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Why the **** would there be. Let’s actually be honest and not hardcore mark fans, they are selling out every game, they are the cash cow and basically the league standard as much as they pretend Regina is. Football in the end whether ppl want to admit or not is the business. The bottom line isn’t really winning the grey cup. I mean that’s the goal but the ultimate goal is to be the cash cow if you winning or losing. Ppl gonna stop going to games in the thousands all of a sudden. Doubtful. They have created an environment that is basically like a giant social with a football game being played. If I’m wade I’m disappointed and I would demand changes to the on field product but I’m not sure if I’m not inclined to give Walters and O’Shea another shot since if we really being honest, they probably both deserve it. If they want the chance next season to retool I give them that chance. I talk to both individually to get their opinions on who needs to stay and who needs to go, see how in tune they really are. Go from there. If they on the same page and agree changes needed and some guys need to be let go they can both get a chance to retool. If not and they both not In agreement they both go. I’d need my gm and coach on the same page and if they aren’t, they both can go. Who knows what’s up with Kyle and O’Shea. Osh can’t play the talent if it ain’t there and as much as some pretend ,none of these guys who were sitting on the pr and now rostered have really made a difference. There’s no game breakers there. I like person. I like Woodby. Allen is ok. But none are really difference makers.

Griffin hurt = not good. He’s been pretty solid.

Streveler completed 5 passes in the first half last game. 2 were to Brady. 1 was on a play Hamilton wasn’t really ready for. The OC ain’t great but I mean Streveler can’t throw a ball so what you expect really. Dude was never throwing for 300. He was 200 or less really. His entire cfl career. His high is 304 in a game and that was in 2018 or 19. Since then he’s averaged well under 200 yards passing per game. While I agree the OC ain’t helping, the argument could be made we win the game last week if Streveler just hands the ball off all game.

Is it even possible to have a collaboration without cooperation?

MOS 2025 has 2004 Dave Ritchie vibes.

Oshea holding on to guys based on performances 6 years ago? Story checks out.

I've seen videos of that in the facebook reels.....they should do Rocky Horror Picture Show next

https://3downnation.com/2025/09/16/mike-oshea-defends-chris-streveler-with-zach-collaros-limited-in-blue-bombers-practice/ this is the problem with O’Shea he’s literally talking about Strevelers play with the Bombers 6 years ago. We don’t have 2019 Chris Streveler on this roster. Yeah he was never a great passer, but he used to have the speed and power to be one of the most unique players in the league at the time but hes not that player anymore. Not even close.

Collaros was still a lot better than Streveler. Streveler is struggling to make passes period. We all love the guy but right now he's playing like the Temu version of Dustin Crum.

I think it speaks volumes that Kelly is still not good to go after all this time.

https://www.fox5vegas.com/video/2025/09/16/wizard-oz-las-vegas-sphere-generates-65-million-ticket-sales/

Finding a way to what exactly? No I'm watching our offense struggle, and become inept after halftime no.matter who is at qb. Collaros better than streveler. Sure but neither one is showering themselves in glory due to other offensive factors

Doesn't matter if they do what we want or not, all we're saying is, if they used their roster better they could get more out of their defensive line and improve the defense dramatically. Cfl field is too big to never pressure a qb.

for the sake of the league I was kinda hoping that the Argos would ride Arbuckle for the rest of the season and then quietly move on from the Chad. Arbuckle getting hurt messes with this plan, but yeah, you're right, upside to the Blue.

24.7 ppg in Streveler's starts, 28.1 ppg with Collaros is the games he started and finished. 5 out of the 6 with Zach we put up 26 or more, something we did once with Streveler. Collaros is not what he once was but he's better than Streveler and the offense is better with him as QB too.

He also has Parkinson's, not just dementia so he could possibly have been approved based on that diagnosis. The catch to mental health issues and MAID is that he has to choose to do it while he is still competent. If he waits too long, he won't have the capacity to choose to go through with it. Better too soon than to late is what it comes down to.

To defend the DB's knowing they've contributed their fair share to our current situation you can't cover forever like an olineman can't hold his block forever.

Agreed with lack of pressure.....no rushed passes...no disruption of the QB....all time to throw...DB's will look bad....just way it is And a couple simple changes...who know's the results but you need to try....because why do you have guys hanging around then?....but continuing to do the same thing...thats been failing...who keeps doing that? And really....can it be any worse???

Sorry Goalie, I disagree with this. The DL has been ineffective this year. The DBs had some weak links and are being corrected. There is no pressure - even nominal from the DL. You cannot win when the QB regularly gets 5 steamboats, every down, every game. But the D has not been as much of an issue as the O. Look at our second half points - and look at our number of turnovers. We need something to change - demote Hogan and give Jackson a chance. Make some changes on both sides of the ball, when able - Jake Thomas, a loyal, hard working guy does not have the stones now - he just doesn't. Vaughters and Willie are no longer every down players - good for 50%. Many of the players we brought in as free agents have not worked out, and we have had a rash of injuries - and our QB play has diminished behind an OL that is no longer effective. You cant fix this in a day...but make a few changes and try it out - why are we still running with Ayers at DL? Why are we still forcing Canadian depth into starting positions - when we have not even given our other Canadian depth an opportunity to see how they do (even at 20% reps a game). We love what the mafia has done here - we want them to succeed - but they can't be stubborn and hold fast to what is NOT working - we just want them to show some sort of flexibility.

They aren’t gonna do things the way some of you want. The d since younger took over has not been about sacks or pressure. It’s been about coverage really. Our DBs were real good the past couple of years. The DL has been bad since younger took over tho and the difference this year isn’t lack of pressure. It’s our DBs aren’t as good. Especially the cbs who give up 2 3 4 explosion plays a game. They weren’t doing that the past couple of seasons.

would love that as well...but man we gotta be realistic...as we are now...and obviously no intent to bring anyone in....that's not happening and definitely not too late....what we have...4...5 games left when Maston and Taylor stepped in and turned our season on defence? DT's and ends....bull dozing rb....easiest guys to integrate with minimal practice/time in the CFL....X receiver too

Yeah but collaros has been a successful starter in the league. Streveler has not been. Some of you keep remembering the fur coat guy but reality is he’s not a cfl starting QB. I swear if ppl actually went back and watched Streveler, he’s the same today as he was then minus the ability to run. Why ppl pretending dude was ever a successful cfl starter is wild. Then you got ppl who go on about players like Jake or Damian Jackson wasting a spot when Streveler is also cuz there’s no future there. Quit living in fantasy land. Streveler sucks. Accept it. It’s not about Zach who was won the mop award vs Streveler cuz every coach in the league takes Zach. Ppl don’t care about 5 throws from 7 years ago anymore. He’s cooked like a Christmas goose. Christ dude is so bad after 1 half ppl were calling for Wilson. If Streveler lacked a personality ppl would demand he’s cut. Cuz u take that personality away and your left with a bad QB who has never been good really.

Collaros was playing some really good football before he got hurt, considering what he had to work with. Consistently under a ton of pressure but was finding a way.

time for ground and pound offence....slide protection....moving line...pulling giiards and Tackles...we were doing that a bit in the beginning...when we actually had a winning record....but went away from it........Bring in another big import bruising back to run with BO who can catch....and pound the ball and take short to intermediate shots when defense creeps.....the deep shot here and there will be there when we set the tone Like running the veer or triple option..thats how you utilize an inferior oline in protection to be succesful...you need an athletic center tho who can move, so Hello Eli...see ya Kolo....he wouldnt be worth snot in that scheme...Eli would tho...be right up Wallace's alley right now, as well as Randolph

With how crappy the O is, those random deep shots are needed.