do the coaches prepare the subs well enough? This is my one beef with the 2017 bombers, that our subs, especially receivers and DBs, look like they're in over their heads. You look at Edmonton, when Duke Williams was hurt, they rolled out Hazelton and there wasn't a lot of dropoff there. Plus they've had that parade of running backs, not one of whom has looked out of place. Tracker and shadybob 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblue204 Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 29 minutes ago, johnzo said: That injury bug is going to show whether the Bombers are a great team or merely a winning team that's been lucky on the injury front. Greats keep on winning no matter who they roll out. This is the time when the entire football department is put to the test: does our bench have enough talent, and do the coaches prepare the subs well enough? This is my one beef with the 2017 bombers, that our subs, especially receivers and DBs, look like they're in over their heads. You look at Edmonton, when Duke Williams was hurt, they rolled out Hazelton and there wasn't a lot of dropoff there. Plus they've had that parade of running backs, not one of whom has looked out of place. was that during their 7-0 start or the 0-6 streak after that? Poor choice as an example is all I'm saying. CGY or even SSK would have been better. Wanna-B-Fanboy, BigBlueFanatic and Mr Dee 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueandgold Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 1 hour ago, johnzo said: That injury bug is going to show whether the Bombers are a great team or merely a winning team that's been lucky on the injury front. Greats keep on winning no matter who they roll out. This is the time when the entire football department is put to the test: does our bench have enough talent, and do the coaches prepare the subs well enough? This is my one beef with the 2017 bombers, that our subs, especially receivers and DBs, look like they're in over their heads. You look at Edmonton, when Duke Williams was hurt, they rolled out Hazelton and there wasn't a lot of dropoff there. Plus they've had that parade of running backs, not one of whom has looked out of place. The funny thing about Edmonton is that Bowman has been the worst of their import receivers this year. They definitely have a lot of depth in that area, including two studs in Zlystra and Walker. Tracker and blue_gold_84 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnzo Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bigblue204 said: was that during their 7-0 start or the 0-6 streak after that? Poor choice as an example is all I'm saying. CGY or even SSK would have been better. That was just an example of their game vs. us from a couple weeks ago -- at the start of the game the TSN guys mentioned that Williams was hurt and Hazelton was starting at WR instead. Hazelton made some plays in that game and totally looked like he belonged. During their 7-0 run they started White, Perkins, and Van at RB and each of them was effective. Edited October 25, 2017 by johnzo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweep the leg Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 I just read on 3downnation that Jeremiah Johnson will be a healthy scratch on Saturday. blue_gold_84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, sweep the leg said: I just read on 3downnation that Jeremiah Johnson will be a healthy scratch on Saturday. Did they give a reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 1 hour ago, rebusrankin said: Did they give a reason? No, but my guess he's banged up. Here's the article: http://3downnation.com/2017/10/25/questions-gridiron-boardroom-loom-lions-close-season/ Quote ...tailback Jeremiah Johnson may miss the 1,000-yard rushing mark as an expected healthy scratch Saturday. Another starter who will be out is offensive lineman Hunter Steward, who was on crutches Wednesday after suffering a sprained ankle and will not play in the final two games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 5 hours ago, sweep the leg said: I just read on 3downnation that Jeremiah Johnson will be a healthy scratch on Saturday. Well now, that is going to put a BIG hitch in the Lions' offensive plans. Like they didn't have enough problems already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildPath Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 5:34 PM, Blueandgold said: As much as I don’t want Hurl playing, there’s no point in benching for him one game if we’ll have to put him back in once Bond is healthy. I think we have to consider starting Coates at receiver and using that spot to play both of Nevis/Poop or benching Hurl. I disagree. I'd love to see someone take over for Hurl for a game. He's being defended as doing a good job of filling his role, but if someone else comes in for a game and can make a difference we know that its bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BomberBall Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 1 hour ago, WildPath said: I disagree. I'd love to see someone take over for Hurl for a game. He's being defended as doing a good job of filling his role, but if someone else comes in for a game and can make a difference we know that its bullshit. I think we may already know it. ? Tracker and blue_gold_84 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 The way I see it you either play Nevis and Poop if Hurl is behind him or if you insist on playing Thomas at tackle then get a big time disruptive force in at middle linebacker. Since I don't know if they have that player on the roster at MLB then just play Nevis and Poop at the same time already! For fox creek it's not that complicated. Those two make life hell on opposing offensive lines and makes the D better. Do whatever it takes to the ratio to make it work. Mark F, Tracker, shadybob and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) 43 minutes ago, 17to85 said: The way I see it you either play Nevis and Poop if Hurl is behind him or if you insist on playing Thomas at tackle then get a big time disruptive force in at middle linebacker. Since I don't know if they have that player on the roster at MLB then just play Nevis and Poop at the same time already! For fox creek it's not that complicated. Those two make life hell on opposing offensive lines and makes the D better. Do whatever it takes to the ratio to make it work. The entire defence actually looked decent last game they had both those guys in. "it starts up front on both sides of the ball" Edited October 26, 2017 by Mark F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 This has to fixed SAP- we are on the cusp of the playoffs and have to have a settled and respected defence before we get there. Hurl and Knox have had ample opportunity to show their stuff, and have been found wanting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest J5V Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 2 hours ago, tracker said: This has to fixed SAP- we are on the cusp of the playoffs and have to have a settled and respected defence before we get there. Hurl and Knox have had ample opportunity to show their stuff, and have been found wanting. I suspect that the time to replace them has long passed for this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 4 hours ago, J5V said: I suspect that the time to replace them has long passed for this season. Very little chance Bombers will bring in new pieces, but maybe O'Shea can convince Hall to utilize the pieces that are are here in a better system. As a defensive player, O'Shea ought to be able to figure out what is actually going to work consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigseye Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 The healthiest guys should play and hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfranc Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 If the Bombers lose to the Lions at Investor's it's panic time. I really can't see it happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Dee Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 Quote If the Bombers lose to the Lions at Investor's it's panic time. There’s no need for you to panic.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfranc Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 45 minutes ago, Mr Dee said: There’s no need for you to panic.. Nope. As far as I'm concerned the Riders are playing with House Money at this point. The Bombers on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 1 hour ago, mfranc said: Nope. As far as I'm concerned the Riders are playing with House Money at this point. The Bombers on the other hand... How do you figure? shadybob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfranc Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 1 minute ago, blue_gold_84 said: How do you figure? Well, the Riders aren't even two years into a complete rebuild so making the playoffs is already a win. The expectations for the current Bomber regime are much higher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 27 minutes ago, mfranc said: Well, the Riders aren't even two years into a complete rebuild so making the playoffs is already a win. The expectations for the current Bomber regime are much higher. The expectations for the Bombers have been higher since Walters and O'Shea took over, though. Decades long drought and whatnot. I still don't see how the Riders are playing with house money, though. shadybob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bearpants Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 56 minutes ago, mfranc said: Well, the Riders aren't even two years into a complete rebuild so making the playoffs is already a win. The expectations for the current Bomber regime are much higher. I hate to agree with a Rider fan but.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judd Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) 46 minutes ago, bearpants said: I hate to agree with a Rider fan but.... Yeah I tend to agree as well. Panic is an overstatement because 2 games to lock up a home playoff game is a pretty good situation, never mind being able to clinch with one edmonton loss over two games. But a loss will start raising more eyebrows. Edited October 27, 2017 by Judd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 3 hours ago, blue_gold_84 said: The expectations for the Bombers have been higher since Walters and O'Shea took over, though. Decades long drought and whatnot. I still don't see how the Riders are playing with house money, though. I think what "house money" means is that no matter what happens this season, the Rider faithful will applaud like trained seals and Jones will return next year to bring all those special qualities that we have all grown to love back to the Riders and CFL. Jimmy Pop 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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