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7 minutes ago, bluto said:
Bishop isn't part of the 1-10 scale.
Tom Brady was quoted saying "It is the strongest arm I've ever seen."
(which means a bit more than just having me say that I watched him at practice effortlessly tossing 50 yard darts.)
Bishop and Brock are not fair comparisons for any QB. They were outliers.
37 minutes ago, 17to85 said:Yeah if dolegala has an exceptional arm then so does everyone in the cfl minus faj.
He does have above average arm strength. He has a live arm. That's not to say he uses that attribute well or often.
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42 minutes ago, Geebrr said:
I’m not talking about Michael Bishop.
Im talking about Dolegala.
I’m not mistaking anything. His arm strength is not exceptional. There have been plenty of guys who are said to have strong arms, they get up here and they don’t.
IDGAF what some random scouting report online said. Most of them have stuff that contradicts itself within the same report.
It's not one scouting report, it's all of them, along with numerous coaches quotes, and articles from his time in the NFL and CFL all stating he has a cannon for an arm. Just telling you what virtually everyone in the football world says about him, You, of course, are entitled to your own opinion.
https://leaderpost.com/sports/football/cfl/saskatchewan-roughriders/sports-col-davis-riders-qb-issue
https://centralrecorder.org/67439/sports/jake-dolegalas-road-to-nfl/
Some articles detailing his arm strength including direct quotes from the Bengals scout that recruited him. I am not doubting what you saw, JD did not showcase his arm strength very much with the Riders however he does possess well above average arm strength.
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7 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:
I actually think they would have likely been bottom feeders had Collaros stayed healthy. Remember that the way he played there is not the same way he's played here. And from his account, it wasn't his choice.
Fajardo was allowed to run around and scramble and play to his strengths. Collaros wasnt necessarily given that freedom.
We will never know for sure, however, Collaros had a fantastic TC that year and looked like he was finally 100% before Simoni turned out the lights.
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38 minutes ago, Booch said:
I am confident who we find for that spot will work out, and if a reclaim project that once here....will be well above average.
History with this regime/coaching staff has shown we make O-line guys productive...Hardrick had a foot out the door of the league until we brought him in...Chungh was good here....has been a bust in B.C...Kolo was discarded and unwanted, and tho not a world beater was part of Best oline in CFL.....Bond was a machine here....did squat elsewhere....even Speller....undrafted...unwanted....picked up off scrap heap....Anchored our line at center for a Cup win...we loose Goosen unexpectedly to retirement...we have Couture step in and be stellar
We will make it work I am sure...plus our recent draft success with olineman has shown we see the guys who project to be legit....Would be funny if Loften came in here for 85k...Anchored the right side of the best line again while Hardrick shows more decline and that line flounders with his 235k price tag...I can actually see that occurring to be honest
Our OL coaching is the best in the league. If Lofton is the guy he will play well because our system maximizes each guys strengths and works hard to minimize their weaknesses. Playing next to Neufeld makes our RT spot a lot easier to play. There is a reason guys off the scrap heap excel here, and it is because our system allows them to do so. Not worried about one spot on the OL. We will be OK. Sask OL coaching and interior talent has been abysmal, and even competent OTs go there and find career death because of it.
11 minutes ago, Bigblue204 said:Why did they want Hardrick? Or Kolo? Why do you insist on ignoring very recent history of the team doing this and being successful at it?
I'm not sure why everyone is assuming we brought in Lofton and have him pencilled into the starting lineup. Some FA grabs are for depth.
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Just now, Fatty Liver said:
That was 2019, Fajardo led the Riders to a 13-5 record and lost on the last play of the West Finals to a Collaros lead Bomber team. That was a miracle season for both teams, the wheels started to fall off for the Riders the next off-season.
The wheels fell off when ZC was no longer their QB. Yes, Cody took them to 13-5 but a healthy Collaros all season long may have gotten them a Grey Cup and then we all know what Cody did the year after.
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9 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:
I think Sask. will show marked improvement this season, looks like Mace will stem the flow and get them back on the right track, might not be great this year but they should compete for 3rd place if Harris can remain healthy. Hard to determine who will be the weak sisters this season, the majority of teams look to have improved their overall roster, exceptions being the Bombers, Argos, Stamps and maybe the Lions.
FA rarely tells us who will be better or worse in the upcoming season. FA winners have not been very good in the standings for many years now because without solid recruitment to go with that it is not a way to build a team. Toronto, BC, and the Bombers have taken hits in FA and I expect all 3 teams will be near the top of the standings.
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1 hour ago, Geebrr said:
Well quite honestly IDGAF about those — I’ve seen it live and on TV enough to not have my hair blown back by it.
Don't mistake throwing style for throwing strength. The guy has a cannon. Yep he put a lot of air on deep throws but that's more a function of not being able to throw accurately on a rope so he intentionally gives it air so the receiver can adjust.
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2 minutes ago, Fatty Liver said:
Don't think Lofton was necessarily a bright spot, but during the second half of the season he played well enough at LT that he was a consistent starter on a hodge-podge Rider O-line that changed personnel almost on a weekly basis. He might not be a star, but he is an experienced competent player that has the ability to play both Tackle positions and remain healthy.
His PFF was not bad. Middle of the CFL road on a poor OL. He was playing above the curve on his unit. Over here he will be competing at an easier OT position. Like I said earlier, not going to do cartwheels for us grabbing him but it's not a terrible move either.
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5 minutes ago, JohnnyAbonny said:
I doubt it. There’s already a guy with much more pedigree brought in as well.
If he was going to be that, I think they’d have kept him over Richmond.
For sure. Lofton is only 30. If we had some Jackson-esque type love for him we wouldn't have cut him loose in the first place.
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18 minutes ago, Booch said:
have to agree...he couldnt unseat Hardrick and Bryant here...who in the league could have...then he went to MTL and wasnt half bad....then 2 crap olines in Ott and Sask
I tend to trust our judgement on oline guys based on what we have seen the last 6..7 yrs...He will be on a line with all quality guys, quality coaching and winning environment....maybe this is his finally getting it moment...and I sure he comes in cheap to boot
Eric Lofton actually was a bright spot on the Riders OL last year. It was their interior OL that was god awful. I'm not suggesting he's some great player, but he isn't as bad as some around here are making him out to be. The Riders got truly awful OT play from Council, Kelly and others but when Lofton took over at LT he wasn't half bad. Having another look at him isn't the worst idea.
I think too much has been read into this signing. We lost Richmond who was our insurance policy for both OT spots. We need to fill his spot as well. Lofton would be a very good option for that.
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11 minutes ago, HardCoreBlue said:
Your one sentence nicely sums it up.
I'm looking forward to the heated battles for spots up for grabs.
For sure. This is the year to do it as well. Walters knows darn well that there are going to be a bumper crop of blue chippers coming into the league this year with the near demise of spring football. Our recruitment will have options not seen in several years, so will every other CFL team. TC cuts around the league are going to be better than they have been in years as well. Should our own recruitment not unearth the next JJ, Ricky Walker or Winston Rose etc. this year will give us options through camp cuts that haven't been there in several years. Walters played this right.
For instance, think how many teams are set at DE and DT already. There are going to be teams releasing some good recruits at those positions just by virtue of the numbers game.
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1 hour ago, Booch said:
signing some of our own are huge signings....as other teams were prepared to pay a ransom for them....thats not to be understated..those were technically 2 the top free agaents on the market this yr....can't fault us that they were our own guys
As @Mike said...Strev is a huuuge pick up...and dirt cheap...trust me when you see him this spring you will be amazed at his transformation....and he is huge for locker room continuity and keeping the culture chugging.
As much as many liked Brown....he wasn't our future....and Strev this yr is gonna offer a ton...way more than Brown would have
and yup...another huge thing is Ford back...and expect him extended at some point....he offers a ton of value and ability for us to do some different things
if any other team had signed BO...Schoen and Strev for 580k...TOTAL...We would have all said they killed it in free agency....so obviouslywe must have....no?
When the really big fish are your own guys it tends to make FA a little dull. I mean we could have been like Toronto and let all our young great players sign elsewhere then be super active in FA trying to fill the crater they leave and declare ourselves FA winners despite getting inferior talent back. I prefer the way Walters did it.
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16 minutes ago, blue85gold said:
That's it right there. He can get it deep it just takes a while to get there.
Dolegala's arm strength is the only reason he is still in this league. He has a 2 cent brain and accuracy problems, but the guy can throw hard.
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5 minutes ago, Geebrr said:
He doesn’t have Dunigan’s arm, McManus’ arm.
Those are exceptional arm strengths.
We weren’t talking accuracy.
Quite frankly he has a long wind up as well.
Heavy balls Cornelius probably had better arm strength.
His NFL scouting reports, Bengals TC reports, and pretty much every article written about him all suggest otherwise. The guy has a very good arm. Just doesn't know how to use it.
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20 hours ago, rebusrankin said:
If Simoni hadn't cheapshoted ZC in game 1 of 2019, we may never have had ZC and might still be in a cup drought. I for one would like to thank Lawrence for his contribution to Winnipeg Blue Bomber football.
He also completely derailed the Rider franchise by taking ZC out. ZC was finally healthy and who knows what he might have done in Regina that year. However, at the end of the day good riddance to a guy the league should have gotten rid of a long time ago.
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13 hours ago, Geebrr said:
His arm didn’t look that exceptional.
Michael Bishop’s arm was exceptional.
He has a big arm. Not Michael Bishop big but he can throw it. Not that it means anything though if you can't make the right reads or deliver it with accuracy.
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2 hours ago, SpeedFlex27 said:
We had Bailey on a pretty cheap deal so anyone who replaces him would be the same or more expensive. Then why get rid of him? I'm really trying to figure out what is going on with the Bombers & free agancy. In the recent history of free agency going back ten years, I don't think I've ever seen a team sign no one.
I think that signing Schoen, and BO are two pretty big fish. Yes, they played here last year but both had hit the open market at the time we re-signed them. I mean it's not too hard to figure out why we didn't go on any kind of a spending spree, look at our roster. Compare it to other teams and you will see a great deal of the high end talent was already here. The top 2-3 teams in the league rarely get better in FA, they are fending off the jackals and hyenas from picking their roster apart. Take a look at TO, and BC who have hemmoraged top end talent in comparison, and only started adding back because they were picked over. We retained the majority of our talent and thus had little need to go splashing around in the overpriced market of FA. That being said Streveler, and Ford are two very big additions as well.
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4 minutes ago, Arnold_Palmer said:
Good deal for the Argos!
I'd say fair market value, in line with what we paid the GOAT before this season. Sask blowing their brains out for Yoshi is just a stupid pay and everyone knew it. It didn't set the market.
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4 minutes ago, 17to85 said:
I count yoshi. He didn't develop in his stops before winnipeg. The Bombers made him the player he is.
Fair.
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47 minutes ago, bigg jay said:
We didn't develop January either, he just spent the most time with us (much like Neufeld has). January started 28 games between Sask & Toronto before we got him.
Yea..last impactful developed by us OT I can remember is Dan Goodspeed
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I have absolutely no issues with us turning over 6 starting spots and some backup/teams positions. Our scouting and drafting can bring in enough talent to cover that. We needed a bit of a roster reset in the sake of longer term continuity.
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1 hour ago, Wanna-B-Fanboy said:
Probably, but is BOLO better than Demski? Better than Woli?
I feel he was a victim of timing- kind of like Dru.
Bingo. To be the man you gotta beat the man.
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It was an interception almost definitely. The DB was cutting under him and the receiver had made zero effort to come back to the ball to prevent it.
It's the Rider motto:
Translated from latin this is the Riders motto:
"Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory"