GCn20 Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 On 2021-09-23 at 6:53 PM, Mark F said: "Why do people feel the tax system is unfair? 70% or more feel that large corporations and wealthy Canadians do not pay their fair share in taxes while 40% feel that lower- and middle-income Canadians pay more than their fair share. Most Canadians feel that small businesses pay their fair share in taxes. 5. Now is the time to tackle wealth inequality: A clear majority (82%) believe now is the time to tackle wealth and income inequality by increasing taxes on wealthy Canadians and large, profitable corporations. And we find broad and deep support for several ideas. " lots of,pollong info. across all,parties. https://abacusdata.ca/tax-fairness-canada-poll/ Ok,,,now I'm confused....Trudeau said that low income people don't pay taxes? I support taxing the wealthy, until they all move away that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, GCn20 said: Ok,,,now I'm confused....Trudeau said that low income people don't pay taxes? I support taxing the wealthy, until they all move away that is. Wealthy people won't move away. That's right wing nonsense. We tax income, not wealth. The "rich" still need to earn income, regardless of where they live. Edited September 27, 2021 by JCon Tracker, WildPath, Noeller and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrostyWinnipeg Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/annamie-paul-resigning-as-leader-of-the-green-party-1.5601820 Thought the Greens would do better in a year in which Canada burned quite a bit Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, FrostyWinnipeg said: https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/annamie-paul-resigning-as-leader-of-the-green-party-1.5601820 Thought the Greens would do better in a year in which Canada burned quite a bit The party is a mess. WildPath, blue_gold_84, Bigblue204 and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 1 hour ago, JCon said: Wealthy people won't move away. That's right wing nonsense. We tax income, not wealth. The "rich" still need to earn income, regardless of where they live. Rich people don't move away? Yea....tell that to California cause they didn't get the memo, Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, GCn20 said: Rich people don't move away? Yea....tell that to California cause they didn't get the memo, I don't think you understand how taxation works. blue_gold_84 and Noeller 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildPath Posted September 27, 2021 Report Share Posted September 27, 2021 7 hours ago, GCn20 said: Rich people don't move away? Yea....tell that to California cause they didn't get the memo, 9 hours ago, GCn20 said: Ok,,,now I'm confused....Trudeau said that low income people don't pay taxes? I support taxing the wealthy, until they all move away that is. "We find that major reforms reducing taxes on the rich lead to higher income inequality as measured by the top 1% share of pre-tax national income. The effect remains stable in the medium term. In contrast, such reforms do not have any significant effect on economic growth and unemployment." - http://eprints.lse.ac.uk/107919/1/Hope_economic_consequences_of_major_tax_cuts_published.pdf “Policy makers shouldn’t worry that raising taxes on the rich to fund the financial costs of the pandemic will harm their economies,” - https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-16/fifty-years-of-tax-cuts-for-rich-didn-t-trickle-down-study-says I find that the positive relationship between tax cuts and employment growth is largely driven by tax cuts for lower-income groups, and that the effect of tax cuts for the top 10% on employment growth is small. https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w21035/w21035.pdf "The German experience suggests that putting workers on boards has done little to limit soaring pay at the top. Likewise, shareholders have occasionally slapped the wrists of executives, but not much else. Higher taxes are the only way. And they cause no harm, except to the bank balances of those they target." (The CPC suggested putting workers on boards as a progressive step) -https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/dec/20/trickle-down-economics-is-dead-its-time-to-tax-the-rich-harder "far from being either necessary or good for economic growth, excessive inequality tends to lead to weaker economic performance." - https://academiccommons.columbia.edu/doi/10.7916/d8-gjpw-1v31 "Tax cuts for the rich “do not have any significant effect on economic growth and unemployment”, and “lead to higher income inequality”" - https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/01/tax-cuts-for-wealthy-impact-lse-study/ blue_gold_84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, WildPath said: We find that major reforms reducing taxes on the rich lead to higher income inequality no shortage of fact based papers confirming this. The highest gains since ww 2 for average people occurred when the top tax rate was 90 %. funny thing is how the guy red herring everyone. I posted a link to some polling..... he responds with something about Trudeau. lol. Edited September 28, 2021 by Mark F Wideleft, JCon, Wanna-B-Fanboy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 One of the interesting proposals that I heard of a few years ago was a "wealth transfer tax of 2% or so. If it was instituted by all the democracies, it would prevent the threat of the mega-rich packing up and moving to wherever they could get the best deal for themselves. WildPath and Mark F 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17to85 Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 I mean christ Jason kenney cut the corporate tax rate first thing in Alberta and companies took that cash and moved anyway. Tracker, Mark F and Wideleft 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildPath Posted September 28, 2021 Report Share Posted September 28, 2021 There are even ultra-rich campaigning to be taxed more. "As a millionaire I know personally that our global economic system has enshrined wealth accumulation for the few – to the detriment of ordinary people in every country. We all deserve more than a pre-COVID path to recovery,” said Morris Pearl, Chair of Patriotic Millionaires and former managing director at BlackRock, Inc. “Taxing wealth has to be a key, central policy for all governments if we want to build beyond the skewed and faulty economic system we previously had.” - https://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2021/04/01/millionaires-call-wealth-taxes-wealth-worlds-billionaires-surges-4-trillion There are better sources for millionaires campaigning for more taxes on the rich, but I can't recall them right now. But who really needs a source when you can regurgitate conservative talking points. Tracker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 S. Harper. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/harper-united-arab-emirates-surveillance-technology-1.6192281 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 36 minutes ago, Mark F said: S. Harper. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/harper-united-arab-emirates-surveillance-technology-1.6192281 What a ghoul. blue_gold_84, Mark F, Noeller and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCn20 Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 On 2021-09-27 at 8:14 PM, Tracker said: One of the interesting proposals that I heard of a few years ago was a "wealth transfer tax of 2% or so. If it was instituted by all the democracies, it would prevent the threat of the mega-rich packing up and moving to wherever they could get the best deal for themselves. Yes, that would be a great idea. In order to tax the wealthy, tax havens and loopholes must be closed first. It is entirely unrealistic to think that corporations and the mega rich are going to lineup to pay taxes in any jurisdiction unless they absolutely must. Bigblue204 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tracker Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 3 hours ago, JCon said: What a ghoul. Money outweighs "Christian" ethics quite often. Mark F, blue_gold_84 and WildPath 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted September 29, 2021 Report Share Posted September 29, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tracker said: Money outweighs "Christian" ethics quite often. amen. and also, Jews, and Hindus, and Muslims..whoever. hari krishnas? Edited September 29, 2021 by Mark F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JCon Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 Just now, FrostyWinnipeg said: Good sale on flights to Costa Rica, I guess. Noeller, Tracker, bigg jay and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the watcher Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 15 hours ago, JCon said: Good sale on flights to Costa Rica, I guess. Maybe he will stop off and go surfing with Trudeau in Tofino. Mark F and JCon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 1 hour ago, the watcher said: Maybe he will stop off and go surfing with Trudeau in Tofino. I'll tell you what he won't be doing, coming to my constituency. He couldn't even find it on a map. Mark F, Tracker and the watcher 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue_gold_84 Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/otoole-caucus-meeting-leadership-review-1.6200158 Quote Conservative Leader Erin O'Toole said today he believes he has enough support from his party's MPs to stay on as leader if he's forced to go through a caucus leadership review. Three weeks after losing the election to the incumbent Liberals, Conservative MPs gathered in Ottawa today for a caucus meeting to discuss the disappointing result — and vote on a series of measures that could give MPs the power to fire O'Toole and launch another leadership race to replace him. While there has been grumbling in Conservative circles over O'Toole's performance during the campaign — at least one caucus member told CBC News that they want to see him resign — the leader said today he thinks he has enough support to hang on and lead the party through another election. "Yes I do," O'Toole said when asked if he has the backing of most MPs. Seems like there could be more infighting ahead for the CPC and that O'Toole's leadership will be questioned, if not outright challenged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCon Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/otoole-caucus-meeting-leadership-review-1.6200158 Seems like there could be more infighting ahead for the CPC and that O'Toole's leadership will be questioned, if not outright challenged. It was a close leadership contest, so I'm not surprised that this is the result. Still think it would be foolish to try to replace him, though. Unless Ambrose is ready to run for the leadership or, possibly, Raitt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark F Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 26 minutes ago, blue_gold_84 said: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/otoole-caucus-meeting-leadership-review-1.6200158 Seems like there could be more infighting ahead for the CPC and that O'Toole's leadership will be questioned, if not outright challenged. not crazy enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goalie Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 (edited) Cons realizing to be different and possibly defeat the liberals they need a woman In charge before Trudeau names a woman replacement soon ish Edited October 5, 2021 by Goalie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeller Posted October 5, 2021 Report Share Posted October 5, 2021 25 minutes ago, JCon said: It was a close leadership contest, so I'm not surprised that this is the result. Still think it would be foolish to try to replace him, though. Unless Ambrose is ready to run for the leadership or, possibly, Raitt. Is Rona eligible to run, after being interim leader? For some reason I thought she was no longer eligible to be the leader... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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