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I will go with Whitaker

Let's just worry about being 1-0 this week. Yes I am drinking the MOS koolaid

The Ottawa game was even worse but yeah it's sickening really. I knew in preseason that this years team would be different than last years. There is no quit in this team and it is the single biggest thing that was missing last year.

No it really doesn't. It's just crap being thrown against the wall.

You think the stamps were in danger of losing to the ticats even with Collaros? The way the Stamps easily handled the argos with all those guys missing I don't give the tabbies much chance here.

I said it all last year and lots of people didn't want to listen but if you get better coaches who can bring the right attitude to a team you are way further ahead. That was Joe Macks single biggest failing as a GM, he hired 2 duds at head coach.

Well ultimately I think it comes down to which qb makes less mistakes... but you probably just said as much in a different way.

The only surprise is that he was actually brought back this year. He doesn't really do anything well enough to justify being anything more than a backup and we seem to have guys who can do that job better.

The bend but don't break is working so far, let's hope it continues.

Game is already over. It will be closer than you might think. Stamps tend to take walkover games like this not very seriously. Still, pencil in a Calgary win. Last year, based on the standings us and Edmonton were the walk overs. Calgary had a combined score of 161-94 and a 5-0 record. In 2012 Winnipeg and Hamilton had six wins. Edmonton had seven. Calgary had a combined score of 231-139 and a record of 7-0. What part of that is taking walkover games not seriously? Classic Nate, spew a lot of bullshit and hope no one questions it. And if it does get questioned just pretend it never happened.

Never write off a team who has a defense that is generating as many turnovers as the esks D is.

It's usually really hot during stampede with storms in the evenings... but yeah been super hot these past few days. Shame I was stuck working. Finally get summer and I work through it. Hope it lasts until I'm done.

But they had been getting 6 yards a carry from Allen... But in Toronto they stopped running the ball for some reason trying to let Durant win it all, they did the same against BC as well, just totally stopped running the ball with predictable results. It's not that the Riders can't run the ball this year, it's that they aren't running the ball.

Well what if the Riders are just playing that badly right now? I mean they beat Hamilton in an ass ugly game in a torrential downpour and have been shown to be a pretty weak offense two weeks in a row, not to mention that BC was 0-3 previous to playing said rider team whereas the Argos have been thumped twice and the only game they looked good was against the Riders. It's still early obviously but something stinks in riderville to my eyes after 3 weeks. BC was 0-2 prior to the game yesterday. yeah my bad, with all the "could they go 0-3" talk my brain was stuck on that number.

The old mute button was invented just for Rod Black.

When you look at the win-loss record of teams that win the turnover battle I think it becomes clear there is a lot of truth to that. I would expect the overall level of most teams in the league to be close enough that it's the big momentum turning plays that make all the difference. An interception for a touchdown, a blocked punt, a kick return TD, these are all huge plays that flip a game around.

Well what if the Riders are just playing that badly right now? I mean they beat Hamilton in an ass ugly game in a torrential downpour and have been shown to be a pretty weak offense two weeks in a row, not to mention that BC was 0-3 previous to playing said rider team whereas the Argos have been thumped twice and the only game they looked good was against the Riders. It's still early obviously but something stinks in riderville to my eyes after 3 weeks.

Or try losing a game we should have won like I did as a head coach in the playoffs a decade ago. I failed to manage the clock better than I could have in the final 2 minutes. We were ahead by 4 points in the Calgary Bantam Semi Finals in 2005 in the final minute or so of the 4th quarter. I was so caught up in the game calling offensive plays that I never told our qb to watch the clock & take every second off before snapping the ball. On third down, we failed to get a first down, left the other team with 25 seconds on the clock from their 5 yard line & two long pass plays later they're in the end zone going to the league final & we're going home. Unbelievable. Parents blamed the DC for the loss & were quite vocal in their displeasure after the game & at our AGM a few months later. I told my defensive coordinator after the game that the loss was on me for not burning those 25 seconds after the ref blew the play in when we had the ball. And I said it again to the idiot parents over the mic that were still bitching about it 4 months later. It's always easy sitting in front of a television yelling, "What's he doing???" It's quite another being on the sidelines or on the field in the heat of the moment as a player, coach or ref. There's pressure to win even at the community level in football. In any team sport. We screw up sometimes. God forbid they blame the players who failed to make a play on defence to stop them. I needed to take the heat for this one as head coach. If I had done my job & managed the play clock his defense never would have been on the field as time would have expired. That's all well and good but sports still ultimately come down to the guys on the field making more plays than the other team.I understand why you feel the need to take the blame on yourself, that's coaching 101 but in the end it's the players that win and lose games. It reveals a lot about the character of the parents when they look for people to blame other than their own kids who got beat. Make a stop on defence it doesn't matter about the clock or whatever the defensive coordinator calls. People need to learn how to deal with losing better.

Grigsby and Allen letting people down en masse.

That's just Etch being Etch. Ottawa did the same things with Walker in the first quarter as well.

Or try losing a game we should have won like I did as a head coach in the playoffs a decade ago. I failed to manage the clock better than I could have in the final 2 minutes. We were ahead by 4 points in the Calgary Bantam Semi Finals in 2005 in the final minute or so of the 4th quarter. I was so caught up in the game calling offensive plays that I never told our qb to watch the clock & take every second off before snapping the ball. On third down, we failed to get a first down, left the other team with 25 seconds on the clock from their 5 yard line & two long pass plays later they're in the end zone going to the league final & we're going home. Unbelievable. Parents blamed the DC for the loss & were quite vocal in their displeasure after the game & at our AGM a few months later. I told my defensive coordinator after the game that the loss was on me for not burning those 25 seconds after the ref blew the play in when we had the ball. And I said it again to the idiot parents over the mic that were still bitching about it 4 months later. It's always easy sitting in front of a television yelling, "What's he doing???" It's quite another being on the sidelines or on the field in the heat of the moment as a player, coach or ref. There's pressure to win even at the community level in football. In any team sport. We screw up sometimes. God forbid they blame the players who failed to make a play on defence to stop them.

It's craziness. The last 2 weeks the running game was the one facet of the Riders offense that was actually working and Chamblin in some fit of stupidity decides he's going to make an example of his running backs for a fumble and it craters his offense. Like they expect Durant to be Ricky Ray. Durant is a good qb but he's no Ricky Ray, he needs that help from the running game like most qbs do. The Riders stop dicking around like that they'll be a better team for it. I think perhaps that championship got to their heads.

He didn't even really want the job but someone had to do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3JzbWVDzac

and they had 792 yards total offense... I can't even wrap my head around stats like that.