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That's one of those inbetween calls I think. If he catches the ball there's no problems with the hit but there was probably enough time between dropping the pass and when washington hit him that it was late... of course Washington was committed to the hit and he didn't even check to see if it was caught or not.

This. Especially the stutter steps. Just run straight ahead. You don't need to be dropping your shoulder to fake out a defender that is 5 yards away from you. I was done with Grigsby on one of his bigger runs... he has all kinds of room and decided to run straight into the ass of one of his blockers.. WTF? And he does it all the time he likes to run into people for some reason. Yeah he's got plenty of yards but he just can't make people miss and if there's a guy to run into he will find a way to do it. That ball he volleyed up to Willis for 7 points was disgusting too.

No I don't think the OL was the biggest problem. Yeah they had some bad moments but the biggest problem by far were the receivers. There were times Willy had plenty of time to get the ball out and kept looking and looking and looking but no targets. Everything save for a couple passes were to check down options. And when he did get the ball away the receivers were as likely to drop it as they were to catch it. Grigsby served up 7 points failing to catch a pretty straight forward pass but instead he volleyed it up right to Willis who of course has an easy run into the endzone.

Not to mention we came off a 3 win season last year that was the absolute shittiest season of Bomber football I have ever seen. All these Thursday night games it's going to take time to get the casuals back. You can even see in the chat room that people don't quite believe that this team is different yet.

Yeah that was the final straw for me too. Mitch and Bob were being very kind in their comments after the Montreal game despite what a ****-show it was, and on comes Kelly and says "I've been listening to all of the bullshit you guys have been sayin' and I'm pissed off" - on live radio. It was the most non-classy, stupid things I've ever heard from a professional coach. Just unbelievable. Yeah there was no way the CJOB guys were going to be able to polish that turd and they rightly brought up problems they saw and Kelly's Ego wouldn't allow any criticism so he flipped out on the best CFL broadcaster in the country. Just despicable.

nothing to do with suitor. CB especially in man coverage are said to be on a island by them selves. Hence Chris Randle is out there on #RandleIsland , the NFL has the original island with RevisIsland. Apparently he doesn't listen... I said you know how Suitor always brings up the CB being on an Island? To the point of being annoying about it?

To me there is a big difference between a team telling a player to suck it up and play and a player deciding to play if they aren't feeling 100%. I can't see Bruce having been told to play if he was feeling effects, I can see him wanting to play. In my opinion that makes all the difference in the world. Concussion awareness is too high these days for teams to risk their players.

Had a quick look at what some esks fans were saying leading up to the game, quite a lot of arrogance there, let's put them in their place.

because Nate

That handled internally interview was the best thing Kelly did as a coach. I applaud him for hammering home to the media that he wasn't talking about it. They could have asked another question but instead they kept going back to the same thing when there was no comment forthcoming. It was the other stuff that Kelly lost me on. His raping of the NI depth and selling off the NI futures, the arrogance to not admit that his offense was broken and didn't work in the modern CFL, the combative approach with fans, guy could have been a good coach but he let his ego get in the way.

So, let's say Bruce wins & gets $5 million in damages that's a hit of over half a mill per team. If it's upwards of $10 to $20 mill, you do the math. More? The floodgates will open. Keep laughin', guys. I'm no lawyer but I would think that unless he was forced onto the field he doesn't really have a leg to stand on. I would think it's on him for taking the risk himself.

Attention whores gonna ***** for attention.

Agree, like Dunigan dislike Miller but its all better than Rod Black. That is the lowest of the low bars to set...

I've long felt that the penalty for PI was too severe. Most other penalties are 5-10 yards, with "major infractions" at 15, where in theory the risk of injury is greater. PI, which we all know can be subjective, can be 40+ yards, which seems disproportionately high. Compare this to holding at 10 yds, and I have trouble justifing the difference. People claim that if wasn't for the PI, they could have scored a TD, but my answer is that without the hold, there could have been a 15 yd sack, which also would have been a loss of down, so the penalty doesn't necessarily make up for the play/foul. At the professional level, it is one of the very few "unrestricted" penalties, meaning that instead of going "half the distance" to the goal line, it goes all the way down to the one yard line for a foul in the endzone. Again, this seem disproportionately high. I'd suggest that PI be made 10 yards and an automatic first down (restricted to half the distance when close to goal line) for most of the calls, but perhaps allow the officials to call a "flagerant PI" with the current penalties for the worst occurances. The officials already have the same discretion when it comes to "roughing" calls, there is the garden variety "unnecessary roughness" which is 15 yds (officials refer to this as "UR") but they can also call "rough play" (aka "RP") which is 25 yds and often an ejection. ("RP" in amateur ball is an automatic ejection, and as of 2009, all roughing calls became unrestricted, meaning that the ball can go down to the 1 yd line, rather than 1/2 the distance) I'd worry that dbs would simply take the penalty on every pass over 10 yards if they were getting beaten if you made that change. I think adding the judgement call opens up too much of a gray area where there's is a difference between what is flagrant and what isn't. To me the key is still to get some consistency from the refs. We don't even see that now with the review but if they can ever get that it will be a nice change. I'd also like to see holding get called more often, so many times it's let go for no reason.

Love Dunigan on colour, hate Gord Miller on play by play. If Miller would stop the bullshit trying to add his own colour commentary and just stick to play by play he'd be fine but no he's gotta inject his stupid ******* stories. "Hey Matt, who was the strongest arm you remember in the CFL? NO!!!!! You're wrong! It was this guy that I watched back in nineteendickety two!"

Denmark had some issues catching with a guy on him but I don't know that we can say he's not doing his job. He's drawn more than a couple pass interference calls, the catches will come, especially I think if Moore starts to draw more attention.

I just can't figure out why the stamps would let the guy go like that... yeah they're a deep team but the way he's played he would make any team better.

Looks new faces in that secondary, that shouldn't really be a surprise, plus they've played two of the best teams in the league already in Calgary and Winnipeg, that will skew the stats.

Hamilton 2014 = Blue Bombers 2012. At least Lapo was somewhat likeable as a coach. I still think he shouldn't have been fired. The only reason you say that is because of how awful Burke was. They did what they have done so many times in the past 20 years, they fired a coach and hired someone worse to replace him. Ritchie to Daley, Berry to Kelly, Lapo to Burke... Let's not fire O'Shea at the first misstep and maybe we can end that damned drought that makes everyone so crazy.

I think the Bombers o-line woes are a bit over stated. They may not be the best group but they are capable of doing an adequate job. Teams in the CFL are capable of getting pressure through blitzes, our line fared better than BCs did against that same montreal team.

Now that's what I call supporting your pick. sp?

There are a lot of players who are skilled enough but lack a certain element to translate that to the NHL, if they want to continue to play hockey the KHL pays the best. Usually it's the guys with hands but no speed that end up there. Of course there is competition, a lot of north americans like to play in the swiss league because the lifestyle is superior but if they're looking to be paid the best I think the KHL is where it's at.

Because people have accepted that the defense is what it is. It's got vulnerabilities as well as big play capability. They gave up yardage, but made big plays when it counted so it's really the best we can hope for.

Those are: Kovalchuk, Radulov, S.Kostitsyn and Burmistrov. They'll be exceptions as a 'particularly valuable' for the league (2/2) — Igor Eronko (@IgorEronko) July 15, 2014 I would think the criteria is "Could be playing in the NHL but chose to come here and are Russian" Or close enough to Russian in Kostitsyns case.

Sask and especially BC sans Lulay really don't scare me. Saskatchewan is one of those teams that could be stronger later in the season than they are now. They're in the process of trying to break some new people into spots they had pretty good players in last year, you would expect some of their recruits to improve as the year goes on right? And if Chamblins stops being a fool with his running game they'll be a lot better off. They were making progress in both games the last 2 weeks when they were running the ball but then they stopped because of a fumble and it all went to hell on them.