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After week 14
Bye Montreal

Rod Pedersen.com
The fourth quarter touchdown by "rookie" Rider Armanti Edwards was his first professional touchdown despite all his years in the National Football League (including four as a receiver in Carolina).  That nugget comes courtesy of the Watauga Democrat newspaper, which I happened to be reading early Monday morning. 
?‍?Geez - for Pedersen and this gem
A lot of things are going on that aren't apparent to the naked eye. Jones will likely be proven to be a genius yet.

CFL Headlines
Edwards: (Drew - not Armanti) Awkward question: are we sure the Ticats are actually good? @scratchingpost #CFL

Collaros has been statistically spectacular since returning from his knee injury six games ago, throwing for an average of 350 yards while posting 16 touchdown passes against six interceptions. But he hasn’t passed the eye test the last two weeks, making questionable decisions and struggling at times with his accuracy.
The team is just 3-3 since he’s been back, the same record they had under backup QB Jeremiah Masoli.
?‍?He brings up blocked punts...4 games in a row, and a questionable secondary. Or a secondary secondary, if you will.
And a question mark on the O-Line. And more injuries. Courtney Stephen and Chad Owens.
Shaky ground for the East's top team. http://3downnation.com/2016/09/19/awkward-question-sure-ticats-actually-good/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

?‍?True words from riderprophet.com Simply put, a team with Reilly, Bowman and Walker should not lose to a team who does not play offense until the 4th quarter.

?‍?What's with the yo-yoing of QB BJ Daniels between Sask to Ham. and back to Saskatchewan?

Mike Beamish
Newest #BCLions defensive back Jeremy Harris was a seventh-round pick by Jacksonville Jaguars out of New Mexico State (2013).

Arash Madani
Let's hope those who came hard after @JDunk12, refuting his report that Jim Popp is done as coach, will apologize with the same vigour. #CFL

Adam Scefter 
Seahawks fined $400,000 for excessive off-season workouts and Pete Carroll fined $200,00 for it.
?‍?Wallace Miles is a free agent..thanks to NFL-induced expanded PR rosters.
Courtney Taylor (BC)..replaced by Sinkfield.

?‍?#4 Bowman sure can make plays out there, and fail on others....

-For the first time all season Trevor Harris was held under 70 and even 60 percent completion percentage in a game. 

Randy Turner
The #Bombers just added receiver named Lonnie Outlaw to practice roster. But I'm not sure how he'll work with an OC named Paul LaPolice.

Blue Bomber History
Jack Jacobs joined the Bombers in 1950 for $6,000 salary and promise that he could play QB. He was a top punter with GB Packers of NFL.

?‍?Adarius bowman picked a bad time to revert with his play last weekend. The guy who can be so good, ended up looking really bad with his attitude and his drops."'nbvf

?‍?Why Edmonton kept Kenzel Doe as a kick returner for so long is beyond me..

?‍?Everybody's talking about the possible extensions of O'Shea and Walters, but not enough attention is being given to Chris Jones extending Darian Durant.

OLB Andy Mulumba and CB Corey Tindal worked out for the #Colts. - Penton

CFL History
In 1915, the #CFL experimented using the latest technology to keep fans in Hamilton aware of the score in the Grey Cup - The Carrier Pigeon
--The experiment failed, when people in Hamilton kept shooting at the pigeons thinking they were German Biplanes invading Ontario #CFL

CFL Communications
The average penalties for the four games in Week 13 was 14.5 per game – the lowest average in a single week this year and the lowest since 2013.

The Hamilton and Montreal game was the second-fastest game of the season, taking two hours and 37 minutes. The fastest game, at two hours and 30 minutes, occurred in Week 11 between Toronto and BC.
Coaches’ challenges were also at a season low with only five plays challenged and two overturned.
Between the four games a total of 232 points were scored, with an average of 58 points per game. That is the second-highest average for a week of games this season, trailing only Week 9 where the average points per game was 59.3.
Week 13 also featured the most rushing yards this season with an average of 219 yards per game.
Toronto and Winnipeg game had six lead changes – tied for the most this season in a single game.
First-time all-year that all four home teams won in a week. In the last 10 games, road teams are 1-9, however they still own the advantage overall this season going 28-24-1 (.528) winning percentage.

This is Calgary’s ninth consecutive season finishing with a record above .500.

Calgary will be finishing their West Division schedule this week and play their final five games against East Division teams.

Ed Tait
“It’s incredible,” said Nichols. “All these guys here want to play for Coach O’Shea. He’s a guy that will go to bat for any of his players at any time. He does a great job and any one of these players would do anything for him and vice versa. I love playing for him and, for me, to have that stability would be great. I’ve bounced around with a lot of coordinators and head coaches in my career and I feel like we have a good one here.”

?‍?Perhaps, one of the biggest reason we might have lost out on acquiring Terrell Sinkfield was at the QB position. He could choose between Collaros and Jennings, and in the end, BC had more money to throw at him..
Mike Beamish - The Province

?‍?Absolute worst play of the week, the losing of the game ball award, goes to Adarius Bowman for that weak-kneed fight for the ball after a first down catch. Bowman, literally lost the game ball by allowing the DB, Gainey, to rip it out of his arms, and score a TD. Bowman, spun, and went to the bench. Shoddy effort in a close game. Cost? 7 points
Ding ding ding, this just in - we have a close contender. Johnny Adams trying to half swat a moving ball and giving up a sure turnover.. Cost? 3 points.

Rod Pedersen
A tip I got on Wednesday morning is that two other teams are preparing contract offers for Darian Durant for this off-season.  The Riders are expected to offer Durant a contract with a lower base salary, and laden with incentives (primarily based on starts) while at least one other team will try to entice Durant with a much higher base salary.  Then it's going to be up to him to decide.

?‍?Huh? The Argos are 5-2 in their seven matchups against the REDBLACKS since Ottawa’s return to the league in 2014. Yet since then, Harris has played for both teams at quarterback and has never lost to either Toronto or Ottawa. - CFL Staff

The potential of this team has definitely not been reached yet. - Weston Dressler

The Stamps have started just four different quarterbacks in games against the Bombers dating back to 2008: Henry Burris (7 GP), Drew Tate (1 GP), Kevin Glenn (3 GP) and Mitchell (8 GP) who have combined to go 16-3 over that stretch.

Over that same span the Bombers have started 14 different QBs: Drew Willy (4 GP), Joey Elliott (3 GP), Ryan Dinwiddie, Kevin Glenn, Stefan LeFors, Michael Bishop, Steven Jyles, Buck Pierce, Alex Brink, Justin Goltz, Max Hall, Brian Brohm, Robert Marve and Matt Nichols (1 GP). Tait

Argonauts.ca
The Argos defence allowed just one touchdown on the night, holding the opposition to just 15 points prior to Trevor Harris’ one-yard rushing touchdown in the fourth quarter. The Redblacks converted just one of four red zone opportunities on the night.
The Argos offensive line held the Redblacks without a sack in Friday’s game, marking the first time this season they’ve prevented their opponents from registering a single sack.

No update on OL SirVincent Rogers from Rick Campbell other than "it looks like a real injury". Not good. #RNation #CFL

CFL.ca
Running the ball was an issue for the Lions, who entered the night as the CFL’s number one rushing team, as BC managed only 69 yards on the ground, including 41 for Johnson on only eight attempts.
?‍?With the victory, Edmonton sets up a big, big game next Friday in Winnipeg. The game will be huge for both teams.

CFL.ca
Over the past 3 weeks, CFL games have taken less time to play, primarily due to many fewer penalties and coaches’ challenges. They have taken just 2:48 to play and penalties and challenges have averaged 20.15 penalties (all calls) and 2.00 challenges (an 18% drop in challenges).
-After an extraordinarily high start with accepted penalties coming at 20.7 per game through Week #4, they have averaged only 18.1 per game since then, a drop of 13% across the season. Through Week #13 accepted penalties have declined to a season cumulative low of 18.9 per game, the lowest since the final week of 2014. Week #13 was a season-low 14.5 per game.

?‍?BLM - <<< he said this "They're finding out who they are and we're going to continue to show that to them." at halftime in the Bomber game.?
?‍?To which Matt Nichols answered “I don’t really care what they have to say,” Nichols said. “We’re a good football team and I look forward to playing these guys again.”

Jeff Hamilton
Asked if the Bombers proved anything in that second half, Mike O'Shea said nothing they didn't already know. No quitters in the room.
-Lots felt they sent a message to the Stamps. Many believe they expect to see them again this year. #playoffs
-Jamaal Westerman called the first half a shitshow from the top down. Said if they played bad they would have won. They played horrible.

(Jamaal Westerman was the man BLM was aiming his wrath towards at halftime)
"Specifically, it was a very certain player who was hitting people after the whistle, chirping, holding guys down, trying to do stuff and playing dirty like he always does." BLM
Daniel Austin -Calgary Herald
+1: The Bombers turnover ratio in the game, pushing their season total to +26. The club record is +27, set in 1987.

Sept. 25 CFL.ca Staff
“What we’ve got to do is put it all together.”
"I'm a believer. I think we're going to come back and get hot" - Scott Milanovich.

“I felt good,” said Willy. “Any time you get to play it’s fun to be out there. I wish we could’ve gotten the win .  I thought we did some good things in the second half but obviously it wasn’t enough.
“I haven’t thrown to a single one of those guys in practice. They’re very, very talented, so I just need to learn their body language and I think we’ll do some good things.”

Rob Vanstone re-tweeted:
Old habits... John Chick started running towards home tunnel at half time. #Riders #Ticats #CFLGameDay

?‍?This point cannot be hammered in enough..
Bomber Buzz
Stamps’ returner Roy Finch averaged 34.2 yards-per-return on kickoffs and 11.5 yards-per-return on punt returns, as the Stamps only ever had to drive half the field for the entire first half.
The Bombers don’t need to score 27 points in the second half if their special-teams aren’t a garbage fire for the opening 40 minutes.
-Coach Hall is going to have to re-evaluate his approach to stopping the Stamps in future games.

BC Lions re-tweeted Baron Von Awesome
Seems #CFL fans have digressed. We no longer give credit to winning teams. 
We either beat ourselves, or blame referees for our team losses.

?‍?Drew Edwards tweets
Edwards: Depleted Ticats lose to Riders on last-second field goal bit.ly/2cWtn6R @scratchingpost #CFL
?‍?But Drew, weren't the Riders depleted also?

?‍? Have to ask. What's up with Johnny Adams this year? Head not into it yet?

?‍?"It’s been a while since we lost and so it’s a bad feeling right now. It’s a bad taste I want to get out of my mouth right now. I’m ready to play Edmonton." - Jermarcus Hardrick
?‍? By the way, now I can say it. 
Back in Feb. 2016 the Bombers announced the signing of Jermarcus Hardrick. A 6'6" 320 Nebraska product. 
He started with BC in 2014 - 12 games, then in 2015, went to Saskatchewan, 10 starts in 12 games.
I had to wonder...what was wrong with this guy, and why did we sign him. 3 teams in 3 years.
I'm not wondering anymore. Great team guy, and seems to be the answer at R. tackle. Whoever is responsible for this scouting..thank you.

Blue Bombers.com
"We’ve got to find a way to start faster,” said Bombers head coach Mike O’Shea. “I’ve got to do a better job of making sure that practice week is conducted in a manner that allows us to start faster."

Ed Tait's Numbers Game

8.6: Yards per carry by Bombers RB Timothy Flanders, who finished the afternoon with 95 yards on 11 carries, including a 50-yard touchdown run.

+1: The Bombers turnover ratio in the game, pushing their season total to +26. The club record is +27, set in 1987.

1-14: Winnipeg’s record at McMahon in their last 15 starts. The Bombers are now 3-23 in Calgary dating back to 1992.

6-95: Ryan Smith’s receiving totals, his best as a Bomber.

?‍? I might add 60. As Mike O'Shea said: "Play 60 minutes and have a smile on your face."

Marquay McDaniel
Just saw the replay. If the tip of the ball hit the ground then you would've seen black pebbles pop up. Dez caught it and I caught it.

Derek Taylor
It's not much, but there has to be zero tolerance for hitting an official. Zero.  #Ticats #CFL
?‍? Did It deserve an ejection? How many actually saw it?

CFL Headlines
@CFLHistory  Do you have a website or blog page?
@CFL_Headlines We do not, this way we can recycle tweets from years ago, without anyone knowing.

Josh Smith -3downnation
Brett Maher did not have a punt blocked against Saskatchewan. So the ignominious streak ends at four games. That’s worth at least a Bronx cheer.

?‍? Another reminder to Chris Jones:
Chick, who is now tied for the league lead in sacks with Shawn Lemon, Alex Bazzie and Charleston Hughes with 10, has been a force on defense for the Ticats in almost every game. - Josh Smith

Ed Tait
-lost in the Bombers’ recent run was an accomplishment by Denmark we need to point out here. Denmark has quietly moved into the club’s Top 10 receiving-yardage list, passing Bomber hall of famers Ken ‘Doc’ Nielsen, who played from 1965-70, and Gerald Wilcox, who starred from 1992-97, to move into ninth place.

Next bye - Week 15
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51 minutes ago, Brandon said:

Or he can get an extra 30 grand signing bonus and then retire with a career advertising booster juice for the club :P

Who knows?

To be fair, I think the Ryan Smith experiment is over after this year.

33 minutes ago, Mike said:

To be fair, I think the Ryan Smith experiment is over after this year.

I wouldn't mind keeping him over dressler to be honest. Just due to dresslers age. But yeah I don't think both of them will be on the team next year.

1 hour ago, Bigblue204 said:

I wouldn't mind keeping him over dressler to be honest. Just due to dresslers age. But yeah I don't think both of them will be on the team next year.

I'd mind based on production. If the Bombers were to let their top receiver go to keep a guy who gets hurt as much as Smith does, I wouldn't be happy. 

29 minutes ago, Bomberfan85 said:

I'd mind based on production. If the Bombers were to let their top receiver go to keep a guy who gets hurt as much as Smith does, I wouldn't be happy. 

This is true. 

4 hours ago, Mike said:

To be fair, I think the Ryan Smith experiment is over after this year.

What if he lights it up going forward?

20 minutes ago, Brandon said:

What if he lights it up going forward?

and in fairness, he put up good numbers last week....

5 hours ago, Mike said:

To be fair, I think the Ryan Smith experiment is over after this year.

2 weeks ago you were telling everyone he gets open whenever he wants... now he's on the way out?

16 minutes ago, Atomic said:

2 weeks ago you were telling everyone he gets open whenever he wants... now he's on the way out?

It might have more to do with having so much money tied up in our WR's and an improving secondary with some expiring contracts (next year) and some guys may be looking for raises and extensions.

1 minute ago, Nash00 said:

It might have more to do with having so much money tied up in our WR's and an improving secondary with some expiring contracts (next year) and some guys may be looking for raises and extensions.

Who in our secondary has an expiring contract and would be seeking a raise?  Randle is already paid handsomely.  B. Johnson just extended through 2018 last year.  Frederick, Roberts, Fogg, and Heath are all on the first year of their contracts and none of them are likely one-year deals.  Loffler is in year one, as well.

7 minutes ago, Atomic said:

Who in our secondary has an expiring contract and would be seeking a raise?  Randle is already paid handsomely.  B. Johnson just extended through 2018 last year.  Frederick, Roberts, Fogg, and Heath are all on the first year of their contracts and none of them are likely one-year deals.  Loffler is in year one, as well.

If Frederick, Roberts, Fogg, and Heath are on 2 year deals then next year you need to look at freeing up money to extend them. They won't come cheap either if they continue on their current trajectory.

I'm not campaigning to get Smith out of here and I won't speak for Mike and his rationale for his comment but my guess would be that a decision on Smith (or Dressler) would be based on how much money they want to allocate to their WR's.

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5 hours ago, Bigblue204 said:

I wouldn't mind keeping him over dressler to be honest. Just due to dresslers age. But yeah I don't think both of them will be on the team next year.

Dressler is twice the receiver Smith is regardless of age.

I don't have a crystal ball but I see Dressler playing another three to four years controlling for injury and/or will.

There's no way I give this guy up. Extend him for another two years.

2 hours ago, HardCoreBlue said:

Dressler is twice the receiver Smith is regardless of age.

I don't have a crystal ball but I see Dressler playing another three to four years controlling for injury and/or will.

There's no way I give this guy up. Extend him for another two years.

But, but, Jones got rid of him and well, y'know, Jones is a genius and couldn't possibly have made a mistake getting rid of Dressler when he did. :rolleyes:

The biggest liability Dressler has is his age. He's not ancient by any means, but he is playing a position where he gets hit a lot by guys bigger than he is and as we age, it takes longer and longer for owies to heal.

10 hours ago, Mike said:

To be fair, I think the Ryan Smith experiment is over after this year.

Smith is a talented receiver but I really believe our receivers have to get bigger & more physical even though the rules on PI & incidental contact have largely taken away the physicality of the defensive backs that cover them. I'll take a 6'3 receiver over a 5'10 one in a heartbeat if they have great hands just because the size & weight differential can be a real advantage when the ball is on a high trajectory. The receiver can just go up & get it. Wall out the DB covering him. You just have to look at the Stampeders & their passing attack to see what I mean.

2 hours ago, iso_55 said:

Smith is a talented receiver but I really believe our receivers have to get bigger & more physical even though the rules on PI & incidental contact have largely taken away the physicality of the defensive backs that cover them. I'll take a 6'3 receiver over a 5'10 one in a heartbeat if they have great hands just because the size & weight differential can be a real advantage when the ball is on a high trajectory. The receiver can just go up & get it. Wall out the DB covering him. You just have to look at the Stampeders & their passing attack to see what I mean.

Size isnt nearly the same as durability. Look at blink. Look at darvin adams, nic moore, addison richards, keeping, neufeld, etc etc etc. 

 Both willy and nichols in this system have tended to throw passes that put WRs in a dangerous position, one that means they dive to make catches or stretch out and cant protect them self while making a catch. 

By that standard we wouldnt have had milt, albert johnson 3, arland bruce, geroy simon, terrence edwards.

Of the top 10 wrs in the cfl right now this is how it breaks down;

6'3 or over.  under.  6' or less.

3                    7          3

Duron carter, and adarius bowman the bigest head case at wr, and the worst hands of any consistant cfl starter are 2 of the 3 6'3 or taller. Greg ellingson is the 3rd.  So as many short wrs as tall in the top 10. In fact the three short guys are 5'9-5'11. But height, includes forehead. If Smith had a mega forehead adding 4 inches to his height, that would make you happy? Wing span is far more important then height, and size as i showed in the start of the post doesnt mean some one is durable. 

The top 10 wrs in the cfl average 6'0 and 197 pounds. 

 You know how many 6'3+ imp wrs who produce stick in the cfl? ask chris mathews. 

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32 minutes ago, wbbfan said:

Both willy and nichols in this system have tended to throw passes that put WRs in a dangerous position, one that means they dive to make catches or stretch out and cant protect them self while making a catch. 

That is BS...you make it sound like that happens virtually every play....you obviously don't know as much as you try to make us think you do...when did you say Lapo is getting fired and replaced by Buck?

I don't recall a lot of throws where our qbs have left our receivers in vulnerable positions. I just said I prefer bigger targets at slot & wideout.

13 hours ago, iso_55 said:

Smith is a talented receiver but I really believe our receivers have to get bigger & more physical even though the rules on PI & incidental contact have largely taken away the physicality of the defensive backs that cover them. I'll take a 6'3 receiver over a 5'10 one in a heartbeat if they have great hands just because the size & weight differential can be a real advantage when the ball is on a high trajectory. The receiver can just go up & get it. Wall out the DB covering him. You just have to look at the Stampeders & their passing attack to see what I mean.

I bet both Dressler and Smith wish they were 5'10...  ;)

10 hours ago, iso_55 said:

I don't recall a lot of throws where our qbs have left our receivers in vulnerable positions. I just said I prefer bigger targets at slot & wideout.

when you have to stretch out to make a catch, or dive to make an attempt your vulnerable. our wrs have seen a whole lot of that this year. 

I prefer good players to size. 

Why Ryan Smith?

Because at this point, I'm keeping Darvin Adams (who is a FA) over Smith and it's pretty obvious by our scouting and targeting in trades recently (Quinshad Davis, MeKale McKay) that they still want to add some size to the group we have.

Plus we have a second year out of Thomas Mayo.

My group of receivers, if I had my way next year, would be Adams-Dressler-Mayo/Denmark-recruit-Canadian

There just isn't room for Smith, to be honest. Even though I think he's great when he's healthy.

 

21 minutes ago, Mike said:

Why Ryan Smith?

Because at this point, I'm keeping Darvin Adams (who is a FA) over Smith and it's pretty obvious by our scouting and targeting in trades recently (Quinshad Davis, MeKale McKay) that they still want to add some size to the group we have.

Plus we have a second year out of Thomas Mayo.

My group of receivers, if I had my way next year, would be Adams-Dressler-Mayo/Denmark-recruit-Canadian

There just isn't room for Smith, to be honest. Even though I think he's great when he's healthy.

 

Sincere question: Denny over Smith because of $$ or ability? 

I hope we look at starting an All-American receiving corps if possible, because our Canadian receivers are... not good.

Thing about Smith is he is a Mike OShea guy. He is everything he wants in a football player. Will be around.

28 minutes ago, Atomic said:

I hope we look at starting an All-American receiving corps if possible, because our Canadian receivers are... not good.

JFG made several clutch catches, two that were late drive game winners. so he's.......good.

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