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I don't even think they'll fire Crowton, most likely situation is they'll just take away the play calling.

but bottom line you gotta put asses in the seats or you don't get the expected revenue.

at least our backup qbs aren't as bad as montreals.... low bar?

teams that give their fans nothing to cheer about don't get as many asses in seats.

this game is LOL worthy. Riders are not sharp at all, but the als are just brutal. Calvillo and Bourke hurt too ain't making it any better for them.

Poblah was over rated by every GM in the league. Hell the argos woulda brought him to camp as an american before his eligibility as a NI was clarified.

I noticed Poblah a grand total of two times last night, once was an absolutely unforgivable drop, the other time he was absolutely blown up by a block on an INT return. If Poblah was cut would anyone care? Has he done anything in the last 2 years that is a positive contribution to the team?

but there are things Goltz can do passing that Hall can't. I've seen Goltz thread some passes into tight spaces that Hall just doesn't have the arm strength to do. They're different qbs for sure and I dunno if Goltz is going to develop into something good or not, but you are entirely too hard on the kid and too easy on Hall. Hall did some good things and some bad things, same as Goltz. There isn't a lot to choose between the two in my mind and it comes down to what kind of qb you want out there.

I just think that coaches are there to make players better and our coaches aren't doing it.

iso with more "everything Joe Mack has done is terrible" attitude. You are simply too anti-Mack to be taken seriously at this point. You are seriously understating how bad this team has been under Burke. Lapo gets fired and in the easiest game in the history of sports to get a team fired up to play the team rolled over and died. They did the same thing 2 weeks later in Calgary. Burke is not inspiring anyone on that team to be better, lots of guys have regressed since he took over. He is Jim Daley 2.0 as a head coach.

applicable to Hall but not Goltz? come on, you are very anti-Goltz for whatever reason, you are making him sound a lot worse than he actually was. Is it cause Mack brought in Goltz and in your mind everything Mack has ever done has been the worst thing in the world?

I'd trade anyone on the team for Ray, too bad there's only one guy ******** enough to ever actually trade Ray.

Denmark was the consensus runner up for rookie of the year in his first season, Matthews was the rookie of the year, you expect me to believe these guys just lost their talent? Seems more like the coaching is so bad it's causing them to regress. This team really lacks any sort of direction, there is no clarity in what kind of team they are trying to be, that all comes from coaching. Get a proper head coach in there and things will look a LOT different.

Talent isn't the big issue here. There is a definite change in how competitive the players were going from Lapo to Burke. Burke is looking more and more Daley-like with each passing week. TIme to dump him and Crowton and go forward. I don't even care right now. That loss to Hamilton ended the season, it's done let's keep blowing it up. Wanted to like Burke because he's such a good defensive coordinator and love the candidness he speaks to the media with but good lord he is a dud at head coach.

yeah cause Hall never missed a throw at all... you gotta stop this thing you're doing where you make Goltz accuracy sound worse than it is. I'd give Hall more time too cause I do like the type of qb he seems to be, but let's not go overboard on anything here.

I didn't mind Halls first half of the game and I'd give him another chance but I really don't know that he's any better than Goltz at this point. The mobility that Goltz brings seems to be something that this offense desperately needs otherwise teams are too easily able to just bring pressure and disrupt the whole thing.

These coaches can all get the **** out right now. So tired of watching this team just roll over and die. The only guy who showed any kind of intensity is Terrence Edwards. Good on him for the game he played cause he did everything he possibly could to help out a new qb. Damned shame no one else has the same kind of competitiveness he has. This team just won't play for Burke. Saw it last season when he took over. Lapo wasn't good either but at least the players played hard for him.

you didn't need hind sight to know what a mistake it was

please let this stick

cause it tastes ******* awesome.Or are you one of those people who thinks that beer is only for getting drunk on?

Yeah the oatmeal porter was a mill st. thing, was real good, I always pass over that stuff when I'm wandering through the liquor store, maybe I'll have to actually pick some up some time. Never seen Hop City but I will keep an eye out. There's a few well stocked beer coolers in a couple liquor stores nearby.

I actually found the white owl to be lacking in that distinct rye flavour.

yeah steamwhistle and mill st. show up in Calgary at least, fairly easy to come across as well. I know I tried Steamwhistle at beerfest one year and I am pretty sure I've tried mill st. stuff but can't quite place it. I wanna say some type of oatmeal porter? does that sound right?

that funny taste is flavour.

seriously football and beer just make the other so much better.