I didn't think we had a thread for this. 

Is Trudeau this out of touch or does he just not care?

 

The Woke Will Always Break Your Heart

Canadian progressives have to decide whether they care more about Justin Trudeau’s policy achievements or his offensive style.

"The 2019 election is a test for Canadian progressives: style or substance. The Liberal government of Justin Trudeau is the most successful progressive government in the world. It instituted a carbon tax and legalized marijuana. Last year, for the first time, Canada settled more refugees than any other country. Because of higher government benefits, child poverty is at its lowest level in history. Economic growth this year reached 3 percent. That is what Trudeau has done. He also appeared in brownface at an Aladdin-themed costume party in 2001 at the age of 29."

"The main criticism from Trudeau’s opponents on the right has usually been that he’s a spoiled brat—a son of privilege—not up to running the country. A faker. The brownface debacle has now become, on the left, a symbol of his lack of real commitment to progressive values. But the cross-party consensus that Trudeau is slight and phony doesn’t survive even a cursory examination of his record. An independent assessment by two dozen Canadian academics found that Trudeau has kept 92 percent of his campaign promises, the most by any Canadian government in 35 years. He is measurably, demonstrably the most sincere and effective prime minister in living memory. He is the rare case of a man whose virtue-signaling has distracted from his real virtues.

 

Only the left struggles with these standards of style. Right-wing political opponents in Canada and elsewhere have a completely different understanding of acceptable behavior. In the United States, President Donald Trump’s supporters take his brand of nastiness, his aggressive rejection of even the most basic social norms, as a sign of authenticity. Meanwhile, Senator Elizabeth Warren is still apologizing for her Cherokee-ancestry claim."

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/10/trudeaus-progressive-style/599203/?fbclid=IwAR0GbnDOezq1Kb5-0t7b9w1up5dSbgTR7OueiCfMIP9bAMlfQ6GEN-1Qp44

Edited October 4, 20196 yr by Wideleft

10 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

The Woke Will Always Break Your Heart

Canadian progressives have to decide whether they care more about Justin Trudeau’s policy achievements or his offensive style.

"The 2019 election is a test for Canadian progressives: style or substance. The Liberal government of Justin Trudeau is the most successful progressive government in the world. It instituted a carbon tax and legalized marijuana. Last year, for the first time, Canada settled more refugees than any other country. Because of higher government benefits, child poverty is at its lowest level in history. Economic growth this year reached 3 percent. That is what Trudeau has done. He also appeared in brownface at an Aladdin-themed costume party in 2001 at the age of 29."

"The main criticism from Trudeau’s opponents on the right has usually been that he’s a spoiled brat—a son of privilege—not up to running the country. A faker. The brownface debacle has now become, on the left, a symbol of his lack of real commitment to progressive values. But the cross-party consensus that Trudeau is slight and phony doesn’t survive even a cursory examination of his record. An independent assessment by two dozen Canadian academics found that Trudeau has kept 92 percent of his campaign promises, the most by any Canadian government in 35 years. He is measurably, demonstrably the most sincere and effective prime minister in living memory. He is the rare case of a man whose virtue-signaling has distracted from his real virtues.

 

Only the left struggles with these standards of style. Right-wing political opponents in Canada and elsewhere have a completely different understanding of acceptable behavior. In the United States, President Donald Trump’s supporters take his brand of nastiness, his aggressive rejection of even the most basic social norms, as a sign of authenticity. Meanwhile, Senator Elizabeth Warren is still apologizing for her Cherokee-ancestry claim."

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/10/trudeaus-progressive-style/599203/?fbclid=IwAR0GbnDOezq1Kb5-0t7b9w1up5dSbgTR7OueiCfMIP9bAMlfQ6GEN-1Qp44

That was an excellent article- thanks for sharing, really appreciate it.

4 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

That was an excellent article- thanks for sharing, really appreciate it.

He's a good writer.  I'm interested in this now: 

"How Not To **** Up Your Kids Too Bad -- A Guide to Modern Fatherhood" has been released on Audible, May 2018. 

3 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

He's a good writer.  I'm interested in this now: 

"How Not To **** Up Your Kids Too Bad -- A Guide to Modern Fatherhood" has been released on Audible, May 2018. 

Good grief, I wish I had that book 21 years ago 

7 hours ago, Wideleft said:

Because they're buying carbon offsets.  End of story.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/carbon-offset.htm

 

Ha. ha. Yeah, that just makes it okay. Just keep polluting because Trudeau's Liberals paid for the right to do it. Doesn't help the world but it helps make Trudeau's pals rich. 

 

Edited October 4, 20196 yr by SpeedFlex27

8 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

Ha. ha. Yeah, that just makes it okay. Just keep polluting because Trudeau's Liberals paid for the right to do it. Doesn't help the world but it helps make Trudeau's pals rich. 

So tell me what's greener:  Carbon offsets X2 for 2 polluting planes or 1 polluting plane with no carbon offsets.  FFS, the Conservatives don't even try!

4 minutes ago, Wideleft said:

So tell me what's greener:  Carbon offsets X2 for 2 polluting planes or 1 polluting plane with no carbon offsets.  FFS, the Conservatives don't even try!

One plane. It's not polluting twice. Who gives a **** about carbon offsets? The Liberals do so they can reward their friends & bag men. 

7 hours ago, Wideleft said:

Because they're buying carbon offsets.  End of story.

https://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/green-science/carbon-offset.htm

 

I'm aware of how they work. You do know that the company selling them has stated its better not to fly at all.

https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/carbon-offsets-airplane-emissions_ca_5d974d76e4b0da7f66259f1a

My point was that campaigning on how great you are for the environment and then having two planes is very do as I say, not as I do and that he should be called out more.

Just like wanna-b-fanboy made a good point on Sheer and dual citizenship.

 

47 minutes ago, SpeedFlex27 said:

One plane. It's not polluting twice. Who gives a **** about carbon offsets? The Liberals do so they can reward their friends & bag men. 

This is an interesting point- do you have any evidence of this? Some links, so that we can see for ourselves?

18 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

This is an interesting point- do you have any evidence of this? Some links, so that we can see for ourselves?

Not fair, you can't question these guys on their sound bites, that's all they've got. 

Trudeau won't remove Liberal candidate for racist, sexist social-media posts

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/elections/trudeau-wont-remove-liberal-candidate-for-racist-sexist-social-media-posts/ar-AAImSNV?ocid=spartandhp

Why am I not surprised? 

3 minutes ago, pigseye said:

Trudeau won't remove Liberal candidate for racist, sexist social-media posts

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/elections/trudeau-wont-remove-liberal-candidate-for-racist-sexist-social-media-posts/ar-AAImSNV?ocid=spartandhp

Why am I not surprised? 

Keeping up with the sheers?

2 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Keeping up with the sheers?

Sheer isn't a virtue signaller 

1 hour ago, pigseye said:

Sheer isn't a virtue signaller 

What is a virtue signaler?

1 hour ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

What is a virtue signaler?

Once you’re accused of virtue-signalling, you can’t do anything right

The Conservatives, NDP and Greens have all removed candidates for similar posts on social media, why should the Liberals be different?

10 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

What is a virtue signaler?

It's a trope designed to stifle language that supports progressive and empathetic thoughts and goals.  It suggests that "left" thinkers have to be perfect while allowing those on the right to say and do whatever the hell they want.

Nothing more and nothing less.

Also see:  "tree hugger", "liberal", "democrat".

11 hours ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

What is a virtue signaler?

I looked it up and there was a picture of JT

the action or practice of publicly expressing opinions or sentiments intended to demonstrate one's good character or the moral correctness of one's position on a particular issue.

I wonder if JT's reluctance to remove members has anything to do with the rumours about his own conduct (not to mention the blackface scandal which hasnt been much of a scandal since so many liberal supporters dont seem to think there is anything wrong with it).  Talked to a media buddy of mine and he thinks the rumour of JT's reason for leaving a teaching gig mid semester are true and will hit the mainstream soon. (reports are out there).

English debate tonight. I expect Bernier to throw gasoline on the fire.

10 hours ago, The Unknown Poster said:

I wonder if JT's reluctance to remove members has anything to do with the rumours about his own conduct (not to mention the blackface scandal which hasnt been much of a scandal since so many liberal supporters dont seem to think there is anything wrong with it).  Talked to a media buddy of mine and he thinks the rumour of JT's reason for leaving a teaching gig mid semester are true and will hit the mainstream soon. (reports are out there).

If the rumour is true, man is that bad stuff.

4 hours ago, FrostyWinnipeg said:

English debate tonight. I expect Bernier to throw gasoline on the fire.

Complete waste of time to watch. Never should allow the Bloc to participate because all they do is sidetrack the debate into a petty regional (ie. Quebec) pissing match. 

I don't want to vote for any of those assholes. All but Scheer basically made promises to **** Alberta right up the ass without even the courtesy of a reach around, but man the Conservative platform of "Don't you hate Trudeau?" is the most uninspiring thing ever when you can tell that their whole plan is the same as Ford and Kenney just ******* **** up worse so that a few people can get just a tiny bit richer. 

Just read somewhere that sheer has a former trump campaigner working on his campaign... anyone know more about This?

Shachi Kurl

@ShachiKurl·21h

I think some of the most shocking/rattling findings for me in this survey had to do with some of the giant, colossal misconceptions ppl in Canada have about WHERE our permanent residents are coming from. Just check out this graphic: #elxn43

 

 

http://angusreid.org/election-2019-immigration/

Edited October 9, 20196 yr by Wideleft

10 minutes ago, wanna-b-fanboy said:

Just read somewhere that sheer has a former trump campaigner working on his campaign... anyone know more about This?

Haven't read that, but the Globe and Mail is reporting that Hamish Marshall's firm (One Persuasion Inc.) is working for Scheer and the oil and gas industry simultaneously.  It's behind a paywall, so I don't know the details.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-election-ad-contracts-capp-conservatives/