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It's rare but there have been multiple players in other sports who have won MVP on a team with a losing record (mainly baseball but has happened in the NBA as well). Most recent example was A-Rod in 2003 with Texas despite being 20 games below .500 (71-91). Cal Ripken Jr and Andre Dawson also did it a few years apart from each other in the late 80's/early 90's.

I think I watched the entire video of behind the draft and Walters definitely, and 100%, has final say. I didn't even hear MOS say a word the whole time until Walters had decided. You guys are really reaching now. I am sure that MOS said yea we don't need Kenny Lawler. 🤣 Post Rigmaiden it has not been good.

So this was discussed in the Labour Day thread but MOP, to me Arbuckle, Mitchell, Adams and even Rourke should be ahead of Harris. Harris is the QB on the best team but the others have been more outstanding. I also think Harris may win because the media will hype him like they did Milligan.

It is how it works in sports tho. The MOP is never on a team with a losing record. Like ever.

No, that's not how it works. MOP not MVP.

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That’s a crazy stat. Might be a moot point though, as I think the Argos finish the season at least 9-9.

I think we’re actually somewhere in between. I agree we’re not ‘04 bad, I kinda forgot how bad we really were that year. The Kenton Keith game being at home really sucked.

Huh? That’s a receivers roll. They go a get a ball that is thrown to them if it’s possible knowing full well they could take a hit or fall in an awkward position etc. sorry but when 300 pound monsters are on your tail you throw the ball, especially if it’s a guy like Schoen who has proven he can make the circus catches.

I'm not trying to be a jerk but how can you make this claim? There are nine teams in the league each with their own team of MDs, physios, trainers, etc. There is no way that a fan (you, me, all the folks on this board) can know the competence of the personnel on the Bombers "med team", let alone the other eight teams. I don't know if Schoen re-injured the same leg yesterday but I do know from photos circulated here that he was wearing a pretty heavy brace during the practices leading up to the game. Oops, I posted this before reading some of the other comments on this particular post.

If hes hurt again this time, there was very little contact which is scary in and of itself

I think they need to try Eli at centre and 100% insert an American at one of the guard spots. That's a far greater concern than any issues at receiver. ZC clearly has some good football left in him, but he needs support. The OL that played yesterday, won't stand a chance against the Stamps' pass rush.

Schoen was hurt late in 23, early in 24 and once, possibly twice in 25. Blame the medical staff or blame bad luck but chances are he's never the same player again. Be honest, would you want to pay him $175,000 for next year?

Schoen would not keep getting hurt - if the QB would stop throwing passes where the receiver is about to be demolished - nor if the OC was smart - and made plays that actually gave them opportunities to be open...

I like the guy but if Schoen is injured again we replace him with Wilson and move on. His salary could be used in FA next year to bolster both lines or our defensive backfield.

It's crazy to think that we lost to the Stamps by just 1 point I don't think there's much doubt that the Stamps will be in the West final. Adams can put up a subpar performance and they still win handily Trevor Harris will not stand a chance against their pass rush. In fact, ZC might actually do better

Picks this week need to be in by Friday @ 6:30 PM Standings below:

I feel like the crossover is our best chance at this point

Know what was more critical in our 2 Grey cup wins? Players like Thomas and kramdi were depth, not key starters. Lost a lot of Canadian talent and depth since 2019.

Stamps consistently get pressure on the qb essentially rushing only 4

Stamps have one heck of a front 7, not sure why they need Bighill.

Something else that is disturbing is the amount of players that we signed coming off of injuries. Schoen Vaughters Makonzo Hagarty, and now Moore. I get it that they are likely cap freindly but its a high risk that we are now paying for.

Eh I don’t think we’re nearly as bad as 2004. 2003 is a better comparison. Kenton Keith still haunts my dreams from that year.