Mr. Perfect Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 As per his comments on Hustler and Lawless about 10 minutes ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelownabomberfan Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 not sure why he would sign before the new CBA comes out. bluto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braddman19 Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Not really surprising. If I were a free agent I would definitely want to see what was offered in the open market. Add in the fact that the team is just drifting aimlessly this year, and I wouldn't be in a rush to sign before hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlue Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 This is where the inexperience may affect Walters. Gotta wonder how confident he feels in negotiating this one. It will be tricky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxon Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 This is where the inexperience may affect Walters. Gotta wonder how confident he feels in negotiating this one. It will be tricky. I disagree. Walters is a straight forward, look him in the eye and tell the truth kind of guy. From what I know about Henoc and his family, I think that they can appreciate that type of approach. I don't think signing him will be easy....every player wants to be part of a winning team, and we have struggled this year. I don't think, however, that Walters is at a disadvantage to other GM's based on experiance. The bigger factor will be what he is able to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
voodoochylde Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 This is where the inexperience may affect Walters. Gotta wonder how confident he feels in negotiating this one. It will be tricky. I disagree. Walters is a straight forward, look him in the eye and tell the truth kind of guy. From what I know about Henoc and his family, I think that they can appreciate that type of approach. I don't think signing him will be easy....every player wants to be part of a winning team, and we have struggled this year. I don't think, however, that Walters is at a disadvantage to other GM's based on experiance. The bigger factor will be what he is able to offer. ^^^^ And if he's able to sell the road map for the organization over the next few years .. it's going to be a tough sell for a lot of our FA .. convincing them we are turning the corner. I expect to lose a few important defensive FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 If Henoc leaves nothing you can do about it if Walters did everything he could do to sign him. As long as the Bombers are as aggressive as other teams & really tries to keep him, I'm okay with whatever happens. You have to move on. Then it becomes what does he do in trades or free agency to make up for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebusrankin Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 Sucks to here but figured it would happen. Hopefully we can offer a quality deal that works for him. If not, we can cut his brother. pigseye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 If you'll all remember Muamba was a pain in the ass to get signed intially as well. Guy was always going to be a tough sign, I don't doubt that the Bombers will show him the money, it's just whether or not he wants to stay here or if he thinks there's some other offer out there that is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braddman19 Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 It is really too bad they FA system kicks in so early in the CFL. 3 seasons is just not enough to evaluate and mold the player. A "franchise" like tag could potentially help retain players for longer periods of time. I guess no matter what though, if you don't have a good team, you can't expect to retain your players without throwing ridiculous amounts of money at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 If you'll all remember Muamba was a pain in the ass to get signed intially as well. Guy was always going to be a tough sign, I don't doubt that the Bombers will show him the money, it's just whether or not he wants to stay here or if he thinks there's some other offer out there that is better. A lot will depend if he thinks the team is on the right track to win a championship in the next 2 to 5 years. With Mack, there was no hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floyd Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 At least, it feels like Walters is doing something... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Blue Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 They said Henoc's agent is a guy who pushes hard for his players to go after NFL tryouts. Could be something to that too, though Winnipeg is obviously a tough sell right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacquie Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 not sure why he would sign before the new CBA comes out. Wouldn't that depend on how negotiations go on a new CBA. Last one wasn't ratified until July and there was a 30 day period after ratification where the old rules applied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagingIce Posted September 9, 2013 Report Share Posted September 9, 2013 The CFL needs restricted free agency IMO. NI's are too valuable and contracts too short to let players play the FA market after one contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braddman19 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Restricted free-agency, or arbitration at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iso_55 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Yeah, agreed. Losing guys after investing the time & money in them after just 3 seasons needs to be changed. If a team wants a young guy then the team that loses that player must be compensated. Every other league does that except the CFL. rebusrankin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 Get some import MLB prospects in during the expanded PR time. Blue-urns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braddman19 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 If we put this time into Muamba and he walks, we end up being farther behind than we were in the beginning. Trying to Build that MLB position as NI, without a viable exceptional backup, is short-sighted. pigseye 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuranBoldenRules Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 If we put this time into Muamba and he walks, we end up being farther behind than we were in the beginning. Trying to Build that MLB position as NI, without a viable exceptional backup, is short-sighted. There are two starting NI LB's in a whole league. Your alternative to Muamba is another NI receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braddman19 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 If we put this time into Muamba and he walks, we end up being farther behind than we were in the beginning. Trying to Build that MLB position as NI, without a viable exceptional backup, is short-sighted. There are two starting NI LB's in a whole league. Your alternative to Muamba is another NI receiver. Sorry, I meant moreso that you have to have another viable NI who can step in, regardless of the position. Thanks for pointing that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueandgold Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 I have a bad feeling Henoc is going to leave at the end of the year(one of the reasons I don't really want Cauchy benched). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braddman19 Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 I honestly don't think that Cauchy being here will have any bearing on him resigning.... Moreso I think he played Mack to get his brother a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueandgold Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 I honestly don't think that Cauchy being here will have any bearing on him resigning.... Moreso I think he played Mack to get his brother a job. Us benching his brother wouldn't bode well for our chances of re-signing Henoc IMO. Probably the main reason why Cauchy is still starting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR. CFL Posted September 10, 2013 Report Share Posted September 10, 2013 His agent is an idiot so far as to say Barker won't even draft any one he represents. Who knows how much air he has blown up Henoc's butt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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