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  1. Week 13 - Non-Champ Edition

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    1 hour ago, Brandon said:

    The best part was Suitor talking about how had Grymes made that interception against us how it may of changed the end result of that game.  The very next play Hamilton drops a bomb with Grymes completely out of position :)

     

    What I loved was that Suitor said, at least three times, that there were 8 minutes left when Grymes dropped the ball. There was actually 11:23 when he dropped it, but it makes it sound like Edm was closer to winning if there were 8. He also said that Edm was close to beating us twice. Not sure how he figures that?? 🤷‍♂️

  8. 2019-20 CFL Offseason

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    10 minutes ago, Noeller said:

    Seconded...I was all kinds of concerned there. Good for Runnin' Ryan Win-widdie, too.....I mean, seriously......in 2007/2008, whodathunk? 

    I think the most incredible thing about this news is that all three QBs who dressed for us in the 2007 Grey Cup are now head coaches of professional* teams! 

     

    * Note that "professional" is used loosely in the case of the Cincinnati Bengals and Toronto Argonauts.

  9. 2019-20 CFL Offseason

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    1 hour ago, Throw Long Bannatyne said:

    If Collaros doesn't pause for serious reconsideration before signing an Argo contract his brain is perhaps damaged well beyond repair, nothing good can come of it.  The Argos had to be near the bottom of the barrel in number of sacks given up last season, the only logical reason MBT survived the abuse is because he is actually an automaton named after his 3 constructors, McLeod , Bethel and Thompson.   Sadly Zach probably won't last long.

    Hey, I'm not going to argue against that. Not saying that going to the Argos would be a smart move. Just trying to say that his decision might be more motivated by personal reasons than anything else. And it'd tough to live up to the legacy he already created here. But since I don't know him, I obviously don't know what his motivations would be.

  10. 2019-20 CFL Offseason

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    27 minutes ago, Mike said:

    They could easily fix it if they wanted to and they're choosing not to. Give teams a window to negotiate with free agents prior to the opening of free agency. Lets players determine their worth, lets teams structure their budget and roster. Easiest solution but in all honesty, who cares. Just open free agency the Monday after the season ends, what difference does it really make. Baseball does it.

    The only difference is that having free agency in February keeps people and media talking about the league in February. But, I agree that they could easily fix the tampering if they wanted to, but they are not serious enough about wanting to. After Toronto traded ZC to Winnipeg, Pinball openly said that they expect to sign Collaros. If that's not tampering, I don't know what is.

    As for Collaros himself, I'm not sure he would want to come back to Winnipeg anyway. If you look at it from his perspective, he came here, he won 4 out of 4 games and helped end a 29 year Grey Cup drought. You cannot have a more perfect stint with a team than that. It can only go down from there. I don't think it would be anything personal against the Bombers or their fans. And I would never hold that against him. He will always be a legend for what he did! Add in the fact that his wife is from Southern Ontario, and I just don't see him coming back next year. Of course, I'm no expert, so I could also be very wrong about it. 

  11. 2019 GREY CUP CHAMPIONS!!!

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    Posted · Edited by The Ginge

    I don't post much, but I read pretty much every comment made on MBB.

    I just have to say that I'm still coming to grips with the fact that we are Grey Cup Champs!

    After the last game against Hamilton, I was really down, sitting in the stands and questioning how such a promising season could have gone so wrong, how a team could be so cursed. My wife said that all teams have losses like this and to stay positive.

    Trading for Collaros provided some hope. Didn't quite know what to expect though. 4 games later, and he will go down as a Blue Bomber legend! The way Lapo used him and Streveler was brilliant!

    Andrew Harris played the game of a lifetime in the Grey Cup (or for Harris, a game he has 5 times a season)! Couldn't have asked for a better performance! And screw all of the haters!

    The D was amazing in the playoff run! Props to Richie Hall for coming through big time when it counted! Jefferson and Jeffcoat were absolute BEASTS in the GC! Giving up 3 tds in 3 games? Crazy! 

    Medlock was money all playoffs. Thought he should have been an all-star for his punting. But now he's Grey Cup champ, so I'm sure he'd take that in a heartbeat.

    It's funny how things turn out. I've been a season ticket holder for 12 seasons. A fan for much, much longer than that. I've been through so many ups and downs (many more downs). Of all of the years that we could have won the cup, so many crazy things had to happen right this year to do it! This was our year!

    Winnipeg Blue Bombers, 2019 Grey Cup Champions! Has such a good ring to it! 😁

  13. Banjo Bowl - GAME DAY THREAD

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    1 hour ago, Floyd said:

    Nichols would have been sacked deep in that first drive and we would have been battling field position for the 1st Q at least... instead strev runs for 20 yards and marches the field. Love it

    Yup, Nichols would not have made that run. And it pumped the team and the crowd up! I did love it! But to say that we would have been battling for field position the 1st quarter doesn't take into account that Sask probably would have played different d on the first play and might not have sacked Nichols. Or that Nichols doesn't make a 17 yard completion. Again, both players bring different things. And if Nichols is healthy and starting, I think we should use Streveler more, especially later in games.

    34 minutes ago, 17to85 said:

    why are we pretending that the guy who has won a **** ton of games for this team over the last few years and this year as well wouldn't have been able to beat the Riders? Just because Streveler ran a bunch doesn't mean that it was the only option available and that Nichols would have been in those exact same situations. 

    Both of our QBs have shown themselves capable of winning games. It's a good thing here folks and you don't have to choose just one, you can support both players. 

    This. We are 9-3 this year utilizing both qbs. We have good d, good special teams, and a reliable offense that is capable of putting up points. And two quarterbacks who can and have won us games.

  14. Banjo Bowl - GAME DAY THREAD

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    4 hours ago, Goalie said:

    I mean.. If we are being honest... Nichols hurt himself last year falling down by himself in practice. U should watch the play again.. Nichols held on to the ball 2 long. Hes injury prone. It is what it is and hes def regressed since injuring himself. 

    And Masoli injured himself for the season falling down by himself in a game. What's your point? Streveler held the ball too long in the LDC and got hit from behind. Could have had the same outcome as the Nichols hit. All depends on where exactly you land when you have a 320 pound man falling on you with all of his weight. Has nothing to do with being "injury prone".

    Streveler and Nichols bring different things to the table. I believe that we would have won Banjo Bowl just as easily with Nichols, and likely would have won LDC. I'm glad to see Streveler improving, but he still has a long way to go in the passing game. But would Nichols have been able to make the 20 yard runs (or many of the runs) that Streveler makes? Heck no.

  15. Banjo Bowl - GAME DAY THREAD

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    10 minutes ago, Mr Dee said:

    He’s playing like he wants player of the month..two months in a row. If it wasn’t for the bye, he might have gotten it. (Still might)

    He might be the best defensive player I’ve ever seen. The best sequence of the game for me was Jefferson forcing the fumble on the strip sack, then while the scrum was still going on for the ball, him running away, celebrating and then doing a backflip! What a beast!

  16. Labour Day Classic GAMEDAY THREAD

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    2 hours ago, TBURGESS said:

    His head comes up. He takes 2 or 3 steps before getting hit. How many steps does he get to take before he gets hit? 4? 5? 6?

    He hardly takes 2 or 3 steps. From the side camera angle, he gets contacted in the midst of his first step after the snap, or at the most, as he has just taken his first step. His head might be up at the point of contact, but it has only been up for a split second at that point. 

    Further, the rule "Delivering a forcible blow to the long snapper while their head is down and they are in a vulnerable position and unable to protect them self," is part of the unnecessary roughness rule, which also states that: "A player shall be penalized for any act of unnecessary roughness against an opponent, including but not limited to:" and "Any other act of roughness or unfair play, provided it is not considered excessive enough to warrant disqualification." So to anybody defending that it was not a penalty as defined in the rule book, the refs were well within their right to flag - and they should have flagged - that hit simply based on the unnecessary roughness definition.

  17. Regular Season Bomber News

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    2 hours ago, Mr Dee said:

    👁‍🗨And, this well explained article.. This is not so good..

    After five weeks, the Bombers rank last in passing yards per game and seventh in passing yards against per game. They also have given up 27 20-plus yard completions, double than any other CFL team.

     

    I wouldn't put too much stock into the above statistic... the stats are from the weekly CFL Statistics file, but this one is clearly wrong. If you look at the total passing stats against, opponents are 100 of 169 for 1,291 yards. But if you add up the opponent breakdown, it is 64 of 89 for 522 yards at 0-9 yards downfield, 26 of 49 for 406 yards at 10-19 yards downfield, and 27 of 62 for 533 yards at 20+ yards downfield, which is 117 of 200 for 1,461 yards. There are 17 completions, 31 attempts, and 170 yards unaccounted for. If you take those out of the 20+ yards category, that comes to opponents being 10 of 31 for 363 yards. Which would be a 36.3 average yards per completion, which also makes more sense than the 19.7 yards per completion of 20+ yards downfield of the original stat.

    That said, I'm not saying the Bombers haven't had some issues on defence this year. The long completions Toronto completed were extremely frustrating, and allowed them to marginally get back in the game. But you cannot necessarily trust the stats package the CFL puts out (and the media uses, usually without a critical eye). I found a few errors throughout the season last year as well. I also really only focus on the Bombers stats, so there may be more errors that I'm missing.

  18. GDT: EDMONTON @ WINNIPEG

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    1 hour ago, bearpants said:

    this is such an underrated point about our media... remember how much the media was harping on the blue after starting 1 and 15 (I don't remember, it was a bad record) at IGF... yet they go on a 10-3 run and no one says anything  

    My guess is when Brandon Alexander is healthy: Alexander - Walker - Loffler - Health - Randle looks pretty formidable...

    yes but I believe he was also the only guy to pick Hamilton last week... :D

    Unfortunately, no one says anything because this just isn't true. Before last night's game, the Bombers were 6-7 in their last 13 games at IGF. Now, are they playing much better at home lately? Yes. After the win, they are 3-1 this season and 7-3 in their last 10 games here. I hope this continues, and if it does, I'm sure most of the media will mention how much better the team is playing. Except maybe for Wiecek, as it goes against his narrative. Just like the 30,554 LOUD fans at the game last night go against his narrative of people staying away because of O'Shea!

    I also have to say that I agree that Alexander - Walker - Loffler - Heath - Randle looks pretty formidable. And Randle is an absolute beast out there right now!

  19. Tim Burke's Defence ... where have we seen this before?

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    To those who want objectivity, here are some defensive stats by rank in the league from two seasons:

    Season 1:

    1st in fewest 1st downs allowed

    1st in total yards against

    3rd in rushing yards against

    1st in passing yards against

    1st in yards allowed per pass

    1st in fewest passes against

    1st in interceptions

    3rd in points allowed

    1st in sacks

     

    Season 2:

    6th in yards allowed

    6th in rushing yards allowed

    8th in yards allowed per pass

    6th in yards passing allowed (with fewest pass attempts against)

    8th in interceptions

    7th in points allowed

    8th in passing tds allowed

    (and to show that I'm not just cherry picking all of the worst stats, 1st in yards allowed per rush, 4th in % completed passing, 3rd in passing 1st downs allowed)

     

    As I'm sure you can tell where this is going, Season 1 is Bombers 2011 season, Season 2 is Bombers 2012 season. Both with Burke as D-coordinator and pretty much the same starting defence! So, either all of the players got worse, Burke lost it as a coordinator, or most likely, both. He can't complain about the players there. But he sure complained about the offence and how he didn't know much about offence as a head coach, but never addressed why the defence all of a sudden took a huge downturn, even though that's his supposed area of expertise. Add in the fact that his defences and team (when HC) have been completely undisciplined, then, yes, we can say that he is not necessarily a good d coordinator anymore. Do I expect the Argos to play like that the whole season? No. Do I expect them to be good? Based on the last couple of years of Burke's D, no.

     

    As for continuing to "pick" on him, well, since last year was one of the worst Bombers seasons in history, and since I had way more fun last night than I had during ANY game last year (I went to every home game last year), and since he opened his mouth again this week and didn't take any responsibility for the atrocity that was last year, then as fans, we have every right to complain about him and that he is one of the, if not the worst coaches in our team's history.

     

    Rant over (even though I know this was directed at only a couple of people)

  20. Blue Thoughts With Bomberninja

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    Well, after years of reading other forums, trying to join other forums, and never being able to sign into other forums (was I being discriminated against because I'm ginger? Yes, I believe so ;) ) I finally get to make my first post! I want to post my thoughts on games throughout the year, but I also don't want to take away from other people's game recap posts. I love reading Do or Die's Odds & Sods!

     

    I want to give my thoughts on the good and bad and suggestions and then get other people's views as well. I don't proclaim to know everything, so if you don't agree with something I say, tell me why.

     

    So here goes...

     

    Unfortunately I did not spend much time watching the game last night, so most of my post will be on my first impressions of IGF, but with some thoughts on the game in there as well.

     

    Hits:

    IG Field is AMAZING! I loved my seats, in the upper deck. Great views of the field. We are slightly higher in the upper deck than we were in Section S at CanadInns, but we are most definitely closer to the field. There was a bit of obstruction in a raised metal railing at the bottom of the stairs, but moving your head will solve any problem with that. I can see people having complaints about the plexiglass, as it would distort your view, but the railings are definitely needed as when I was walking up for the first time, I saw someone almost fall over carrying a drink. If the railing wasn't so high, he would have tumbled right over!

     

    The walk up to the stadium was very nice... I love the giant gate signs at each gate! Plus they provide a good reference point for meeting up with people before or after the game at a stadium that I am unfamiliar with.

     

    The video screens are clear and large. I found myself watching more of the game on them than the field. Although that will change come the regular season.

     

    It was great catching up with people in the section that we sat with at CanadInns. Although there were a few problems with getting tickets together, it worked out quite well!

     

    Took a walk around the whole stadium. Very nice. Great atmosphere! As with any stadium, the concourses were a bit crowded at times. But what can you do about that? I think I've been to one stadium/arena in my life that I didn't find the concourses crowded and lineups at the concessions.

     

    As for the game itself, I missed the first half (see Misses), so can't say anything about that. In the second half, I thought Goltz didn't look horrible at times, but never looked great. Held on to the ball a little long at times. The missed field goal return was great, but I was in the concourse getting beer at the time. Fortunately, the big screen tvs worked like a charm and I didn't miss it completely! Cameron's fg were the only points I saw. Good on him! I also liked what I saw out of Etienne. A couple of nice catches!

     

    Misses:

    The traffic. Yup, I know, some people had fine experiences, and some didn't. Mine was awful. Took 2 and a half hours to get to the stadium. Went down the Perimeter only to get stuck in traffic because of the accident. Had to turn down St. Mary's to pick up a friend. Went to Bishop for the rest of the way. Spent an hour trying to turn onto Chancellor Matheson from Pembina. I know it won't always be like that, and I know part of it was my own fault for picking the wrong ways to go. But nobody should ever spend 2 and a half hours in traffic! So we didn't get to the game until 2 minutes left in the first half and I didn't get to my seats until half-time. Leaving was much better, but to cut down on the time, I had to escape the traffic and go down Kings Drive. The only slowdown after that was construction on Pembina at the Perimeter, but getting home was reasonable. I'm happy that the home opener is an 8pm start, so there will be more time to get there. But I do hope they make some changes to help ease the traffic flow.

     

    Prices at the stadium. Expected increases in prices. I was pleasantly surprised that I could get a beer for $7. I don't drink much so spending $20 in a game is fine with me. The food prices were out of my price range. $9 for a mini pizza? No thanks. $10 for a specialty sausage? Don't think so. I didn't see much else so I can't comment on it, and I may find something I enjoy for a reasonable price, but just not last night.

     

    The Bombers defense. Chase Clement. Neither were impressive. Am I worried? Not really. It's still only the first preseason game. Ask me again 3 or 4 games into the season and if it's the same, then I'll start to get worried.

     

    Overall, it was a nice (albeit too short) night at the stadium. Some things to improve upon, but I am sure (or at least hope) that things will get better on the misses side. Can't wait for the home opener on the 27th!!

     

     

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