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I am 100% sold on O'Shea as head coach. The attitude of the team is a complete 180 from last year and it's led to not only wins but enjoyable games. Even if they'd lost last night the way they fought back was impressive and much better to see than the rolling over and dying Tim Burke era.

WHAT!??!?! No way it's the Bombers adding in a higher pick, if anything the Als need to add a first round pick to even it out maybe a 2nd if they hold firm.

It's the high risk high reward thing, but they were getting exposed with the risks and thankfully they had the sense to calm down a bit and they stopped getting burned.

If the Bombers coaches are perfectly fine with letting Turner be home with his wife and newborn why in gods name is anyone on this site bitching about it? If the Bombers had lost last night it wouldn't have been because they were missing Bryant Turner.

In the first Q, we had crazy DL rush/blitz schemes and left the flats open for Walker to exploit or if we didn't stop him in the backfield, run for 10-15 yards... classic Etch. After that didn't work, he retreated to a more CFL zone D. We sent four DL almost all game with the occasional safety or LB blitz. Seemed like Wild (for the most part) took a lot more of a 'contain' role than 'all or nothing' pressure. I think he gambled hard on getting to Burris in the 1st Q, it didn't work and, thankfully, he recognized that. Later in the game, he started getting a bit Etch again but by that time, the D was rolling and Walker was off his game. Just my opinion of course... haven't rewatched the game... not that I can thanks to TSN... Yeah from what I could see on TV the first quarter they were going all or nothing and when they got burned they seemed to tone it down a lot and make sure there were guys in position to cover the plays to the outsides. It really is classic Etch. Went all in leaving lots of room underneath and with Walker being a speedy guy you give him room he can run. They changed things up so he didn't have as much room and predictably he started getting stopped a lot more.

To me it looked like Grigsby knew where to go to pick up the blocks, he just didn't commit to it. Getting in the way isn't good enough at this level, gotta actually get a good piece of the guy and even if you get beaten at least give the qb that extra second. That's something Charlie Roberts could do. If he decided to block someone he'd throw his body at him and at least slow him down a bit.

ahh the classic case of a guy who knows a little bit about football making big claims about observations that are so far off the mark it's almost comical but then defending them to the death even though everyone else sees how ridiculous it is. Good times. I mean really, guy thinks Stegall was used as a deep threat... ridiculous, Stegall was used all over the field... much like they used Nick Moore last night.

Willy took a real beating on the field though, and for a while it looked like his hand injury might derail the whole thing, can you blame fans for wanting to see the qb that is finally putting an offense worth watching on the field be protected better?

I think Kelly is just limited in his ability to get open when he's not one on one... however that being said, when you're 6'5 and you run down the field you're always open, and with Willy showing a great touch on his deep ball and able to drop it right where it needs to be there's room for a tall receiver who has good hands.

I also thought of walk ups as tickets sold the day of the game anyway not people who just showed up to the stadium at game time. Who does that in this day and age when you can buy a ticket online and have it on your phone?

They didn't even wait until halftime, they were making adjustments all the time. That's the biggest key. They recognized they were getting killed and fixed that ****.

the one call where they flagged the bomber for pushing the player out of bounds there was a blatant hold not called on the bombers DE, really pissed me off there and I did start to get the feeling too that the refs were being a bit more lenient towards the newbies. It's important they're competitive don't ya know.

not to mention no td passes, what a useless ******* bum. Just a turnover machine who can't get the ball into the endzone.

Bottom line our qb looks good when he's kept clean so it should be the most important thing on the field right now is keeping that guy clean. There was the one play where Grigsby actually picked up his man well.... but the guy just brushed him aside and continued on through to willy like Grigsby wasn't even there. Gotta at least slow the guy down.

he nearly got WIlly killed, yes we can justify it.

Good riddance. Enough of the spoiled divas who think they're better than the team.

I don't want to confuse talent with heart. Right now, I'd say thanks to O'Shea and co. on the coaching side, we've got brains and heart. That goes a long way in football. Talent-wise, I wouldn't say we're much better than Ottawa. Where we'll beat em is if we can out think them and out-work them. The key will be getting Hank to turn into Frank, which is all about getting through their O-Line and containing Hank so he can't beat us with his legs. I think you underestimate the players we have defensively. There are a lot of good talented players on this defense. Particularly in the secondary. When I look at the receivers Ottawa is trotting out I give an edge to our secondary without hesitation.

I think based on the preseason games and game 1 that this shouldn't really be a concern. Willy showed very good ability to see the field and make the right throws, I don't see Ottawa doing anything that really confuses him. The D is another matter but I suspect that they'll simply outmatch Ottawa because let's be completely honest here, they don't have a lot of talent outside of Burris.

Archer and Arrested development, the two most over rated shows in history. Not surprising because it seems a lot of the same people are involved. They're mildly amusing shows at best but not worth nearly the hype they get. I maintain that the people who rave about those shows are people who are desperately looking for something to like that isn't mainstream.

and chevon walker isn't likely to take much pressure off of him either. Oh sure he'll bust a big play here and there but in terms of getting consistency in the running game, not going to happen.

Hipster show...one of those things that nobody actually watches, but is a critical darling. But I agree...Vergara's cans should be in every thread. First you spit on the comic book nerds, now you're spitting on MF (not my favorite show out there but still good for a laugh). Please explain to us in great detail why you are so much better then all of us. I'll be waiting for your response in... He just has a real low tolerance for things he doesn't like. But he is right about the single camera stuff, really not a fan of it in general.

such an argo homer.... But I have to ask, is he basically the Argos top RB this year? Or is Steele in the mix and they'll use both guys?

yeah these Thursday night games are bullshit. I hope they realize that they don't work for fans in the stands either and get some weekend games for a change. The Cottage excuse is nonsense.

I would suspect that the TOP stats are the reason for that. Have the ball more you have more chances to go 2 and out.

It's that show that Al Bundy is on, except he's old and not Al Bundy