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US Politics

Lets see if we can keep this thread a little more civil.

I found this interview very interesting.  A lot of soft balls thrown at Trump, he explained his back pedalling on his more extreme issues as a lot of his claims as opening bids for negotiation purposes.  Which .. whatever .. I still think that those are insincere claims he used to get elected.

He does now come across way more presidential then he did prior to the election.  A lot of his noise, yelling, and rhetoric has been scaled back.

Do respect this one though:

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Lesley Stahl: Are you gonna take the salary, the president’s salary?

Donald Trump: Well, I’ve never commented on this, but the answer is no. I think I have to by law take $1, so I’ll take $1 a year. But it’s a -- I don’t even know what it is.

Donald Trump: Do you know what the salary is?

Lesley Stahl: $400,000 you’re giving up.

Donald Trump: No, I’m not gonna take the salary. I’m not taking it.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minutes-donald-trump-family-melania-ivanka-lesley-stahl/

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8 hours ago, the watcher said:

The Democrats are not appealing to left leaning people who want change, 

 They continue to bend to their financial backers who dont want change. 

Precisely.

Biden just announced more oil drilling permits. Not even a week since the report saying "no more drilling"

I have come to realize that the people who will not be affected, do not actually care.



 

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1 minute ago, Mark F said:

Precisely.

Biden just announced more oil drilling permits.

 

This is pathological. Instead of going after Big Oil for predatory pricing or encouraging people to drive less or smaller vehicles, this is feeding the problem. Problematic gamblers do not see the gambling as a problem, but see the problem as a lack of money.

7 minutes ago, Tracker said:

pathological.

Had to look that up... it fits.


 Elected office seems to attract that kind of person.

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On 2022-04-14 at 9:12 AM, bustamente said:

Bill Barr should be in jail for mispresenting the Muller report the way he did, he gave Trump cover and help unleash the idiot speak.

Nah let’s let them write a book instead. Capitalism at it’s finest.

40 minutes ago, Mark F said:

Had to look that up... it fits.


 Elected office seems to attract that kind of person.

There are those who seek power to do good and make the world a better place, but there are also those who are so psychologically damaged that they seek power to harm others as they have been harmed. "Hurt people hurt people".

Just now, HardCoreBlue said:

Nah let’s let them write a book instead. Capitalism at it’s finest.

There are places which do not allow criminals to profit from their misdeeds.

2 minutes ago, Tracker said:

There are those who seek power to do good and make the world a better place, but there are also those who are so psychologically damaged that they seek power to harm others as they have been harmed. "Hurt people hurt people".

There are places which do not allow criminals to profit from their misdeeds.

Yes but for that to work you have to have a functioning DOJ and Supreme Court. It would seem thus far no matter who you have in those seats in the US it don’t matter. I know you have way for patience and confidence in Garland.  I don’t. Justice is suppose to be swift and blind for all involved.

12 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Yes but for that to work you have to have a functioning DOJ and Supreme Court. It would seem thus far no matter who you have in those seats in the US it don’t matter. I know you have way for patience and confidence in Garland.  I don’t. Justice is suppose to be swift and blind for all involved.

Garland has not enough for accolades or condemnation, but justice delayed is justice denied.

2 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Garland has not enough for accolades or condemnation, but justice delayed is justice denied.

Again, this is where you and I diverge on opinion on the front half of this sentence based on the last half of this sentence.

1 hour ago, Tracker said:

but justice delayed is justice denied.

Pretty sure delaying things is a standard weapon in the criminal defence arsenal.

 

witnesses leave, or die, , or lose interest and wont testify, memory fades, documents are lost....
 

So garland is helping trump with his slow pace.  
 

Its not impossible to charge someone without one hundred percent certainty of conviction, and before every single item is lined up. Police routinely "overcharge", charge an offence they cant prove, hoping for a plea bargain for a lesser offence, instead of a not guilty pleas and trial.

trump himself, would probably drag out any criminal case for many years. Standard procedure, specially for him.

Marcy Wheeler empty wheel delves brilliantly  into every tiny shard, to read the tea leaves on this... she is hopeful.

I'm not. I think their entire system is in ruins at this point. 
 

For instance....

they have a credibly accused sexual assaulter, blackout drunk, on the Supreme Court.

counting on that guy for justice is a slender hope.

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Birds Aren’t Real': How a mock conspiracy theory caught on with the far right
   
When Arkansas native turned Memphis resident Peter McIndoe invented the Birds Aren’t Real conspiracy theory in January 2017 — the month of former President Donald Trump’s inauguration — he was making fun of far-right conspiracy theorists. It was an exercise in political satire; McIndoe, now 23, was mocking the type of MAGA Republicans who listen to listen to Alex Jones’ “Infowars” and embrace Pizzagate and other ludicrous conspiracy theories. But Birds Aren’t Real caught on, and according to The Guardian’s Zoe Williams, some conspiracy theorists on the far right actually take it seriously.

Birds Aren’t Real claims that the “Deep State” killed off all of the real birds in the United States and replaced them with drones that are made to look like birds — and the drones are being used to spy on Americans. McIndoe never really believed that, but he found that some far-right conspiracy theorists took him seriously and believed that all the birds flying around were drones.

McIndoe, Williams notes, unveiled his Birds Aren’t Real claims at a rally in Memphis in January 2017.

“Someone was filming him and put it on Facebook,” Williams explains. “It went viral, and Memphis is still the center of the Birds Aren’t Real movement. Or is it a movement? You could call it a situationist spectacle, a piece of rolling performance art or a collective satire. MSNBC called it a ‘mass coping mechanism’ for Generation Z, and as it has hundreds of thousands of followers on social media, ‘mass,’ at least, is on the money.”


The audience for far-right conspiracy theories only grew during Trump’s four years in the White House, from QAnon to the false claim that the 2020 election was stolen from Trump. And according to Williams, Birds Aren’t Real is “the most perfect, playful distillation of where we are in relation to the media landscape we’ve built but can’t control, and which only half of us can find our way around.”

https://www.alternet.org/2022/04/birds-arent-real-how-a-mock-conspiracy-theory-caught-on-with-the-far-right-report/

13 minutes ago, Tracker said:

Math is racist

Have to keep them ignorant to keep them voting GOP. 

9 minutes ago, JCon said:

Have to keep them ignorant to keep them voting GOP. 

Florida former governor rick scott, owned a health care company, which was convicted of fraud, and was fined.

"The fine clearly set a record, though the Justice Department (and media reports at the time) were not always consistent in their terminology, sometimes describing it as the "largest government fraud settlement in U.S. History" and other times more specifically as the "largest health care fraud case in U.S. History."...1.7 billion dollars.

after that.... florida elected him governor, and now senator.

 

truly moronic.

 

 

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Tucker Carlson Goes Nuts For '******** Tanning' And The Internet Has Questions

Tucker Carlson, who recently came under fire for the homoerotic nature of the trailer for his upcoming “documentary,” which highlights the alleged collapse of testosterone levels in men, is under scrutiny again.

In a short clip, Carlson’s guest, Andrew McGovern, said, “If you want to optimize and take it [your testosterone] to another level, expose yourself to red light therapy”:

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/tucker-carlson-********-tanning_n_625cd22ee4b0be72bff7a25f

From Faux News   fanning the flames of racism in the US:

 

It's funny because it's true.

Hunter Biden’s Laptop Was Tampered With And Had Files Added To It

According to an independent investigation and the person who recovered the device, Hunter Biden’s laptop had files added to it after it left his possession.

The Washington Post’s experts and the man who owned the computer repair store both came to the same conclusion that files were added to Hunter Biden’s laptop after it left his possession.

The Washington Post reported:

“The experts found the data had been repeatedly accessed and copied by people other than Hunter Biden over nearly three years,” our report explained, with those we spoke with being unable to “reach definitive conclusions about the contents as a whole, including whether all of it originated from a single computer or could have been assembled from files from multiple computers and put on the portable drive.”
What Mac Isaac said next, though, is what was most noteworthy. When he did his “deep dive,” he said, he “saw a lot of photos” — but “did not see a lot of photos that are being reported to [have been] seen.”

“I do know that there have been multiple attempts over the past year-and-a-half to insert questionable material into the laptop as in, not physically, but passing off this misinformation or disinformation as coming from the laptop,” he said. “And that is a major concern of mine because I have fought tooth and nail to protect the integrity of this drive and to jeopardize that is going to mean that everything that I sacrificed will be for nothing.”
The fact that the laptop was tampered with and there are new warnings from the PC repair shop owner about the possibility that disinformation was inserted on it casts doubt on the authenticity of anything that Republicans are going to attempt to use to impeach President Biden and make him a one-term president.

The Washington Post story also reports that someone tried to add files to the laptop one week after the initial New York Post story was published. The laptop has been corrupted.

At the time that the laptop surfaced, Rudy Guiliani had been working for years to get Russian disinformation into the media about Biden. 

Hunter Biden is a private citizen, he doesn't work in the WH, the idiot former President brought in his ditzy daughter and evil bond character son in law who fleeced the American public.

Biden's approval rating is cratering. November will see one of the houses flipped and probably both. Media should have an easy peasy time over the next couple of years finding juicy leads.

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1 minute ago, GCn20 said:

Biden's approval rating is cratering. November will see one of the houses flipped and probably both. Media should have an easy peasy time over the next couple of years finding juicy leads.

Cratering!!!!!!! CRATERING!!

It hasn't changed in 6 months. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/

3 minutes ago, JCon said:

Cratering!!!!!!! CRATERING!!

It hasn't changed in 6 months. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/

According to Politico his approval rating is somewhere between 37-42%. But for the sake of argument OK, I will change my comment to continues to crater. Happy? Or do you think a 40% approval rating is a good thing?

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1 hour ago, JCon said:

Cratering!!!!!!! CRATERING!!

It hasn't changed in 6 months. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/biden-approval-rating/

The fall in ratings was predicted. The GOP and some of hid own party are sabotaging Biden at every turn and big business is overtly hostile to any change on the status quo. On top of that, Faux News is spreading lie after lie and the rabid right-wing has allied itself with neo-Nazis, fundamentalist churches to disseminated the same BS. To me, it seems that Putin's agenda to make Americans distrustful and cynical about their political system has worked incredibly well. The core message of all these is what our current premier recently said: you're on your own. 

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